Why haven't extraterrestrials made their presence known?

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not an adequate answer but i am going to sleep immediately so consider your next response more carefully. i will sleep for 6 hours and i will be unavailable for another 4 hours due to commitments.

if you want to bow out, i will not make a fuss. save your face if you consider it vulnerable, and i will not follow you anywhere.

It was a JOKE!

You may want to consider keeping your day job and giving up on any ambitions of being a comedian.

Since I have no ambitions of such, you again misinterpret what was presented.
(Hint: At some point, very soon, you should post "touché"...)

The speed of light is not going to anything other than it is for a long, long time to come. Distances are too great for practical travel from one star system to another. After the original Guth explansion at the time of the Big Bang, or Beginning Burp, there is a top speed to how fast things can move.

ruveyn

Other possibility - they blew their own planet up billions of years ago and had nothing better to do anyway.

I said nothing about exceeding light speed. Maybe you responded to the wrong post. Or maybe as usual you are rigidly repeating your dogmas without really considering anything anyone has said. Your opinion is noted.

IMO, distances are not too great if you go fast enough. We've tracked Voyager for 35 years. One generation replacing another to check in now and again. A civilization capable of launching a voyager type probe at 20% of lightspeed would have already reached a star system within 7 ly and would be waiting for the signal. It's just a question of speed and time.

Believe whatever you like.

But make an extraordinary claim, and be prepared to provide extraordinary evidence to support it or face a doubting and critical response.

a. Absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt.
b. There exists no valid empirical evidence to support any claim for the existence of extraterrestrials on Earth.
: : It is reasonable to doubt the existence of extraterrestrials on Earth, and unreasonable to believe otherwise.

These are possibilities as I have said. I'm not claiming they have happened. I'm just laying out possibilities and correcting some "conventional wisdom" that such things are impossible. It doesnt appear to be impossible to me.

My comment was clearly addressing the possibility of sub-light interstellar travel without having to invoke faster than light travel and the posters belief that any interstellar travel would be forever impractical. So when I concluded, "Believe whatever you like", that was the context. The practicality of sub-light speed travel. I wasnt exhorting people around the world to kneel before Jesus, search for magic gold, join scientology or believe that aliens are actually here. You seem to have a lot of problems with context. You continually stumble when reading the posts of others in this thread. Best of Luck.

Fair enough ... I did not mean to imply otherwise.


Generation ships have long been a mainstay of Science-Fiction. Speculation is alright, as long as it's clearly labelled as such, so as not to be confused with an actual claim.


Hello! I'm an Aspie! Without explicit declarations, speculations and out-of-context humor seem to elude me. This is why I earned a degree and took up a career in Electrical Engineering. Anything not related to my work is easy to spot and ignore while at work. For instance, if I'm discussing the transfer function of a lambda diode, and someone mentions how his wife has a negative attitude and is resistant to new ideas, I know that what he said is unrelated to work and therefor unimportant.

It is easy for me to assume that anything outside work that is included in a general discussion is somehow relevant to that discussion unless stated otherwise. This is why I don't socialize much.

It would help greatly if people would preface their claims with phrases like, "In my opinion..." or "I believe..." or "It seems like..." or even "The following is only speculation".

If not, then they should expect me and other Aspies like me to assume the literal meaning of their statements, and learn to live with it. Otherwise, they seem to have a problem with tolerance of Aspie-like behavior.

I find this quite common with people who are very religious.

Perhaps the word "religious" itself could be a clue that something non-sequitur is about to be discussed or mentioned.

I don't really believe aliens have visited Earth anymore. I used to but I think I was just delusional, my grandmother is crazy and there's never been decent evidence aliens have ever been here. No more evidence than there is for angels, demons or speaking in tongues.

But ... I think there's probably life on other planets, more intelligent than us. Somewhere. Maybe not in this galaxy. But the Universe is so large and it seems unlikely that we're the most complex things in it.

They haven't made their presence known for a very simple reason: They plan to invade. If that isn't a better reason for them to keep their presence secret, IDK what is.

Their home planet orbited a star at the center of the galaxy in Sagittarius A where there lies a supermassive black hole of several million solar masses. In 2011 this black hole flared up X-ray wise as astronomers observed their star wandering too close. Now this black hole is being orbited by several million planetoid objects including their home planet which will finally be torn apart and swallowed up come December 21, 2012. They found Earth much the same way terrestrial astronomers find distant planets: Through gravitational interferometry. One of their probes is lurking somewhere in our Solar System and makes occasional visits to Earth. The most well known was over Belgium during late 1989(the so-called "Belgian flap" or "Belgian Triangle")and then over Iowa on January 5, 2000. The very first sighting of this probe was actually back in 1968.

Are you being facetious?

Interesting.

I remember a friend of mine seeing a triangular UFO with lights at each corner (much like the ones you're talking about which I also recall seeing on TV) about that time (circa 2000). She saw it while running through the back yard to fetch a beer from the truck for her redneck boyfriend.

But she LONGED to see a UFO for a LONG time before that.

She got excited about seeing a UFO once before. I had to burst her bubble when I told her that this earlier UFO that she described sounded exactly like a B2 bomber ( she lived in the same county as Andrews Airforce Base) - which in all fairness- being all wing and no fuselage- does indeed look like rather alien. She latter told me that she saw a pic of the B2, and that it indeed did "look just like the thing that I saw".

But I digress.

But I still go with my theory.
That the aliens dont have to attack us because they already own the place!

Earth is a game perserve in a vast interstellar alien empire.

The UFO abductess you hear about are specimens being tagged by the Pliedian Fish and Wildlife Department to monitor our species' migration and mating patterns!

Its not invasion, but rezoning, that we have to worry about!

If powerful interest groups among the aliens have our solar system rezoned as a business district instead of a game preserve-then theyll flatten the earth for a walmart. And were screwed!

The ETs (if they exist) live too far away to reach our planet.

The speed of light is the upper bound for moving a massive body everywhere in the cosmos.

ruveyn