A recent revival of racism?

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12 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

No, but I think the assumption that if you don't like the president you are 'racist' is more common since he's been elected.

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12 Jun 2012, 12:05 pm

Here's something funny regarding European racism. The people who accuse others of racism are the worst racists themselves. Racism is a word I don't take seriously anymore. It was used by Moroccans who subsequently beat up a pregnant woman to the point where she had a miscarriage. The reasoning, apparently, was 'the man she was dating was not a Moroccan'. It's also interesting to see how people in North Africa itself can be extremely racist at times. Black Africans have been rounded up, humiliated, tortured, deported and shot by militias in Libya. I've seen some not-so-cheerful photographs of a sewer stuffed with decomposing bodies of people shot by racist militias.

What I wonder is what these liberal hipsters think about that. Racism is bad if it happens in their country, and they encouraged 'the people of Libya' to revolt, but now they're very quiet as Libya slowly heads towards genocide.

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12 Jun 2012, 12:08 pm

Racism is a troublesome topic, because the word has been used in so many inappropriate contexts that it has lost much of its power. It's much easier to deal with "He/she has a problem with my skin color" rather than "He/She has a problem with my behavior/personality/etc"

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12 Jun 2012, 1:46 pm

I think that the economic climate must also be taken into consideration.

When times are tough and when jobs are in short supply, then people start to get their backs up when they feel that they aren't being treated fairly. Now this can cut in both directions--minorities complain of prejudicial hiring practices and culturally biased evaluations; majorities complain of preferences.

To my way of thinking, racism is simply the uncritical analysis of the division of social resources, be they jobs, university places or income supports. Racists don't hate people because they are brown, black or white--racists hate people because those people are demonstrably different and because those people are receiving things that the racists believe are properly theirs.

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12 Jun 2012, 2:53 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:

I've never heard of anyone defending the racism committed by non-whites. People are people, and thus are equally stupid, despite color.
I think one reason why white westerners are so hard on American and European racism is because with the cultural advancement of western civilization, we ought to know better.

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12 Jun 2012, 4:59 pm

visagrunt wrote:

It's funny that at a time when wealth is shrinking and a lot of people are suffering and fearing for their future security, instead of coming together and being more empathetic, people are at each others throats pouring more and more acid on old wounds. Maybe I need to take a break and stop following politics for a while. It gets so depressing I can barely take it.

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12 Jun 2012, 5:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

You are assuming that humans are rational. They are NOT. Our psychological defects are wired in by our DNA.

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12 Jun 2012, 5:58 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

You are assuming that humans are rational. They are NOT. Our psychological defects are wired in by our DNA.

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Absolutely.

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12 Jun 2012, 5:59 pm

marshall wrote:

visagrunt wrote:

It seems our motivation primarily is who's ahead of you in the chow line.

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16 Jun 2012, 7:17 am

donnie_darko wrote:

Do you think since Obama has been elected, racism in America has made a comeback? I never heard people discussing race like this in the 90s or prior to 2008.

People didn't discuss the LA riots and Rodney King in the 90's?

Perhaps it is because you are starting to becoming more politically aware as you get older and as a child you were more interested in cartoons than race riots?

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19 Jun 2012, 5:11 pm

DC wrote:

donnie_darko wrote:

Do you think since Obama has been elected, racism in America has made a comeback? I never heard people discussing race like this in the 90s or prior to 2008.

I remember people discussing it...

Anyways, I don't think racism is as prevalent as what the left wants people to believe. I think that people these days are accusing people that don't agree with them of being racist in an attempt to intimidate those people and as a result destroyed the meaning of the word so that when someone really is discriminated against based on race no one will believe them, courtesy of those people trying to use the term to intimidate people, that's what is so sad about all of this.

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19 Jun 2012, 6:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

DC wrote:

donnie_darko wrote:

Do you think since Obama has been elected, racism in America has made a comeback? I never heard people discussing race like this in the 90s or prior to 2008.

Really? You seriously don't think racism is still a problem? Stereotyping minorities as "taking advantage of welfare and other social programs" is the new, allegedly more respectable face of racism. And it made its appearance in the Republican primaries with Gingrich's and Santorum's rhetoric not all that long ago.

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19 Jun 2012, 6:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DC wrote:

donnie_darko wrote:

Do you think since Obama has been elected, racism in America has made a comeback? I never heard people discussing race like this in the 90s or prior to 2008.

Thank you for making my case for me Kraichgauer, if you had actually listened to what Gingrich had said, it was bashing Democrats and Obama in particular on the account of their policies, it had nothing to do with race.

It's pretty clear liberals are in panic mode.

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19 Jun 2012, 7:18 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

DC wrote:

donnie_darko wrote:

Do you think since Obama has been elected, racism in America has made a comeback? I never heard people discussing race like this in the 90s or prior to 2008.

His reference to urban poor neighborhoods is code for black. I don't recall him ever talking about rural poor on welfare, who are overwhelmingly white.
And regarding the president's policies, what could possibly be wrong with providing a means of eating and shelter to people who couldn't otherwise afford it?

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19 Jun 2012, 9:25 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

And regarding the president's policies, what could possibly be wrong with providing a means of eating and shelter to people who couldn't otherwise afford it?

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What if all this generosity is paid for by non-voluntary means enforced by threat of jail or foreclosure?

Apparently you have no problem with generosity paid for by taxes which are taken by force or threat of force.

Suppose I were generous to the poor by getting the money from your wallet at gunpoint.? How would you feel about that?

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19 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

To return the original topic: racism isn't as bad as it used to be.

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