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Yeah, but it was about me so go figure. If you wanted it to be private you should have sent him a PM because, like it or not, anything written in a thread is up for grabs.


If so then he should have piped up sooner. When someone takes issue with your avatar, no matter what it is, after feeling slighted over the outcome of a debate then it comes off as being desperate and petty. Like I said before, I've had that avatar for a while on two separate occasions so he's had his opportunity to take offense.
Come to think of it some of them have had issues with the one I have now since I've had it before but oh well.


All BS about the pirate thingy aside, that is the insignia of the 3rd SS Panzer (armor) Division. I've always had somewhat of a fascination with the Waffen SS and to a lesser degree the SS in general. Not so much lately but more so as a kid and it comes back now and then. That particular emblem was the only Waffen SS avatar I could find during a quick search so that's what I rolled with.
If you've read some of the threads debating Israel vs. the Palestinians you might have noticed that I'm always pro-Israel and Israel has lots and lots of Jewish people in it. The same cannot be said about some of the so called liberals on this forum.
I have to say that I find it rather ironic (read that hypocritical) that the same ones that get their drawers in a knot over the insignia of a long gone German SS armor division are currently, in effect, all for the eradication of the state of Israel by their Islamic neighbors. Of course, they put some kind of spin on it in a weak attempt to exonerate themselves but what is, IS.
That's why I refused to take seriously the butthurt over that particular avatar. It's gone for good now, anyway, so whatever.
And once again, why take anything on PPR too seriously?
Happy trails

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You should have jumped in, I would have had twice the fun putting down two ignorant morons who are incapable of arguing with any substance. If you actually think Longshanks won anything there you are even more stupid and deluded than I ever thought, Raptard. Have fun with your continued trolling while the big boys talk about things way over your little head

Wake up on the wrong side of bed again, Vivian?

Ah, more U MAD BRO BS. Raptard's cookie cutter stock responses.

Distancing oneself from antisemitism in particular, substituting alternative scapegoats in the same manner, does not make one any different at all.

That could be taken two different ways, depending........
Care to elaborate?

I don't see any different way to take it. Changing the particulars is superficial. You could have had the same general type phenomenon as the Nazis on some other world where they'd never heard of Jews, it wouldn't be one iota less vile or disastrous. It would still be wrong for all the same reasons. It's not how it's dressed up or specifically which scapegoats are chosen that makes it a revolting and dangerous philosophy, it's the underlying principles behind it.

Can I take it that your saying that siding with the Israelis over the Palestinians is the same as giving Israel the green light to run roughshod over them?

No, I'm saying that support for Israel is completely irrelevant to whether you're a genocidal fascist or not. You can support Israel and still be the same in essence as a Nazi (and likewise with supporting the Palestinians). Jews are just a variable that you could swap out for some other group while retaining the essence of Nazism.

Well, if you're not sticking up for the Palestinians maybe you're back to my former avatar and what it might have been taken as, notwithstanding my explanation above.

As I said earlier, again:
"If you've read some of the threads debating Israel vs. the Palestinians you might have noticed that I'm always pro-Israel and Israel has lots and lots of Jewish people in it".

It stands to reason, for anyone who could be considered reasonable, that my support of Israel pretty much shoots down the thinly veiled charge of me being ant-Semitic or whatever.
And, no, I don't support Israel just to keep from coming off as anti-Semitic. I don't have a need to go to great lengths to do that since I'm not in or running for public office or anything.

I don't know what your personal definition of "genocidal fascist" is but if that includes my belief that a nation (read that mine if you want) having a large (even huge) military to do its bidding then I'm guilty of being a "genocidal fascist" as charged. Don't look for that to ever change with me.
Take it however you wan't but I've worn the uniform and stood my watch so I don't take my position totally from the sidelines, either.
'Nuff said.

Happy trails

Do you not support Israel because of your own religious reasons, like many Americans?

Classic Neo-Nazi groups are now turning towards vocal support of Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/german-neo- ... m-1.247193

The whites-only BNP has also stated support for what it sees as Israel "disinfecting" itself of Islam through attacks against civilian Muslim populations, and urging Western nations to do the same. In reference to the shelling of Gaza, they said: "This sort of 'disinfecting' process whereby Israel is required to sterilise areas of radical Islamist support ... is what all nations have to do in order to eradicate Islamist cells"

This doesn't make Nazism one bit less repulsive. It's still the same old vile principles at play. The lust to destroy the weak and the different, to satisfy psychological needs through scapegoats and to be driven by repulsive emotional needs rather than logic, the anti-democratic and anti-human stance is all still preserved. Swapping out one victim for another doesn't change a thing.

This is not to say that all opponents of radical Islam (of which I count myself) or all conservatives are Nazis - this is in reference exclusively to Nazis or people who worship the Nazis but think it's ok as long as they're not anti-semitic and pick some other group to visit horror on, out of fear and sadism.

Hmmm, kinda curious why you'd be asking someone you call a troll to do more of what you'll label trolling.......

So who are you claiming is the nazi now?
This fascination with Nazis, pirate flags, WWII armor divisions, etc, is unhealthy......

Well, in that post I suppose I claimed national socialist organizations that identify themselves as Nazis, are Nazis. Or neo-Nazis to be more precise.



History and politics are interests of mine. It's hardly limited to those topics. It just happens to be the topic at the moment since you were parading around in Waffen SS regalia, which got me curious, considering your politics.

Hey! Are you applying the T-word to someone new? I'm jealous! I thought that the T-word was your term of endearment specifically for me!