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24 Jul 2012, 6:18 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

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Considering the fact I told you you weren't getting banned for expressing a view like that....

Unless you are a moderator, your guarantee isn't worth much.

I'm guessing that AngelRho has already received a fair number of warnings and spankings.

Do moderators come to your house for the spankings. or is this virtually done through Skype or something like that?

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24 Jul 2012, 6:19 pm

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shrox wrote:

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shrox wrote:

Persecute me next! Me next! I can take the heat!

Alright. I don't really know much about you though. Why don't you tell me a little about yourself? Don't say I am not a just and fair persecutor.

Oh geez, I should others tell about me. Character witnesses you know...

Persecution is illogical or just plain stupid in almost 100% of cases. If you give me something good I can run with it.

Oh darn, I am Quaker, but I insult about as easily as God does...

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24 Jul 2012, 7:17 pm

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You skirted the ToS with a backdoor comment insinuating that homosexuality should be criminalized, then tried to get others to drop it so it goes unquestioned. When I call you out for what it really was (an act of cowardice), you cry about going to a moderator because for some reason you think the other things you have said on this thread (as well as probably other threads if I cared to check) aren't offensive or insulting to homosexuals.

But it's a matter of a religious view. I have no issue expressing religious views that offend others, nor do I take issue with my own right to be offended. On a forum that deals with philosophy and religion, toes are going to get stepped on. It's unavoidable. But the least we can do is disagree with respect to other human beings and their worldviews. What you're trying to do is get me to express a view that you know will get me banned if I take personal ownership of it. So all I can do on the matter is refer to the teachings I follow.

Right, I'm bullying and persecuting you...I forgot how anti-gay Christian logic worked.

Considering the fact I told you you weren't getting banned for expressing a view like that, I think have a pretty good case for libel and you trying to snake your way out.

I'm not getting banned because I'm not expressing the view you want me to express.

But if you're not bullying me, then what do you call it? I know better than to give in to someone trying to provoke me into saying something that would violate forum rules. But not everyone would handle it that well. Regardless, it's abusive. I've volunteered to just let it go. And yet somehow it just keeps getting brought right back up...

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24 Jul 2012, 7:28 pm

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I am just looking at that top sentence and am stunned you keep saying that.

I did let it go and am now now devising a plot to persecute Quakers now, while trying to get the thought out of my head about Skype Spankings. But if you want to keep talking to me about it and embarrassing yourself that is fine. I'm sure Oodain might have something else to say about your posts, or maybe you should reply to actual homosexuals (have you seen any in real life?) who protest your views? That seems more important right now.

3 EDITs: Fixed punctuation and added second paragraph.

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24 Jul 2012, 7:36 pm

iBlockhead wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

iBlockhead wrote:

Considering the fact I told you you weren't getting banned for expressing a view like that....

Unless you are a moderator, your guarantee isn't worth much.

I'm guessing that AngelRho has already received a fair number of warnings and spankings.

Do moderators come to your house for the spankings. or is this virtually done through Skype or something like that?

They typically tie you to a desk.

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24 Jul 2012, 7:39 pm

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They typically tie you to a desk.

Interesting. Do I want to know how you know this?

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24 Jul 2012, 7:50 pm

iBlockhead wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

They typically tie you to a desk.

Interesting. Do I want to know how you know this?

No, you don't.

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24 Jul 2012, 10:51 pm

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When your speculation ends up that far off, it's called "twisting his words".

I'm sure he can speak for himself. I don't think I've misinterpreted him, but if I have I would like to know what he really thinks.

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24 Jul 2012, 10:53 pm

What about MY needs?

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24 Jul 2012, 11:14 pm

iBlockhead wrote:

Considering the fact I told you you weren't getting banned for expressing a view like that, I think have a pretty good case for libel and you trying to snake your way out.

I was beginning to wonder whether I was making a mistake taking you seriously. I think I have my answer.

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25 Jul 2012, 7:21 am

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25 Jul 2012, 8:06 am

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Not necessarily, though. Due process was a feature of Mosaic law even back then. To take punitive action, it would have to be something that known to occur within the community. I doubt that the Israelites had some form of "gay police" banging down doors and checking penises to make sure there weren't any homos doing the dirty in secret. The point the OT makes is that the Israelites were supposed to care enough about each other they wouldn't want anything bad to happen even to an individual. We as a modern society don't have quite that sense of corporate solidarity that was instilled in the early Israelites, so it's hard to understand. But I imagine if one person knew about it, he'd try his best to convince his friend to stop the sinful behavior before worse things happened. If the behavior continued, it would take at least two witnesses to bring the offenders before the elders for trial before putting them to death. There is always an opportunity to turn back from sin.

But, like I said, I doubt there was any kind of homo Gestapo seeking these people out. What Leviticus most likely refers to is an act done in public, e.g. male temple prostitutes. I don't think that lets non-pagan homosexuality off the hook; it's just more difficult to prosecute.

In the Old Testament, David and Jonathan were never punished. I can't think of any other cases.

In the New Testament, homosexuality is quite commonplace.

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25 Jul 2012, 9:00 am

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In the Old Testament, David and Jonathan were never punished. I can't think of any other cases.

In the New Testament, homosexuality is quite commonplace.

The only evidence that David and Jonathan were lovers is a poetic statement from David, and even that is quite a stretch. I think their relationship in modern terms is best described as a "bromance." It's not surprising, either, since David doesn't seem to have a positive track record with women until at least middle-age. If I had to deal with a nagging wife and/or responsibility to multiple wives as David eventually did, I'd probably conclude a male friend's non-romantic, non-physical love to be superior to physical intimacy with a woman, too.

You'll need to clarify on the NT reference. A consistent theme throughout the Bible is the widespread presence and influence of sin. Just because something is commonplace doesn't make it right.

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25 Jul 2012, 2:59 pm

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I think maybe homosexuals are perfectly capable of forming relationships with God, but I would disagree that it follows that they would continue in actively homosexual behavior. It does sometimes happen that homosexuals choose celibacy over any kind of intimate relationship.

That's quite astonishing because not only are you making a generalised judgement on any relationship I may have with God while knowing neither me nor that, you also determine that if I had formed any relationship with God it should of necessity curtail my relationship with others.
You are also assuming, somewhat arrogantly I might add, only your concept of God exists and that I must therefore subscribe to the same concept.
It does not and I do not.

It turns out that Sally Ride was a Lesbian

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/2 ... 01440.html

And she got a lot closer to Heaven than any of us ever will.

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25 Jul 2012, 3:22 pm

Ancalagon wrote:

iBlockhead wrote:

Considering the fact I told you you weren't getting banned for expressing a view like that, I think have a pretty good case for libel and you trying to snake your way out.

I was beginning to wonder whether I was making a mistake taking you seriously. I think I have my answer.

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25 Jul 2012, 3:40 pm

"Damn! Datz a fool! Sh*t...I best just drive away, let someone else cap your ass, fool. Damn 'hood going to crap..."

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