Rampant issues with feminism....

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I wouldn't say that they have low self-esteem per se, I would say that such women are insecure(and often young & immature to go along with it). As for promiscuity, a lot of promiscuous women are rather narcissistic and have really big egos. Unfortunately, monogamy is unnatural for many people and when they're young, free, and single they indulge themselves by sleeping around with lots of men(or women) despite the cultural taboo against it. I honestly think it's rather sexist of you to imply that promiscuity is natural for men but not for women. Either way, you're wrong. People aren't always aware of why they're attracted to the things they're attracted to. A "bad boy" is often viewed as being both strong and high social status. 2 things that the vast majority of women are attracted to.

I generally don't watch videos regardless of whom they are posted by and who created them; I do a lot of my posting in between patients at work, and I'm not going to be doing anything with sound.
edit: but, yeah, johntheother is not exactly a great source. His idea of a 'good woman' is something along the lines of a robot that doesn't age and is capable of sex and reproduction.

I should also note that woman have a tendency to be attacted to "bad boys" because they see them as a relationship challenge, and they seek to "change" such men. This? Coming from my brother's college-educated, highly-successful girlfriend who comes from a prominent Greek family.

Hate to bust your bubble, boys and girls, but it's not just women with "low self-esteem" and "bimbos" that go after the bad boys. Women apparently have a tendency to see decent men as, quite frankly, BORING in a relationship. There's no challenge for them, no drama.

Guys can be very much the same way: We secretly love drama queens rather than 'nice girls' who are rather boring. Drama is stressful, but it's also perversely exciting. "Bad boys" come across as a dominant, alpha male which is what I daresay >>50% of women, particularly young women, are drawn to.


Regarding the Frank Zappa aphorism, here's another way to put (and I'm talking to YOU, madamehussein!):
If you have to ask, you'll never know. Things like this are things that you really have to figure out for yourself. Most people, including most women, are not going to give you an honest answer as to what they find attractive. Making this known makes choosing the right guy even harder for them than it already is. But ultimately, putting an act and telling women what they wanna hear will not cut it. You must find someone who is naturally attracted to you because the truth is that what attracts people is independent of their behavior towards others.

I had no idea really about johntheother its the first vid i saw him make.

So why is it always called the bad boy? How come angelic beings don't marry nor are they given in marriage ?

I always find it a little bit amusing how men - quite often, men who are unwillingly single- will not only go into lengthy diatribes about "what women want," but will flat out tell women who disagree with them that they're wrong.

Here's a hint: maybe it's not that the women aren't being truthful, but that the guys you think are 'bad,' aren't as bad as you think that they are, and that you aren't as 'nice' as you think you are. After all, very few people are willing to say to themselves that they are not good people overall (and those are generally quite depressed). Hell, Ted Bundy probably thought that he was a 'nice guy.'

On the flipside it could mean the woman is just plain obnoxious and they have a "my way or the highway" mentality.

I know of a woman that would probably say I'm a mean guy, but then again she tried to sexually harass me in front of a coworker, so I was rather rude to her in response. I also informed the manager in case she ever decided to come back. She was also a great deal older than me, which made it even more creepy.

I´ve been today already in the shower and the toilette, so i am quiet sure, that i am a woman. ^^ And I am a couple with my partner since 14 years, so i had lots of time to think if i love him, and yes I do. But if pissing into someways entrance is not what you mean with "rebelling", then i ask myself why do you tell such lies and try to tell us, that everyone would know about your lies, because my partner never did even such harmless things, so he seems not to fit your rebel theory.

I am a women. I love my partner. And he is no bad boy but a very, very lovely person. So stop telling lies, which is pretty easy, you just need to start of using the word "some".

Yo that you understand what huge difference the word "some" can do:

1) Men are a**holes.

2) Some men are a**holes.

Hope you got it now.

If you do not like women who like bad guys, just dont waste your time with them. There are lots of types of men i dont like, but i didnt care, because there are also lots of mens i do like, and with which i was free to share my time because of having fun together. Accept people as they are. If someone wants to be a person who likes "bad guys", whats the problem with it? The person itself has to get happy in her life, so if she likes bad guys, she should go for it. There would be no use to force her to act as if she liked other people. I have also got no problems with superficial men, there are lots of them who do care more for the outer shelf of a partner then her inner worths. The typical guys with the sports car, and the silicone breast partner. ^^ But its ok, because as long they have a partner who want that on their own both are happy and thats what being partners is about: Being happy together. Not being happy in the mind of another person. I would not be happy with this sort of guy and this guy would not be happy with me. So why argue around why this sort of guy is not interested in women like me, if we would both be unhappy as partners anyway? ^^

I just dont like dumb superficial men, who try to force on others their deeds, thinking others were born as slaves to their deeds. So if someone is superficial and wants to meet women, matching this deed by their own, its ok. They will both get happy, and thats what its all about. Its only a problem, when you try to force others to be they way it would be comfortably, by manipulating and forcing women or men who are not interested in superficial stuff to act in this way.

So let the women who wants rebels their rebels and let the men who want superficial girls their silicon breasts, and focus on the question that should be important for you. What kind of people do you like?

I did not meet my partners by focusing on rebels whom i am not interested or focusing on superficial guys, whom i a m not interested, but by focusing on spending time with people i like. Sure there are lots of sort of guys in the world, whom i dont like, but i am not forced to spend time with them, or being partner to them, so why are you wasting time arguing around of sort of women, which you do not want to meet anyway, instead of thinking how to meet the sort of women you would like to meet?

Schneekugel, you're nitpicking at quantifiers. And FYI, I thought I made it pretty obvious that I was NOT talking about pissing in doorways or front porches when I bespoke of being a *rebel*. Jesus F*ck, lady Now I never specifically said that 100% of women like bad boys, but many, many do(even though they may not admit to it or even realize it).

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: WHAT MAKES SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE IS THEIR INTRINSIC TRAITS AND NOT THE WAY THEY TREAT OTHERS.

Who says that I'm unwillingly single, anyway? And FTR I am not a 'nice guy' by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't claim to know what all women want, but when I take a step back and observe there are some very clear patterns as to what they are attracted to. Good social skills are attractive to 90% of women out there. I realize some women will date, mate, and even procreate with socially inept men, and I have met, known, & loved one of them, but these women are extremely rare and difficult to run into. Even on dating sites.


IDK if Ted Bundy thought he was a nice guy, but a lot of women sure did! They were both attracted to him and trusted him........And became his victims.

In this case I'm not talking about a specific woman, but women in general. As in, 'women only want bad boys,' or 'women lie about what they want.' more than one poster on this thread has made blanket statements like this.

I agree with pretty much everything that Schneekugel said; Aspie Rogue, you might grant her a little bit of wriggle room as I get the impression that English is not her first language.

I guess it is safe to assume by both parties that not all women are the same?!

What you seem to want is a guy who's nice but also assertive. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's actually sexist and misandrist to characterize all those so-called "nice guys" as guys who just being nice to get sex. That is no different from saying that women who unwillingly single deserve to be single because they only want walking dildos, but we don't say that or do we? The fact is, many of those "nice guys" really want a relationship like everyone else but just don't have the social skills to do it. Last time I checked, people who think they are "entitled" to something, don't think they have to earn it. Since when is having romantic feelings for someone and being nice to them the same thing as being entitled anyway (whether they express those feelings feelings and ask them out or not)?

Hey, you are screaming at women, just because they dont share your oppinion. So if women do like bad men who rebel against social conversations skills, i do not understand why you should have got a problem? According to your theory there should be lots of women who should fall in love with you. ^^

But if you are still interested in tipps for women, most dont like guys who scream aorund. So for me, if you screamed at me, that would be the second you would see my back without any goodbye. There is a difference with "lack of social skills" and "having no manners anyway".

REMINDER to Everyone: Keep the conversation civil.