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21 Jan 2013, 12:08 am

ArrantPariah wrote:

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*wonders if AP likes being yelled at by women* :chin:

Isn't that the definition of a troll?

No.

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It's probably the only time he ever gets female attention.

Yes.

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Wrt. cultural expectations: women did not evolve with vaginas of steel.

http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Steel_Vaginas

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The idea that women enjoy gang rape in any context, whether enculturated to expect it or not, is as unrealistic as the idea that women enjoy the jackhammer sex portrayed in a lot of porn.

What the heck is "jackhammer sex?"

I was thinking that rather than "gang rape" per se, the Aboriginals may have been engaging in something more akin to consensual group sex. Some women may enjoy being the center of attention, or servicing a number of men at once.

In a footnote in Mark Twain's Letters from the Earth, a Hawaiian princess' group-coital talents were eulogized:
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/twa ... OTEPUBLISH

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In the Sandwich Islands in 1866 a buxom royal princess died. Occupying a place of distinguished honor at her funeral were thirty-six splendidly built young native men. In a laudatory song which celebrated the various merits, achievements and accomplishments of the late princess those thirty-six stallions were called her harem, and the song said it had been her pride and boast that she kept the whole of them busy, and that several times it had happened that more than one of them had been able to charge overtime.

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I find it far more likely that Western men invented the 'aboriginal women like being kidnapped and gang-raped by men' idea because they were kidnapping and gang-raping aboriginal women, than that such a practice was established and frequent within aboriginal tribes.

That would be the preferred Feminist story line. I'm sure that the Aboriginals figured out how to perform coitus long before the English arrived. Rape is apparently quite common among Australian Aboriginals, of whom many don't know that rape is illegal.

And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa0BervrwMc[/youtube]

Did this dolphin learn this behaviour by watching Western Men rape women and female dolphins in the ocean? Or, is he just doing what cums naturally?

I recall when Rob Schneider had called dolphins the jocks of the ocean, from the rough way they behave at the expense of others while having fun. Sure looks like jock behavior to me.

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21 Jan 2013, 12:18 am

The real issue here is, what's in the video? A tank? The ocean? If it's a tank, why is the dolphin even in it? Why do we feel we have the right to contain the dolphin in a tank in the first place? Have we thrown him in jail for simply being free in the ocean? Why do we despise freedom so much? Why are we so jealous of free creatures? That's the issue here. What are we doing to these dolphins by holding them captive against their will. They have no choice but to stay in that pathetic enclosure. We give them no options. It's sad.

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21 Jan 2013, 4:17 am

That dolphin was just plain horny like when a dog is humping your leg!

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21 Jan 2013, 4:18 am

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Free Flipper anyone? hehe

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21 Jan 2013, 6:17 am

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Hunter-gatherer tribes are generally accepted as fill-ins for prehistoric humanity, and I challenge you to find hunter-gatherer tribes that casually accept rape or incest within the tribe. It's not a matter of culture; it's a pretty basic human rule.

Challenge accepted.

http://www.convictcreations.com/aborigines/sex.htm

I google this and I can't find evidence that Australian aborigines actually endorse gang rape as cultural practice. Everything I've read suggests that they don't, and that was stated so by the traditional leaders themselves, although there seems to be attitude among some Australian judges that rape is "traditional".

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21 Jan 2013, 6:23 am

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And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa0BervrwMc[/youtube]

Did this dolphin learn this behaviour by watching Western Men rape women and female dolphins in the ocean? Or, is he just doing what cums naturally?

In the wild, both male and female dolphins stick their beaks in each crotches like that in order to communicate an invitation to mate them. Technically, that lady diver actually indicated consent by not swimming away from him when she was supposed to. That's just humans not understanding dolphin behaviour.

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21 Jan 2013, 6:26 am

She seemed to do a lot of giggling in the video!

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21 Jan 2013, 7:11 am

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She seemed to do a lot of giggling in the video!

She thought the dolphin was just being playful. I doubt anyone in that video knew that that specific behaviour was supposed communicate an intention to mate. The fact is, that is normal interaction between dolphins in their own social groups when they are part of a pod. The thing is, though, dolphins that interact with humans a lot begin to see the humans they interact with as part of their social group and that's why they sometimes behave like that towards humans.

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21 Jan 2013, 8:09 am

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And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

FWIW, female dolphins consider our men to be sex objects as well and sexually assault them. They know what they want and they gonna get it.

"Later on, she got much more aggressive, like you read in the chapter I put online. She beat up my girlfriend and tossed her out of the pool and she would come on very strongly to me. She would rub her vulva against me. She would masturbate on my feet. If I didn't let her do that, if I resisted, she would beat me up. One time, when I was especially resisting, she pushed me down to the bottom of the pool, which was 12 feet deep."

Man who made love to dolphin interview

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21 Jan 2013, 9:21 am

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And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

Wow. That's a fascinating article. Bestiality is still a taboo subject, even for National Geographic documentaries. I wonder if there are people going on dolphin sex tours to the Caribbean?

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21 Jan 2013, 9:36 am

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Depends on how far back you go. If you're going far enough back that our skulls and bipedal stance didn't make it as dangerous to give birth as it is for modern humans (such that we could 'give birth in a field,' without much problem), our behavior was probably a lot like that of either chimpanzees or bonobos. Bonobos have sex with anything that moves, but it's pretty much mutually consensual; chimpanzees are aggressive and jealous, as well as violent with neighboring tribes, but the pretty much only mate when the female is in estrus - and the head male generally guards that privilege without sharing, if he can.

I think that we're talking about modern humans, though.

I am talking about the Hunter/Gatherers that existed before the Egyptian Dynasties, Sumerians, Babylonians, ancient Chinese, Mayans. Incas, Anasazi, or anyone else who created a civilization out of urban dwellings concentrated in one area, more or less. They would live more like wild chimpanzees than modern man. You could call mankind existing in urban areas modern, although mores do change over the years, or, they have in the Western world.

I'm reading the book After the Bounty by James Morrison.

http://www.amazon.com/After-Bounty-Sail ... 1597973718

He provides a lot of details about life among the Tahitians in the late 18th century. They hadn't developed cities. But, they did quite well for themselves with tools made of rocks, bones, coral, wood, bamboo, other plants, etc. They weren't exactly Hunter/Gatherers, as they raised pigs and did gardening. Between the Hunter/Gatherer phase and the growth of cities, there must have been a long phase of several thousand years where our ancestors used stone tools, raised livestock and planted gardens. And, they didn't live at all like wild chimpanzees.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:24 am

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

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Sounds like an interesting read! However, you are looking at an in between stage, not true hunter/gatherer while I prefer to go much further back into a more primitive time in humankind's history and examine that. We all know how strange humans can be so we can only conjecture about what life was like in this primitive society.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:26 am

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And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

Are you claiming mankind goes out in the ocean only to get assaulted by renegade dolphins? I have been in the ocean and this has never happened.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:27 am

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And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

Wow. That's a fascinating article. Bestiality is still a taboo subject, even for National Geographic documentaries. I wonder if there are people going on dolphin sex tours to the Caribbean?

It doesn't happen at sea, just in these enclosures like at Sea World and scientific think tanks where the dolphin has no rights whatsoever and is studied extensively.
I see the sea as a place where a creature can live and never have to see a human. It should be allowed to exist like that without interference. Humans creep in closer and closer. They cannot stand the idea of this world without them trying to control it and make it miserable. At least this is how it looks to an outsider.

I would take all the dolphins and throw them in the sea if it were up to me.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:31 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

mercifullyfree wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

Wow. That's a fascinating article. Bestiality is still a taboo subject, even for National Geographic documentaries. I wonder if there are people going on dolphin sex tours to the Caribbean?

It doesn't happen at sea, just in these enclosures like at Sea World and scientific think tanks where the dolphin has no rights whatsoever and is studied extensively.

I'm pretty sure I've read about it happening at sea too.

I'll have to double-check on google, though.

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21 Jan 2013, 10:34 am

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

mercifullyfree wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

And, dolphins also apparently consider our women to be luscious sex objects.

Wow. That's a fascinating article. Bestiality is still a taboo subject, even for National Geographic documentaries. I wonder if there are people going on dolphin sex tours to the Caribbean?

It doesn't happen at sea, just in these enclosures like at Sea World and scientific think tanks where the dolphin has no rights whatsoever and is studied extensively.

I'm pretty sure I've read about it happening at sea too.

I'll have to double-check on google, though.

In my opinion, it is not normal for a human to be where a dolphin is. Do dolphins only do this to human species? What about animals and fish in the same environment. Their hatred of Orcas and sharks is well known. What about relationships with other marine species besides those? I would need more information.

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