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22 May 2013, 9:02 pm
marshall wrote:
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marshall wrote:
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I think no man in his right mind would ever get legally married. It is simply too risky; the chances of getting f**** by the system (not by feminists) is too high. But this has nothing to do with feminism.
Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.
Can you tell me why you are flame baiting / trolling?I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
The thing is you really have no idea with regard to specific people on this message board. False accusations do happen. I think this thread is destined to go to straight to hell the direction you're taking it.
There is little, if any, evidence that false accusations are common at all. What is true is that many people who commit real crimes tend to deny them. This happens regardless of what the crime is. I don't see why it would be any different with rape and sexual assault.
Many murderers, bank robbers, and other criminals also deny having committed the crimes for which they were accused. Yet no one ever talks about the "epidemic" of false bank robbing charges -- taking denials of culpability at face value. We all know that criminals like to lie. But only in rape and sex crimes against kids is criminals' denial of culpability taken at face value, which is itself a type of bias.
I'm a guy, but I've been in the position of being a victim. I know how things work on both sides of the aisle (both as a straight male and a child victim). It's very hard for victims to get justice and very easy for criminals in these types of crimes to swat away even legitimate charges.
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22 May 2013, 9:15 pm
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Love those people taking pot-shots at me and calling me names... puffing out their chests and feeling all superior for it.
Funny how a guy can treat women with the utmost respect and courtesy, but the moment he points out something harmful the feminist movement might be doing, all of a sudden he's a "giant whiner" "evil misogynist" "woman hater" and the like. It's ludicrous, but to be expected when emotions rule all decision-making.
This is the classic example of when seeing a certain type of person being attacked, the groupthink is that somehow "he deserved it".
And, back to the whole point of the OP, misogyny is indeed viewed with a groupthink mentality of "bad man! bad man!"... but on the flipside, misadry is viewed as comical, assertive, power to the women, and "you go girl!" Heck, WP members can even shout their support for sites like MISANDRY4LYFE and Femitheist Divine (who wants, among other things, complete subjugation of men, castration at birth, and the reduction of males worldwide to only 1% of the population.) So how come that kind of evil is tolerated with a chuckle when commenting that some of feminism has gone too far is considered "bad words"?
eh?
Funny how a guy can treat women with the utmost respect and courtesy, but the moment he points out something harmful the feminist movement might be doing, all of a sudden he's a "giant whiner" "evil misogynist" "woman hater" and the like. It's ludicrous, but to be expected when emotions rule all decision-making.
This is the classic example of when seeing a certain type of person being attacked, the groupthink is that somehow "he deserved it".
And, back to the whole point of the OP, misogyny is indeed viewed with a groupthink mentality of "bad man! bad man!"... but on the flipside, misadry is viewed as comical, assertive, power to the women, and "you go girl!" Heck, WP members can even shout their support for sites like MISANDRY4LYFE and Femitheist Divine (who wants, among other things, complete subjugation of men, castration at birth, and the reduction of males worldwide to only 1% of the population.) So how come that kind of evil is tolerated with a chuckle when commenting that some of feminism has gone too far is considered "bad words"?
eh?
Lotta white-knighting and man-hating(even by the male gender ITSELF!) Better back out while you can, Max.
It's awesome how you pointed out what I've been saying all along. These ultra-nazi-feminists, who aren't TRUE feminists, and don't really want equality, go around blaming the good men for their problems, instead of attacking the a**holes that caused the feminism movement to be implemtned in the first place. And then they turn around and cry when these guys don't take it up the rear like they want them to.
Even if you DO take their bullcrap, you're considered weak or spineless or a white knight. You can't win.
I dunno about you, but I liked women's lib much better. Women's lib actually had women attack the people/policies that were the problem head-on, as well as actually advocating for equality. It was a much more level-headed, less hateful pursuit. This new-fangled feminism thing is hurting both genders for the most part, but nobody realizes that. It paints both sides in a bad light, for different reasons, especially by the white knights and feminazis.
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22 May 2013, 11:01 pm
meems wrote:
The plural of anecdote... is not 'data'... unless you're on WP, then of course it is.
22 May 2013, 11:23 pm
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23 May 2013, 12:56 am
marshall wrote:
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Apparently you don't know how to read. What is BS is that men expect women to work longer hours AND do the house work, cook for them, and all the traditional female roles. Is it any wonder women are more stressed out and depressed than men?
I was trying to express a balanced opinion on this issue but I don't have a lot of patience for dumb reactionary crap so I'm not really interested in arguing with you or Kurgan.
I was trying to express a balanced opinion on this issue but I don't have a lot of patience for dumb reactionary crap so I'm not really interested in arguing with you or Kurgan.
This thread is full of arguments that make no sense at all. This one just filled the cup.
If the issue raised if that men have a higher average salary because they're men or because they're more involved... what's the point with the house work? Now the company has to pay for the house work? What kind of BS is that? C'mon!
If nobody does the housework or child rearing the children might get taken away by protective services. If someone is fired from their job because being kept up by a screaming child all night made them too tired to function does this mean they are lazy? My point is that culturally prescribed gender roles lead to differing job performance and salaries, not innate genetic differences as implied by MRA types.
And? Besides the creative story stuff (though it lacked the part where the children taken away by protective services grow up and become delincuents, and then beat the woman, and then goes to court and is imprinsoned and escapes and takes as a hostage an old lady and... wow, quite a script!), that says nothing about the main issue: why is all this relevant for a company paying a salary?
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Those type of arguments are unworthy of a AS forum. They seem the classical used by neurotypicals ones.
Being called an irrational neurotypical is a compliment to me. It makes me feel more normal. Thank you.
I prefer being more normal in the social/partying/having friends side, and sticking to my AS side when it comes to debate rationally. But anyway, everyone has his preferences. Help yourself.
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