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01 Jun 2013, 5:54 pm

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Try getting axel grease off with a wash cloth. Good luck.



Bad idea to be touching axel grease with the bare skin anyways. It's probably a carcinogen.



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01 Jun 2013, 7:47 pm

starkid wrote:
ruveyn wrote:

Try getting axel grease off with a wash cloth. Good luck.



Bad idea to be touching axel grease with the bare skin anyways. It's probably a carcinogen.


If so then it's too late for me or most any other guy to worry about it.


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01 Jun 2013, 10:30 pm

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starkid wrote:
ruveyn wrote:

Try getting axel grease off with a wash cloth. Good luck.



Bad idea to be touching axel grease with the bare skin anyways. It's probably a carcinogen.


If so then it's too late for me or most any other guy to worry about it.


Skin is what's for keeping carcinogens out.

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01 Jun 2013, 11:41 pm

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It's worked for me so far.


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02 Jun 2013, 1:50 am

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Soap isn't really even necessary. It just strips the skin of useful oils. Water and scrubbing with a washcloth remove sweat, body odor and whatever pollution and dust may be on the skin. The hair can be weaned off of shampoo because the scalp slows down oil production when it isn't being constantly washed away. There are people who don't wash at all with shampoo and have nice-looking, healthy hair. Don't buy white fabrics and there is no need for bleach. If the clothing is stained so badly that soaking and washing with hot water and baking soda won't clean it, rip it up and use rags instead of buying detergent. Odors in the clothing can be removed with baking soda, and not using detergent obviates the need for fabric softener, although vinegar can be used in its place. The need for toilet paper can be reduced by everyone getting plenty of fiber in the diet. It greatly reduces messy stools. Rags can be used for urination, washed and re-used instead of TP.

where do I begin- for some of us children born under a lesser god, soap is necessary to not stink. period. I have oily greasy skin, and water doesn't cut it, especially the hard water we get up in my neck of the woods. and I eat enough fiber in my diet that I run the risk [a doctor told me] of something called a phytobezoar [fibrous intestinal blockage] if I don't back off on the oats and veggies a bit. so I still need TP. and if I don't wash my hair with soap and water, it just turns into something resembling a greasy mophead. but I wouldn't expect anybody to eat roman-style, one can only economize so far.



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02 Jun 2013, 1:57 am

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Soap isn't really even necessary. It just strips the skin of useful oils. Water and scrubbing with a washcloth remove sweat, body odor and whatever pollution and dust may be on the skin. The hair can be weaned off of shampoo because the scalp slows down oil production when it isn't being constantly washed away. There are people who don't wash at all with shampoo and have nice-looking, healthy hair. Don't buy white fabrics and there is no need for bleach. If the clothing is stained so badly that soaking and washing with hot water and baking soda won't clean it, rip it up and use rags instead of buying detergent. Odors in the clothing can be removed with baking soda, and not using detergent obviates the need for fabric softener, although vinegar can be used in its place. The need for toilet paper can be reduced by everyone getting plenty of fiber in the diet. It greatly reduces messy stools. Rags can be used for urination, washed and re-used instead of TP.

where do I begin- for some of us children born under a lesser god, soap is necessary to not stink. period. I have oily greasy skin, and water doesn't cut it, especially the hard water we get up in my neck of the woods. and I eat enough fiber in my diet that I run the risk [a doctor told me] of something called a phytobezoar [fibrous intestinal blockage] if I don't back off on the oats and veggies a bit. so I still need TP. and if I don't wash my hair with soap and water, it just turns into something resembling a greasy mophead. but I wouldn't expect anybody to eat roman-style, one can only economize so far.


My wife had ended up with an intestinal blockage from Metamusal (spelling). That powdery crap literally plugged up her intestinal track, and had had to spend several days in the hospital.

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02 Jun 2013, 2:02 am

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My wife had ended up with an intestinal blockage from Metamusal (spelling). That powdery crap literally plugged up her intestinal track, and had had to spend several days in the hospital.

gosh, I hope she didn't need a bowel resection. I remember scrubbing in on a bowel case one day in 1986, this guy came into the ER with an intestinal blockage and we opened him up and sliced open one loop of his small intestine and found something that looked like a squeezed-down horse turd, full of this fibrous stuff like grass, and it turned out that the guy's wife told the surgeon that her hubby was a vegan who also took Metamucil. luckily we just scooped out the stuff and sewed his intestines back shut and closed him up.



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02 Jun 2013, 11:58 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
My wife had ended up with an intestinal blockage from Metamusal (spelling). That powdery crap literally plugged up her intestinal track, and had had to spend several days in the hospital.

gosh, I hope she didn't need a bowel resection. I remember scrubbing in on a bowel case one day in 1986, this guy came into the ER with an intestinal blockage and we opened him up and sliced open one loop of his small intestine and found something that looked like a squeezed-down horse turd, full of this fibrous stuff like grass, and it turned out that the guy's wife told the surgeon that her hubby was a vegan who also took Metamucil. luckily we just scooped out the stuff and sewed his intestines back shut and closed him up.


Not to worry - they just sent a tube down her nose into her bowel and drained the blockage out. It was no fun for her.

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02 Jun 2013, 5:44 pm

starkid wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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buy everything used. ['cept for toilet paper and soap]. they can't [yet] dip into the used product income stream.


Soap isn't really even necessary. It just strips the skin of useful oils. Water and scrubbing with a washcloth remove sweat, body odor and whatever pollution and dust may be on the skin. The hair can be weaned off of shampoo because the scalp slows down oil production when it isn't being constantly washed away. There are people who don't wash at all with shampoo and have nice-looking, healthy hair. Don't buy white fabrics and there is no need for bleach. If the clothing is stained so badly that soaking and washing with hot water and baking soda won't clean it, rip it up and use rags instead of buying detergent. Odors in the clothing can be removed with baking soda, and not using detergent obviates the need for fabric softener, although vinegar can be used in its place.


I've gone soap free recently and so far it's working out well. I do use alternatives and those aren't free though possibly cheaper.



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02 Jun 2013, 5:55 pm

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Not to worry - they just sent a tube down her nose into her bowel and drained the blockage out. It was no fun for her.

at least one doctor [the surgeon I told you about] does NOT recommend his patients use Metamucil or similar things, but to change their diet to one with more natural roughage, along with regular exercise which helps to improve motility in the digestive tract.



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02 Jun 2013, 6:20 pm

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Not to worry - they just sent a tube down her nose into her bowel and drained the blockage out. It was no fun for her.

at least one doctor [the surgeon I told you about] does NOT recommend his patients use Metamucil or similar things, but to change their diet to one with more natural roughage, along with regular exercise which helps to improve motility in the digestive tract.


Absolutely. That's what she pretty much does, now. That, and Milk of Magnesia.

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