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CAL_1138
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25 Jun 2013, 5:00 pm

Left brain people like Walrus are so funny... they are so articulate and seemingly logical.. yet they have absolutely nothing of value to say. They just regurgitate everything they have been told to believe as if from a pre-written script...

I guess it's easy to be articulate when you merely reword what thousands have already said and never spend your time considering anything different.

My favorite part was when he said how scientifically ignorant I am yet no one has posted any valid arguments refuting my claims... if they had they wouldn't still be talking to me so much.

"Me thinks the lady dost protest too much..."

"everything Cal says is DEMONSTRABLY false... yet I don't feel like proving it... but I went to college so that proves it..."



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25 Jun 2013, 5:07 pm

And there is that combination of arrogance and assumption, it guarantees you will receive the opposite to that which you claim to want.



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25 Jun 2013, 5:10 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
And there is that combination of arrogance and assumption, it guarantees you will receive the opposite to that which you claim to want.


LOL Yes.. I am the arrogant one... how non arrogant of you to notice...

I'm the one who posted how "conspiracists" are arrogant and then proceeded to illustrate what a nut and idiot you are for having an opinion different than mine...



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25 Jun 2013, 5:10 pm

We now have 53 (yes, FIFTY THREE) pages on the same subject encompassing 3 threads.

Clearly, CAL_1138 isn't going to change his mind no matter what, which makes any further discussion with him completely pointless.

Now please let this thread die.



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25 Jun 2013, 5:12 pm

GGPViper wrote:
We now have 53 (yes, FIFTY THREE) pages on the same subject encompassing 3 threads.

Clearly, CAL_1138 isn't going to change his mind no matter what, which makes any further discussion with him completely pointless.

Now please let this thread die.


Why let it die? Why would you have a problem with it if it's so uninteresting? why is it necessary for me to change my mind? To join the collective? Don't you see the problem there? Do you really think it's an accident our society is like this?

It's funny to me how people think conspiracies are nonsense... go back to the 60s when everyone was getting assassinated and made an example of for going against the system

3 of the assassins lived within a block of each other early in their lives in the Texas area.. I think we need to hear from Garrison again to have this hit home...

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PLAYBOY: Many of the professional critics of the Warren Commission appear to be prompted by political motives: Those on the left are anxious to prove Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy within the establishment; and those on the right are eager to prove the assassination was an act of "the international Communist conspiracy." Where would you place yourself on the political spectrum -- right, left of center?

GARRISON: That's a question I've asked myself frequently, especially since this investigation started and I found myself in an incongruous and disillusioning battle with agencies of my own Government. I can't just sit down and add up my political beliefs like a mathematical sum, but I think, in balance, I'd turn up somewhere around the middle. Over the years, I guess I've developed a somewhat conservative attitude -- in the traditional libertarian sense of conservatism, as opposed to the thumbscrew-and-rack conservatism of the paramilitary right -- particularly in regard to the importance of the individual as opposed to the state and the individual's own responsibilities to humanity. I don't think I've ever tried to formulate this into a coherent political philosophy, but at the root of my concern is the conviction that a human being is not a digit; he's not a digit in regard to the state and he's not a digit in the sense that he can ignore his fellow men and his obligations to society. I was with the artillery supporting the division that took Dachau; I arrived there the day after it was taken, when bulldozers were making pyramids of human bodies outside the camp. What I saw there has haunted me ever since. Because the law is my profession, I've always wondered about the judges throughout Germany who sentenced men to jail for picking pockets at a time when their own government was jerking gold from the teeth of men murdered in gas chambers. I'm concerned about all of this because it isn't a German phenomenon; it's a human phenomenon. It can happen here, because there has been no change and there has been no progress and there has been no increase of understanding on the part of men for their fellow man. What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution. In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same. I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security.

PLAYBOY: Considering all the criticism that has come your way, would you still launch your investigation into the assassination if you had it to do over again?

GARRISON: As long as the men who shot John Kennedy to death in Dallas are walking the streets of America, I will continue this investigation. I have no regrets about initiating it and I have no regrets about carrying it on to its conclusion. If it takes me 30 years to nail every one of the assassins, then I will continue this investigation for 30 years. I owe that not only to Jack Kennedy but to my country.



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25 Jun 2013, 5:26 pm

And the award for 'King of Confusion' gos to.............

(Drum roll)

CAL_1138

:cheers: (Queue applause and cheers) :hail:



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25 Jun 2013, 5:35 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
And the award for 'King of Confusion' gos to.............

(Drum roll)

CAL_1138

:cheers: (Queue applause and cheers) :hail:


And at that point, the curtain comes down. Everyone take a bow, especially CAL, without whom this thread would not have been possible.


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