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Is it creepy for older guys to prefer younger women?
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03 Jan 2014, 8:44 am

Referring to Auguste Rodin's iconic statue The Kiss

salamandaqwerty wrote:
that image is far from obscene what would you consider obscene?


I didn't state that I considered it obscene. The figures, however, are nude, and, when viewed from a different angle, the woman's nipples are clearly visible. I've found that Feminists are shocked and offended by depictions of women's bare nipples in art.

In proposing depictions of the 69 position as a sexual image that would be pleasing to Feminists: so far, no complaints from them, but plenty of complaints from the gents. Interesting.



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03 Jan 2014, 9:52 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
Δ Why did you feel the need to edit your post where you stated that peak reproductive survivability peaks at 16?
I am tired of this bolloks ap you clearly mention desires with young teenage girls, if you don't find this creepy good for you you are obviously very proud of your kink, safe and faceless on an forum where you don't have to worry about any real repercussions or human interaction which is probably how you prefer your sex life. We never discussed art or the other stuff you mentioned, you just goaded me into rashly responding to your posts and spammed some pictures. I feel bored and tired responding to this and it will be my last reply. I wish you and your box of tissues a long and happy marriage. Bye bye


Well AP i could be incorrect but it appears that he is addressing me.. at least it appears that way..since there is a triangle there pointing to my post... But if he is he is slandering me here..NO I WILL NOT ACCEPT..

AS THERE IS NO STATEMENT EVER ON THIS SITE WHERE I SAID I AM ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS..THERE IS THE PRECISE STATEMENT THAT I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS AND NOT EVEN THAT MUCH INTERESTED IN THIS THING CALLED SEX THAT MUCH AT ALL NOW AT 53....

BUT POSTER 'S' IF YOU WERE NOT ADDRESSING ME WITH THE TRIANGLE THINGY NEVER MIND..

STATING SOMEONE SAID THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS IN A SEXUAL WAY IS AN IMPLICATION OF potential PEDOPHILIA-WHICH IS A CRIME..

AND YES A SERIOUS CASE OF POTENTIAL CIVIL CASE SLANDER..

NOT A THREAT..JUST A LITTLE EDUCATION ON THE LAW....FOR loosely stating things like this about someone ON any internet forum...for anyone..even if you are NOT addressing me....

I type extremely fast..about 130 words a minute..occasionally i do make typos and edit my errors..

Rarely do i ever need to correct context or even grammar...

I also have close to a photographic memory..and read on average about 10 to 15 times faster that the average human being..

I say what i mean...and know what i say...


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03 Jan 2014, 10:01 am

Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:09 am

ruveyn wrote:
Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:13 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.


And breathing hard at that.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:19 am

Well..modern science clearly indicates that men are attracted to visual images of the opposite sex much stronger than females..

IN our culture ..from an environmental perspective..

Teenage girls dress in provocative ways that stimulate this visual stimulation....

If they did not promote their wares..men would be much less likely to look and yes to lust...

As men do tend to lust after body parts..because of this hardwired biological propensity in sexually stimulating visual images ....regardless of who or what owns them.....

Cognition and inhibition..keeps those stimulations..in check..for most men...

Otherwise the prisons..would be much fuller..than the bursting at the seams that we already have...

From the war on drugs..and etc. etc etc.....

I am almost blind without corrective lenses...

I am so glad that i can go to the dam gym and work out..and all of that ..and be almost blind...

As the 20plus chicks that work out there..could just as easily be almost posing for a centerfold spread in a tame publication like playboy..as they are dressed like they are ready for sex...per highlighting their sexual wares....

Last thing i want to see when doing a serious work out...it's very distracting...and yes while I'm not that much interested in the act.. i am an extremely healthy male...and this does 'effect' me....

But iT IS A FREE COUNTRY AND THIS IS LEGAL..AND I WOULD DIE TO FIGHT FOR THE LIBERTY OF THOSE WOMEN TO DRESS HOWEVER THEY LEGALLY LIKE...

I'LL JUST KEEP CONTINUING NOT TO WEAR MY EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE prescription SUNGLASSES...when working out..there is always potential adaptation..to whatever 'ails' ya....


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03 Jan 2014, 10:42 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.


We live in a 'schizophrenic' society...

A society where 'we' promote sex in our 'children' by allowing them to dress like common street walkers..which again is freedom of choice..

(By the way i support legal prostitution..when a women chooses to do this..of her own volition..too...)

And at the same time will witch hunt a man .. a teacher..or whoever..if he gives a teenage looking female a 'second glance'..


But reputation means everything..when all there is..is words to look at..

I ain't getting anywhere close to that pedophilia crap...


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03 Jan 2014, 11:54 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
... i honestly believe the modern western culture is obsessed with youth to an incredibly unhealthy extent. and this obsession with justifying everything with pop genetics is ludicrous....There is billions of dollars being made on perpetuating these ridiculous ideals of youth and beauty. you are actually more attracted to these traits because of billion dollar marketing designed specifically to sell you this ideal as a shiny need worthy product.
i find it really sad


Song of Solomon 1 wrote:
...You, my love, excite men
as a mare excites the stallions of Pharaoh's chariots.
Your hair is beautiful upon your cheeks
and falls along your neck like jewels....



Song of Solomon 7 wrote:
What a magnificent young woman you are!
How beautiful are your feet in sandals.
The curve of your thighs
is like the work of an artist.

A bowl is there,
that never runs out of spiced wine.
A sheaf of wheat is there,
surrounded by lilies.

Your breasts are like twin deer,
like two gazelles.

Your neck is like a tower of ivory.
Your eyes are like the pools in the city of Heshbon,
near the gate of that great city.
Your nose is as lovely as the tower of Lebanon
that stands guard at Damascus.

Your head is held high like Mount Carmel.
Your braided hair shines like the finest satin;
its beauty could hold a king captive.

How pretty you are, how beautiful;
how complete the delights of your love.

You are as graceful as a palm tree,
and your breasts are clusters of dates.

I will climb the palm tree
and pick its fruit.
To me your breasts are like bunches of grapes,
your breath like the fragrance of apples,
and your mouth like the finest wine.


Song of Solomon 8 wrote:
The Woman's Brothers:
We have a young sister,
and her breasts are still small.
What will we do for her
when a young man comes courting?

If she is a wall,
we will build her a silver tower.
But if she is a gate,
we will protect her with panels of cedar.

The Woman:
I am a wall,
and my breasts are its towers.
My lover knows that with him
I find contentment and peace.

The Man:
Solomon has a vineyard
in a place called Baal Hamon.
There are farmers who rent it from him;
each one pays a thousand silver coins.

Solomon is welcome to his thousand coins,
and the farmers to two hundred as their share;
I have a vineyard of my own!

Let me hear your voice from the garden, my love;
my companions are waiting to hear you speak.

The Woman:
Come to me, my lover, like a gazelle,
like a young stag on the mountains where spices grow.


The advertising industry clearly didn't invent the male fascination with youthful and beautiful females--they are merely capitalizing upon it.



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03 Jan 2014, 11:55 am

i think i need to clarify my intent here as it has become distorted.
this is a very sensitive topic for me as i have had too much experience with sexual abuse. my opinion here is that "lusting after the young chicks" can imply an attitude and environment that is accepting .and condoning to many men/women with a predatory nature who may very well read such things as a justification of the abuse and suffering they inflict on young women/men. i believe that perpetuating this in a chest beating fashion or to suggest this is inherently masculine can have severe and life long devastating impacts on many people's well being.
and that recognizing that sexual abuse and exploitation are far to common in our society. this glorification of the young woman as a prize to be claimed, lusted after and desired needs to be addressed and considered not waved recklessly
i have said my piece please do not quote me as i have nothing further to add


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03 Jan 2014, 11:59 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
i think i need to clarify my intent here as it has become distorted.
this is a very sensitive topic for me as i have had too much experience with sexual abuse. my opinion here is that "lusting after the young chicks" can imply an attitude and environment that is accepting .and condoning to many men/women with a predatory nature who may very well read such things as a justification of the abuse and suffering they inflict on young women/men. i believe that perpetuating this in a chest beating fashion or to suggest this is inherently masculine can have severe and life long devastating impacts on many people's well being.
and that recognizing that sexual abuse and exploitation are far to common in our society. this glorification of the young woman as a prize to be claimed, lusted after and desired needs to be addressed and considered not waved recklessly
i have said my piece please do not quote me as i have nothing further to add


Can I at least quote you to say that I agree with your point? There certainly is no justification for inflicting abuse and suffering on anyone.



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03 Jan 2014, 12:59 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
salamandaqwerty wrote:
i think i need to clarify my intent here as it has become distorted.
this is a very sensitive topic for me as i have had too much experience with sexual abuse. my opinion here is that "lusting after the young chicks" can imply an attitude and environment that is accepting .and condoning to many men/women with a predatory nature who may very well read such things as a justification of the abuse and suffering they inflict on young women/men. i believe that perpetuating this in a chest beating fashion or to suggest this is inherently masculine can have severe and life long devastating impacts on many people's well being.
and that recognizing that sexual abuse and exploitation are far to common in our society. this glorification of the young woman as a prize to be claimed, lusted after and desired needs to be addressed and considered not waved recklessly
i have said my piece please do not quote me as i have nothing further to add


Can I at least quote you to say that I agree with your point? There certainly is no justification for inflicting abuse and suffering on anyone.


I second that..humans can get turned on and have ethics too...

This is never a black and white topic..friends...


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03 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm

Well.. here is a full documentary on the science of lust and love..

And be advised it is a youtube video that i will not directly link here as there is a TV14 thumbnail presented there to 'get' people's 'attention'...ALONG the lines of what my wife sees on 'General Hospital'..that daytime soap opera to clarify what it is...for folks like me that ..abhor.. TV..overall....

I don't want to offend any puritan idealism..that may exiSt here..Victorian age..or whatever...

That's kinda sarcastic...and it's kinda not by the way...

But to each his or her own..and i can respect that .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCK6zoiafio

Point being there is 'hard science' 'behind' this human lust and love thing..along with visual images...

Nothing is gonna change this..no matter what anyone imagines is true...

IT IS HUMAN NATURE..THAT IS ALL...


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03 Jan 2014, 1:13 pm

salamandaqwerty wrote:
i think i need to clarify my intent here as it has become distorted.
this is a very sensitive topic for me as i have had too much experience with sexual abuse. my opinion here is that "lusting after the young chicks" can imply an attitude and environment that is accepting .and condoning to many men/women with a predatory nature who may very well read such things as a justification of the abuse and suffering they inflict on young women/men. i believe that perpetuating this in a chest beating fashion or to suggest this is inherently masculine can have severe and life long devastating impacts on many people's well being.
and that recognizing that sexual abuse and exploitation are far to common in our society. this glorification of the young woman as a prize to be claimed, lusted after and desired needs to be addressed and considered not waved recklessly
i have said my piece please do not quote me as i have nothing further to add


To be direct with you..it will be helpful in the future..if you WILL ACTUALLY quote who you are responding to...

This IS a forum for people with Asperger's syndrome..

And it does help if some of us know for sure who is talking TO US....

BUT THAT IS UP TO YOU..FRIEND..just a suggestion...

But if you do not make it clear..in the the future..i will tell you this..I WILL DEFEND MYSELF DIRECTLY TO YOU..whether you like it or not..if there is any inkLing that my integrity is being unfairly compromised....


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03 Jan 2014, 1:32 pm

And, since the Bible has already been invoked, no discussion of this topic would be complete without a reference to

1 Kings 1 wrote:
King David was old and advanced in years; and although they covered him with clothes, he could not get warm. So his servants said to him, ‘Let a young virgin be sought for my lord the king, and let her wait on the king, and be his attendant; let her lie in your bosom, so that my lord the king may be warm.’ So they searched for a beautiful girl throughout all the territory of Israel, and found Abishag the Shunammite, and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful. She became the king’s attendant and served him, but the king did not know her sexually..


David already possessed a substantial harem, and, apparently, even Bathsheba didn't appeal to him any more. A young piece of ass was required.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abishag

Wikipedia wrote:
The Interpreter's Bible notes that "the Hebrews...believed that the fertility of the soil and the general prosperity of the people were bound up with the fertility of the king. David by this time was old and decrepit and his sexual vigor is called into question. Attempts are made to remedy the situation. The first cure is to heap clothes upon his bed in order to secure such physical heat as might render him capable. When this fails a search is made for the most beautiful woman in the land. great emphasis is placed upon Abishag's charms. the LXX supports this by translating in vs. 2, "and let her excite him and lie with him." The fact that the king did not have intercourse with her is decisive in the story. If David was impotent he could no longer be king."


When we reach that age, a lot of us would probably like the same treatment, but most of us just aren't going to get it.

Here is one elderly Frenchman who found a solution:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYu8tIRh6E[/youtube]

This documentary is obviously a bit dated: Cambodia passed a law that no foreign man who is more than 50 years old may get married in Cambodia, evidently in response to international criticism over human trafficking. But it does seem an odd fix, given that Cambodia is also trying to promote itself as a retirement destination.



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03 Jan 2014, 1:35 pm

A depiction of David and Abishag

http://www.aeragon.com/00/itz/06/David_Abishag_01.jpg

In something close to the Feminist-endorsed 69 position.



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03 Jan 2014, 3:04 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
A depiction of David and Abishag

http://www.aeragon.com/00/itz/06/David_Abishag_01.jpg

In something close to the Feminist-endorsed 69 position.


Well..at least she does look well over 18 in that picture...

Of course that too.. is dependent on culture..when a female turns adult and all of that...

16 always has been somewhat of a magical age for females in western cultures anyway..

Kind of symbolic in a way..of blossoming youth..

Regardless of what science or whoever 'technically has all the facts' for all of that....

'She's just 16 years old leave her alone they say'..

Yeah..right...

Sound of Music and all of that 2..'i am 16 going on 17' and all of that..

This s**t is everywhere in Western Culture..

Ain't no one fooling me..that's for sure...

It's different..but not that much different..than Muslim cultures..overall..

Its all about making reproduction happen...for whoever has the power.....

Overall...

Again..just in my opinion...

And yes..when i was 18 i most definitely was attracted to 16 year old girls..

What can i say..god made me that way...


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