Why do Christians Scowl at Evolution?

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26 Nov 2013, 1:13 pm

fortydaysthree wrote:

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I'm not a comedian, a troll or uneducated. I'm incredibly informed about the truth and if anyone believes that my Jesus or anyone in our world came from a stupid monkey they are dumb and deserve what they get after death. I'm going to be a christian musician and a preacher one of these days and my favorite topic is HELL.

This is one of the most un-Christian things I have seen recently. It seems you are uneducated about the teachings of your own savior. Your judgmental B.S. would have been appalling to the one you claim to follow.

God loves hellfire preachers and the reason being - Not many will do it. Jesus spoke of hell many times and at least some of us need to preach the consequences for ignorance and bad behavior. Not to mention lack of love for God.

The Bible mentions gehenna (which has been interpreted as hell) exactly 12 times in the whole of the scripture. The concept of everlasting torment for your sins was a popular means of crowd control at the time used by Romans, Greeks, and Egyptian Jews in their apochryphal books (to name a few). I think you may be focusing on the wrong message entirely.

II Cor. 13.5
Try your own selves, whether ye are in the faith; prove your own selves.

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26 Nov 2013, 2:08 pm

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But what about teaching God's love for us, as well as reciprocating his love by loving one another?

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26 Nov 2013, 3:56 pm

On a side note, the "giants" mentioned in the Bible are thought to represent an attempt at explaining accidental dinosaur bone discoveries.

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26 Nov 2013, 6:45 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:

Weird but when I was a Christian back in my youth, I always believed that evolution did and could've coexisted with all the Old Testament history. If I was still in church today, they would have me hanged for even suggesting such an idea.

I'm in the same boat. My belief system is pretty weird if I was to try to explain it. I don't doubt evolution and I believe in God. I'm a walking contradiction

I don't care if people believe in creationism or evolution, whatever floats in your boat as long as you aren't a jerk to people who believe in either.

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26 Nov 2013, 6:54 pm

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raisedbyignorance wrote:

Me too.

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26 Nov 2013, 7:10 pm

fortydaysthree wrote:

Nothing in the bible says the earth is only 6,000 years old. For me to say I believe in old earth creation does not mean I abandon anything the bible says. A monk philosopher aged the world as 6,000 years old, not the bible. The problem is they put that timeline in the bible to make it look biblical.

But the timeline is derived from reading the bible (counting all of the 'begats' and everything else chronicled within and counting back). Long before Bishop Ussher came up with a precise date for creation the concensus among all of the Abrahamic religions was that creation happened about 4000 BC. The Hebrew calender starts with the date of creation, and the Hebrew year is actually a few decades short of 6000. Take the bible literally- and you get an age for creation that hovers around 6000.Thats just the way it is.

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26 Nov 2013, 7:39 pm

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The Earth was create Sept 28, 4006 b.c. acording to Bishop Ussher. He derived this figure by adding up ages and the begats in the Old Testament (that is what the goyim call the TNKH or Hebrew Scriptures).

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26 Nov 2013, 9:23 pm

Actually October 23rd, four thousand and FOUR BC!

Actually he had it pegged it to 4000 BC. But then he pushed it back to accomidate the error made by the early church in dating the birth of Christ.

By Ussher's time the experts all had realized that Christ could not have been born any time later than four years "before Christ". So that put creation at 4004 BC.

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27 Nov 2013, 1:40 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Thank you for the correction.

In any case Genesis cannot be taken literally.

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27 Nov 2013, 4:36 pm

IF Genesis is supposed to be taken literally, that would make God a liar for planting so much evidence of so many different types from every branch of science that falsifies such a reading. IF the Bible is the word of God, either Genesis is not supposed to be taken literally, or that God is a malicious prankster since the price of our being fooled by all the evidence of His creation is eternal damnation.

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27 Nov 2013, 5:50 pm

fortydaysthree wrote:

here is a good verse that answers the topic question

1 Tim. 1:4

"and not to occupy themselves with myths and endless genealogies that promote speculations rather than the divine training[a] that is known by faith."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AjU0H_Fn7U[/youtube]

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27 Nov 2013, 6:09 pm

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29 Nov 2013, 4:50 pm

fortydaysthree wrote:

No you are not a comedian, nothing you have said is remotely funny, instead I find it very disturbing. Are you uneducated, well I cannot say where your education lies but it certainly does not lie any where near the vicinity of chemistry, biology, geology, physics, mathematics, astronomy, nor for that matter upon reflection do I think history has had much of a look in. Off you go then sing your songs of hell and damnation, preach fire and brimstone to the gullible and abuse the minds of young children who you brainwash with the threat of eternal damnation.

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29 Nov 2013, 11:26 pm

Not all of us do. Christians who are hostile toward evolution think the creation account in Genesis should be interpreted as a literal, historical, account. Many other Christians don't interpret Genesis like that for various reasons. I don't believe the author of the creation account was concerned with science. Instead the author was concerned with telling the reader that there is one God who created everything and that we are created in His image.

I dont believe someone has to reject science in order to be a good Christian. A great resource on the relationship between Christianity and evolution, as well as other topics relating to science and religion, is Biologos (google it, i cant post URLs)

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29 Nov 2013, 11:32 pm

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Amen.

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29 Nov 2013, 11:57 pm

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