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01 Jan 2014, 11:10 am

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It takes a very stupid person to think women are any better than men, I'm sorry.


What are you sorry for? I don't think that.


Thank you for your responses, but I wasn't directly addressing you in specific. Sorry for the impression I had. I was speaking to people generally.



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01 Jan 2014, 11:13 am

Shau wrote:
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It takes a very stupid person to think women are any better than men, I'm sorry.


What are you sorry for? I don't think that.


Thank you for your responses, but I wasn't directly addressing you in specific. Sorry for the impression I had. I was speaking to people generally.


There's not much point in apologising to people generally.


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01 Jan 2014, 11:18 am

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There's not much point in apologising to people generally.


It's not a real apology, really. Just my manner of speaking.



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01 Jan 2014, 11:44 am

Shau wrote:
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There's not much point in apologising to people generally.


It's not a real apology, really. Just my manner of speaking.


I've found myself speaking that way before. I then questioned why I was doing it and I figured that it was because I still felt that my opinions needed apologising for in some sense because they're bound to offend someone. Then I realised they'll offend someone whether I apologise or not.

It's also a 'polite' was of voicing a contentious opinion (however right it is, and I do think you are right) but it doesn't have the desired effect of making me seem humble because the people who would be offended by it don't recognise humility in people they disagree with. Haters gonna hate, basically.


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01 Jan 2014, 12:03 pm

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I've found myself speaking that way before. I then questioned why I was doing it and I figured that it was because I still felt that my opinions needed apologising for in some sense because they're bound to offend someone. Then I realised they'll offend someone whether I apologise or not.

It's also a 'polite' was of voicing a contentious opinion (however right it is, and I do think you are right) but it doesn't have the desired effect of making me seem humble because the people who would be offended by it don't recognise humility in people they disagree with. Haters gonna hate, basically.


There's absolutely nothing cathartic or graceful about it when I tend to say it. *Points to custom title.*

Put more bluntly and Aspie like:

I don't see the "oppressors" and the "oppressed". I see "winners" and "losers". I see "oppressed" that would readily become "oppressors" given so much as a lick of a chance.



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01 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm

Shau wrote:
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I've found myself speaking that way before. I then questioned why I was doing it and I figured that it was because I still felt that my opinions needed apologising for in some sense because they're bound to offend someone. Then I realised they'll offend someone whether I apologise or not.

It's also a 'polite' was of voicing a contentious opinion (however right it is, and I do think you are right) but it doesn't have the desired effect of making me seem humble because the people who would be offended by it don't recognise humility in people they disagree with. Haters gonna hate, basically.


There's absolutely nothing cathartic or graceful about it when I tend to say it. *Points to custom title.*

Put more bluntly and Aspie like:

I don't see the "oppressors" and the "oppressed". I see "winners" and "losers". I see "oppressed" that would readily become "oppressors" given so much as a lick of a chance.


I agree every oppressed group has the potential to become oppressors themselves, but that doesn't alter the fact that they are currently oppressed.

I don't think it's inevitable that humans try to dominate each other. Very unpopular idea for me to have. I know to some extent humans have evolved to do it, but we're unusual creatures in that we don't do everything instinctively and that we can actually analyse our own behaviour. The desire to dominate will always be there but we are able to control it. For that reason, I don't think humans not being a***holes is impossible, just unlikely. It will get more possible when enough people stop thinking it's impossible.


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01 Jan 2014, 3:56 pm

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01 Jan 2014, 7:43 pm

I don't have any evidence to back up my prejudices, so here's a YouTube video of a balding turbonerd yelling at his webcam.



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02 Jan 2014, 3:44 am

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How is living longer a privilege?Thats just biology.Not that there's anything wrong with living longer.


Actually it's a side effect of higher young death rates from less than biological things, like suicides and accidents. There is some biology, but there is less of a difference between men and woman who live old.


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04 Jan 2014, 6:11 pm

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05 Jan 2014, 11:08 am

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enjoy!


You obviously don't know what patriarchy is, because the patriarchy hurts men as well.


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05 Jan 2014, 12:28 pm

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only 40% of men historically reproduce vs 80% of women


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05 Jan 2014, 12:53 pm

Patriarchy is some silly thing males dreamed up to control society so they can run the show and have their way at all times like infantile babies. 50/50.



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05 Jan 2014, 1:12 pm

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The Myth of Male Power: Why Men are the Disposable Sex (Simon and Schuster, 1st Ed., 1993; 2nd Ed., Berkely, 2000) is an internationally best-selling book by Warren Farrell. In the book, Farrell argues that the widespread perception of men having inordinate social and economic power is false, and that men are actually systematically disadvantaged in many ways.



"A revolutionary understanding of equality, power, women, and men. I love this book!"

--Karen DeCrow, former president, National Organization for Women


"More riveting than most novels, The Myth of Male Power is brilliant, insightful, and devastating. If you thought Robert Bly and Camille Paglia shook up gender discourse... prepare for a major earthquake! No one who reads this book with an open mind will ever look at men--or women--in the same way. It is a quantum leap into a more humane future."

--Eugene R. August, Ph.D., Professor of Literature, University of Dayton; author of Men's Studies: A Selected and Annotated Interdisciplinary Bibliography


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05 Jan 2014, 1:17 pm

This is so silly. I mean really. Men are disposable? Hardly at least where I live. Men have things they do, while women do things. Men saying they are disposable is just this victim complex they have. It really is. I have never seen anyone say they are disposable. The only ones that treat them that way is the military but that was back before technology intervened. Nowadays they are much more protected in combat and women are pressurizing to take on more active duty roles so men aren't out there taking the brunt of it by themselves.

It's just a few males trying to create some drama. What better way than to declare they are disposable? Silly.



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05 Jan 2014, 1:31 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
This is so silly. I mean really. Men are disposable? Hardly at least where I live. Men have things they do, while women do things. Men saying they are disposable is just this victim complex they have. It really is. I have never seen anyone say they are disposable. The only ones that treat them that way is the military but that was back before technology intervened. Nowadays they are much more protected in combat and women are pressurizing to take on more active duty roles so men aren't out there taking the brunt of it by themselves.

It's just a few males trying to create some drama. What better way than to declare they are disposable? Silly.


It's just the "Culture of Victimhood" rearing it's ugly head. When you haven't accomplished anything of note in your life, being the "Biggest Victim" is the next best thing.

As for the military, in the U.S., we have an all-volunteer force, and men are hardly treated as "disposable." Besides, women will be permitted in direct combat roles in 2016, so, hurrah, equality.


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