israel sure looks like nazi germany

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Because they are ISLAMISTS. Seriously do you know about the region?

I mean by now they should know. They should have figured out how the game is played. My advice to them is to work in their best interest, not go against it. Do not sit there and wallow in your own feces.

Seriously, can you provide a source?

So the Israelis should do an Holocaust on the Palestinians, until there are only about 1-2% of the origin people left, which are so few, that there is no sense anymore in any negotiating. (Be it peaceful or aggressive.) Fact are normally things, that cannot be done otherwise. That the force of gravity on earth around sealevel is actually 9,81 kN is a fact. So if its a fact of life, that if you cooperate and avoid violance, things get better, how could that have happen: Trail of Tears So it is Science Fiction that this happen, because it cannot have happened, because it would denie your fact, which simply cannot happen, because otherwise its no fact.

Oh... so the english queen is still landlord of the western american colonies? Cool, and my homeland Austria still owns half europe, thats great. ^^ In your face you serbian wannabe guerrillas. ^^

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What? I am not going to dignify that it's common knowledge lol if you have read any articles.
Islamists are everywhere in the middle east they help each other out.
I am not going to do your homework for you.

So what is your suggestion?
No one is offering any good suggestions. You know if there's a big war there it will be much worse than it is now, impacting a far greater number of people. So the answer is to just have a war in the region? Is that it? Let them all bomb each other to death?
let's just have a big war with millions of casualties that will gradually involve several other countries. How's that for the answer?

If you feel like there should be a big war, then why not ask your own country to go down there and fight it? Let your country go "free" them all and see what price is paid for that.

You made a claim which seems absurd! You claimed that there were a great number of refugees from other nations into Palestine during the Israeli-Arab wars. You have to provide evidence of that! It is your responsibility! If you are unwilling to provide evidence then you might as well say that Martians settled in Palestine and claim it is common knowledge!

OMG this is getting more ironic by the minute.
Okay, if you don't believe what I typed, go find a link to an article that says there's no Islamists in the region.

This is about morality! Someone who is kidnapped may also have a better chance of survival by cooperating but that does not mean that it is right for them to be kidnapped and they should just peacefully accept it!

This is getting tiresome! I will simply assume there was no truth to what you said!

The only reason things are the way they are is due to all the suicide bombings. Americans would feel sorry for them if they didn't bomb, put pressure on Israel but as long as they continue their indiscriminate bombings, most Americans don't feel sorry for them at all. They need to deal with the construct of political reality instead of trying to blow it to bits because their weapons just aren't capable of that. It's really stupid.

Islamists is not ONE group as Al Kaida is, Islamists is simply an broad term that is used to describe all kind of various groups and persons, that think that laws should depend to some impact on the Quoran laws. Al Kaida are islamists, but not all islamists are Al Kaida. As apples are fruits, but not all fruits are apples.

The palestinian politic Arafat was as example as well an islamist, still he and his political party the PLO were opposing the as well islamic groupf of the HAMAS, which did not want the PLO to negotiate with Israel politics.

The egyptian political party of the muslim brotherhood with the president Mursi are as well Islamists, because they wanted to have the classic quuran laws to have an impact on the egyptian laws, but because of them wanting an democratic-islamic country, they were called traitors to the islamic believes by more radical groups as example the "Jihad group". Because according to them there can be no such thing as an democratic-islamic country, because public democracy not being anyway not according to the Quuran.

That the islamists are not ONE group, as are not the Israelis, is part of the problem, why any negotiations are so hard too do. Because even when you manage to have a peace-contract with most of the involved parties, then there are still some sh***y stupid hardliner on both sides, that want to extinguish each other and give a f**k about any negotiations of the 90% rest of their citizens. Saying the islamists will take care of each other, is as if you would say to wipe out the canadians of canadas, because the democratic countries of the world, will automatically take care of them, because of Canada being as well an democratic country. O_o

Islamists will often help other Islamists. Egyptian Islamists will help the Gazans for example which has already happened.

Just remember movements and demonstrations that have made the most impact the world over have been been non violent resistance.

The political reality is, that this are not some random Palestinian wannabe suicide bombers, but that all kind of groups and parties, are taking influence there. As long as palestinia gets surpressed by israel, they can use it for their propganda in all kind of muslim countries. So they DONT WANT palestinians by all means not to officially agree to any rightful agreement with Israel. Because as long as the palestinians do not officially agree to the existance of an country israel, it still can be claimed to be an rightful war against foreign aggressors. The political reality is, that because of the palestinian government hardly being able to rule their country, this groups can have that big impact on palestinian people. The palestinian government is no longer able to offer public school, payed from taxes. The majority of existing schools are sponsored instead by different foreing groups, that so can directly get a grasp on political oppinions of the students. The same goes for stuff like medication or even normal building material as cement, that due to the embargo only is available from that certain groups. That in the opposite earn themselves by smuggling it to palestinia, tons of money and favors.

So the problem is, that you have on one side a group that has a definite right to stay in their own country, but that are as well heavily depending on some foreign s**theads, that are not intersted in any peaceful negotiation.

And even when someone manages after tons of struggles to negotiate about an peace, as it was done between moderate Isreali party and PLO chief Arafat, then come some few fundamentalistic Isrealic Jews (Yop, those exist as well, and they are as stupid as their muslimic counterparts are.) and palestinian muslims, and decide to create a huge pile of s**t on that contract, by either claiming illegally against their own peoples contract land and shooting palestinians, or by shooting some rockets against israel.

If it was simply done by "The ... simply need to ...", dont you think some politician around the whole world, that were all interested in those two parties living in peace with each other, would have had that idea already? O_o

Even if the suicide bombings and rocket attacks stopped then the denial of the right to return, the arbitrary harrassment of Palestinians, the curtailing of use of roads, the illegal annexations of Palestinian lands and the curtailing of access to utilites would still continue. The Gaza wall wouldnt come down either.They aren't bombing Israel because they enjoy it, they are doing it because they have nothing else to respond to these above issues with.

At the end of the day, Israel isn't interested in a 2 state solution, the whole point of Zionism is to reinforce the idea that Jews and arabs should remain segregated. It is a deeply hate filled and racist ideology at its core.