I don't like Ann Coultar.

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okay fa***t. (only a fag would want newt for president...because sexual attraction is the only explanation as to why anyone would support that moron).

btw, i'm a registered republican. fa***t.

whatever yanks you crank

Johnnie, I'm not trying to get over-emotional or to start flaming you or anything. But while your on here paintbrushing liberals, pointing out that everyone just chooses a side and begins slinging mud, your doing the same thing. Republicans aren't at all without fault either. Look at all the crazy jesus nazi's in the republican party who try to subjugate people all over America to THEIR secular religion through legislation. Look at the Patriot Act, the single most unpatriotic thing that has ever gotten passed through the white house.
While I do agree many liberals are too brainwashed to look at the facts, so are many conservatives.
This isn't an attack, I'm merely trying to help you see your own flaws here. Please don't take it too emotionally.

he's just an NT here to troll the board.

and a fag.

If somebody made a career out of making fun of republican exstremists that would be funny as hell also.

One guy summed up the democrap party with one sentance
" I didn't leave the democrap party, they left me "

I used to drive a truck and didn't come unglued if somebody made negitive comments about the group I was part of because it's rediculous to defend a group no matter what they do. If sombody said to me truck drivers are azzholes, I would agree with them even though I was a truck driver. Most truck drivers would get personally offened and have a meltdown because they are totally oblivious they are part of a group that has plenty wrong with it. Only a total moron could drive a truck and be totally oblivious to the negitive the group they are part is involved in.

anyone who would will defend the group they are part of no matter what they do and go into the attack mode if somebody dares poke fun of them is a nut job.

Patriot act
The bill passed in the House of Representatives on October 24, 2001, and in the Senate (Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) cast the lone dissenting vote, and Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) was the sole non-voting member) on October 25, 2001. President George W. Bush signed the bill into law on October 26, 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

Getting all hysterical about the government sticking their nose into your business is no different than having a meltdown over a cop with radar. The speed cop is using undercover electronic surveillance to monitor peoples speed.

While driving i truck for a decade i was required to record every minute of my life, location, how many hours I worked and when I went to bed which the government regulated, was told to pee in a cup and subject to inspection 24/7 whenever somebody with a badge felt like it.
Funny as s**t the ACLU never had a problem with the government doing what they do to truck drivers or did anyone else. The trucking regulators had unlimited access to supporting documents to do a random audit of my log books. For no reason at all they can walk into a trucking company and ask to see John's log books and than proceed to conduct a full blown investigation to verify they are correct. It didn't take smashing into somebody or anything to be subject to getting raked over the coals.

The IRS is another government agency that has had massive amounts of power to violate peoples right to privacy and do random audits without probable cause and puts the burden of proof on the citizens.

Neither party represents average working class people in the country, it's just a matter of opinion which party is the bigger collection of nutcases, the democraps gets my vote for being bigger nut jobs than the republicans. The democrap nut jobs have a long record of doing more damage to the American middle class way of life compared to the republicans.

are you an adult

Yes, I am 27.

hurling homophobic insults at people is hardly a good way to win an argument. although it is an excellent way of making yourself appear as a bigotted idiot...

I'd have to disagree here, there is a big difference between cops using a speedometer and the government eavesdropping on emails and phone calls, having power to arrest without warrant, search without probable cause (or even knowledge that an investigation is underway), and cutting people off from fair trial. Those are very brutal and dictatorial tactics, far more intrusive and oppressive than a cop using a speedometer. I know it's SUPPOSED to only be used on terrorists, BUT, terrorist, if you haven't noticed already, seems to be the new buzz word for an excuse to condemn someone, just because john doe is ACCUSED of being a terrorist doesn't mean that he is. Peaceful protesters have been labled terrorists.
Johnny, you and I have gotten off to a good start, so I don't want you to think that I'm being an a**hole here. I'm doing my part to make sure this stays a civil discussion between us, and thus far you have done likewise with me, and I appreciate that.
But for what it's worth, I don't particularly agree with the war in Iraq. I don't think it was a wise economic investment, because while we're pooring more and more money into a war that was pointless for everyone here but our politicians in the 1st place, hundreds of thousands of people are still left homeless from Katrina, not to mention our plathora of other problems we face at home financially. ***IF*** we were gonna go to war with anyone, it should be korea. That's my 2 cents on the matter.

people can disagee on topics without getting into drag down insult contests.

I spent over 10 years driving a truck and was subject to exactly what people are now complaining about when it might be done to them.

Does the department of health walk into McDonalds at 11:30am and shut the place down for 2 hours because they want to inspect it, the government did just that to me whenever they felt like it and nobody gave a damn what it cost me in lost business.

Funny how society justified stomping on Joe Blow trucker drivers rights all in the name of pulbic safety and now when it's done to them, they have a problem with it. Poeple complain about being profiled, trucking had it's own dedicated police force after it along with inspection stations every 50 to 100 miles staffed with jack booted thugs who not only put truckers through the third degree along with mobil revenue rangers, I mean truck inspectors hunting down victims, they would keep looking until they could found something to write a ticket for or make something up to raise revenue to fund their jobs.

Try fighting a ticket in Heehawville where the local scalehouse raises millions in revenue. I got a ticket in KY and called the court to see if I could get a different court date, the lady asked me why ? was I going to come DOWN there and call their fine officer a liar in front of the judge ?
I told her never mind I'll send a check and hung up before adding if they are that hard up for $90.00

Fair trial is a myth. the lawyers can load a jury with sheep and depending on how much money somebody has will mean whether they go to jail. Plus it's based on race and how PC somebody is. Upper middle class white woman will get probation for the same thing that will send somebody who isn't PC enough to jail for a long time.

Even white woman can get screwed by the system, ask Martha Stewart. The wolves where knocking on the door of corperate america, so the old white guys who steal billions in white collar crime threw a lamb to the wolves to keep the public happy after they stole like a trillion dollars in the DOT.CON scam.

Katrina and the rest of the battered americans.
Our government can only do so much for people, this country is full of people who refuse to take an active roll in helping themselves.
I ment a guy who in 4 years went from the cloths on his back an unable to speak emglish to $60,000 a year driving a truck. Nobody gave him nothing and people born in this country with friends and families to help them can't get back on their feet after a major set back, get real. They where never on their feet and no matter what is done for them will they ever be on their feet.

So you were under surveillance when you were working. So what? You're hardly alone in that. Ask anyone who has ever worked as a teller, a cashier, etc... they have security cameras on them literally every second they are on the clock. They can't even pick their noses without someone knowing about it.

When you're at work, your time is not really your own... you have in effect "rented yourself out" to the corporation you work for, for the duration of your shift. This is why they can examine how you spend every minute of your time on the clock, monitor your phone calls, keep a security camera trained on you, etc... but only while you are at work, during the time you are "rented out" to them.

Domestic spying on individuals in their private time is simply not equivalent to an employer doing it while an employee is on the clock, sorry. Nice try, though.

Translation from BS to English...

1. Economics: Massive tax cuts for the rich, funded on the backs of the working people.
2. Domestic Affairs: Shove your ridiculous religious views down people's throats until they gag.
3. Foreign Policy: Use foreign conflicts to assist rich corporations in raping the national treasury. Make extensive use of jingoism to get the ignorant, uneducated part of the citizenry behind you, then use a combination of xenophobia and contempt for "eggheads" to stigmatize the remainder.

Heh.

1. this is a great idea but there is one extreme flaw in it: medicare and social security is about to get its worst hit ever from the baby boomers who will be retiring en masse, in the next couple years....this means we either need to cut funding to such programs or tax more. the comptroller general of the US is touring around the country right now with this message....when the US's accountant has this message and says that our economy is in grave trouble...well.....you should probably listen.

2. never accept the welfare state. there has yet to be an effective use of the welfare system to get people back into work and into jobs. social conservatism is also a waste that leads to a fall and destruction of the separation of church and state...which is important in the law making process.

3. i agree...patriotism is needed and our statesmen should have the abilty to distinguish friend from foe....one problem...many of our policy makers and key government officials are dual-citizens who hold both US and Israeli citizenship...they do not have the interests of purely the US in mind and so these people cannot properly lead or govern the country with the US's best interests in mind. i say either eliminate dual-citizenship or make people who hold dual-citizenship inelligible to hold any kind of public office or work in the public sector...their interests are not ours. as with strong military....i agree, our military is one of our biggest bread-winners and normally the sector that pushes technology the hardest and the farthest. without the military and the space race, much of our technology would never be developed.

good point for truck drivers that put in their 8 hours on the clock and than go home, many don't go home and just about live in trucks and average 6 days a week under the thumb of the government.

Many aren't on the clock, so while being interogated by jack booted thugs they are on personal time, if it can be called that. The job pays by the mile and the government limits the number of hours a driver can work, so while the jack booted thug does his/her thing the clock is still ticking away using up available revenue producing time.

One guy pulled into a scale in Wisconsin and the woman looked at his log book and told him she didn't believe he had traveled from Gary Indiana through Chicago in the amount of time he was showing and put him out of serive for 8 hours, no trial or nothing, just her freaken opinion was all that counted. He was told to park behind the scalehouse for 8 hours and stay in his sleeper.

If a truck driver pulls into a rest area and updates his/her logbook and goes to bed, than wakes up at 2am and makes a trip to the bathroom and walks back out and finds a jack booted thug standing at his/her truck asking for the logbook, they can be given a ticket if they didn't change their duty status from sleeper bearth to off duty. So getting up in the middle of the night to go take a leak still requires logging said activity. Some of the real pricks would wake drivers up to inspect their trucks, so in effect somebody could be woken up from a sound sleep and be given a ticket if they could find a reason or make one up.

It's actually illegal to sit in a truck and claim being off duty. If I still had my own truck and had it parked in my driveway, I couldn't sit in my own truck unless I logged on duty and thats in my own driveway.

Just like I could not use the truck or be involved in trucking, people don't have to use e-mail or phones. The excuse to regulate the hell out of truck drivers was because they operated on public roads. Well the phone pole in front of my house is on public property and the air space is controlled by the government and the same as a trucker operating on public property could endanger the general public and it justified prying into their personal lives, it is also possable for people to use phones and the internet to endanger the general public.

Banking and other transactions are controlled by the government and done with government regulated funds through government regulated financial institutions over the same phone and internet lines or airways the government controls, so if somebody choses to use the system, there is no reason they should expect any more privacy than Joe Blow trucker operating on public infrastructor because some people have used those institutions to endanger the general public.

So if a truck driver can be regulated 24/7 all in the name of public safety, so can everyone else and a excuse for it can be found. Probable cause, a phone line leading to your house, it's about no more probable cause than getting a truck drivers license, yet the general public saw no problem when it was just truck drivers getting raked over the coals.

Protect us from the evil truckers by stomping on all their civil rights is the same as protect us from evil people who use banks,phone and the internet to endanger society. The over 99% just minding their own business and not bothering no one don't count when witch hunts start.

The funniest one was when the cops faught drug testing because it violated their civil rights and they won. So a guy with a gun isn't a menace to public safety and a guy with a truck is and needs to be drug tested.

Pretty much buy an Island that isn't part of any country is the only true freedom or even a boat and figure out how to never have to set foot on land again.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070314/c ... aroftherat

Forgive me if I didn't catch up with the current rhetoric of the US, but I think the correct version should be "The right thinks that the left hates you"