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ROFLMAO!! !! !
gawd, Judith, you pwnd the whole thread!
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Yeah, she's so smart that it makes me want to take up Telnet gaming again.
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Well, Judith, I wish you had sent several posts! I just got back from my 60th birthday party getaway.
I have a couple of questions here. Do you also believe that one can accept the Theory of Evolution and not be an atheist or an agnostic? How do you define "genesis evolution theory?" And if this extreme left is displeasing to God, then wouldn't the extreme right be just as unacceptable?
You ask about "evolution," eh? All the word means is slow changes. The evolution everyone agrees with is that geology shows there were plants & animals that are no longer here, replaced by other plants & animals. When the ACLU defends "evolution", this is the definition they run to. For more info on "evolution," see:
humanism-vs-christ
With the Humanists, they don't have any outside guidance to resort to. They have to follow Satan's example of arbitrarily deciding for themselves what is right or wrong.
Ethnic cleansing is never considered to be about the "good of humanity." It is always about the "good of our people." I grew up in a clannish region of the US, and I understand the concept of "our people," but I strongly disapprove of it. Christ didn't come to save the white people, the black people, the oriental people, the red people, the Smiths, the Joneses, the Al-Imans, or any other "our people" group. He came to save the WHOLE world, which sounds a LOT more like humanism than either Stalin or Hitler to me.
The Humanist World Health Organization has been using poisoned vaccines in Africa to kill or sterilize Blacks. The Nigerian president came to America clandestinely and got evidence over the phone that he played over the radio stations in Nigeria. This is SO politically incorrect that you won't hear it from the American media.
There were other women who came forward besides Lewinski who WERE raped. But it was so politically incorrect they were shuffled aside. Their lives were at risk if they pursued the matter. If Hillary doesn't end up president (with a judicious use of hot lead), there will be all sorts of people that may come forward against them.
As for "religion," if Ash understands that the promises of God are for real today and to give them a try, that might interest him. The liberal social gospel would not interest him, I'm sure. John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist denomination, had a lot of behaviors that sound Aspergian. Maybe that's why there were all those split-offs; normals couldn't do it!
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ah, so you have the names of the women ( assume they were women, unless you are also accusing Bill Clinton might go for boys, or men, too) that have come forward accusing Bill Clinton of rape? I mean, you have proof this happened? this is not just something you heard from someone and it somehow got stuck in your mind as a fact, when in fact you have no fact. . just hearsay?
Look, I don't give a hoot about Bill Clinton's honor. . .I just am not interested in someone just running their mouth.
Show me your proof, it will be easy enough to do, right? If it's a fact.
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I belive in it, but I am not sure If I am getting mixed up whith some psychic ability I might have, I used to have a coin that if I thought of something positive, it came up heads, but if negative then tails. I thought it was amazing, I have also seen a my spirit guide and consult it for things, I tell you, it is amazing. I heard of them and tried to figure it out duewing meditation, the closest I had got was something like the leopard, but I was not sure, but one time close to christmas I found it. It was the most amazing feeling I have ever had, out of no where in my mind came the black panther, seeing it like that made me think that somethings must be true. Since then I have found that the panther fits perfectly to me, I wear black, but not in a depressed state, I am a quite intuitive.
I have still do draw power from dark magick, I have felt that energy and since I have I for some reason do not fear it. Some relegions don't like this as they think only God should have higher power, but it feels like I am drawn to it, kind of like I am ment to weild it. Don't knock it, it is real, I have felt it, and I am sure that I have used it, but I have learnt that it is not good mess with this power as things happen for a reason. I whent through a phaze that I enjoyed manipulating things and was addicted to dark energy/magic, and I have enjoyed some things too much. My fear is that despite being a good person, is that this naturel tendency for this energy may mean that I am infact quite evil. I am not schizophrenic, but I have had times where I have considerd my self some kind of master of dark, almost like a split personality, or is it my real personality like a past life.
I belive it is real but it kind of feels dangerous.
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I was tangled up in Evangelical Christianity when young, and I can tell you for a fact that the 'Holy Spirit' according to their understanding is merely a feeling - emotion without substance in fact. I can give plenty of personal examples, and anyone can see this in the millions of Evangelicals that are convinced that the Holy Spirit is telling them to support a particular church, affiliate with a particular pastor, and it is later shown those persons or organizations are complete frauds. If the Holy Spirit has led me to truth, it is that my rationality should not be disconnected, as Christians like yourself propose.
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I see your M.O. is to talk down to people younger than you, but I am only three years younger, buster, so back off the reverse ageism.
"She recanted her earlier sworn statement when interviewed by the FBI about the Jones case; the FBI found her account inconclusive, and the affidavit denying the allegations remains her only sworn testimony. "
I hold sexual assault as especially heinous, and if the lady did not wish to drag herself through the courts, I can certainly see her point.
But that does not make Clinton a rapist.
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I was tangled up in Evangelical Christianity when young, and I can tell you for a fact that the 'Holy Spirit' according to their understanding is merely a feeling - emotion without substance in fact. I can give plenty of personal examples, and anyone can see this in the millions of Evangelicals that are convinced that the Holy Spirit is telling them to support a particular church, affiliate with a particular pastor, and it is later shown those persons or organizations are complete frauds. If the Holy Spirit has led me to truth, it is that my rationality should not be disconnected, as Christians like yourself propose.
If you would be willing to give us a second chance, I would recommend:
"How To Listen to God" by Charles Stanley
"Hearing God's Voice" by Henry Blackaby
"Hearing God" by Dallas Willard
"Finding God's Will in Spiritually Deceptive Times" by Neil Anderson
My track record on guidance from the Holy Spirit is amazing. He told me how to invest my money. When it got high enough, He told me to quit my job. I've been living on God's investments ever since. That was over six years ago.
Me too. The teachers told me that if it filled me with "a Warm glow" then it was from God, but if it filled me with "a Cold Bitterness" then it was from Satan.
Strange ... when I tried marijuana, it gave me the warmest glow I'd ever had, but every cold beer I've ever had tastes bitter. Does this mean that using illegal drugs is a Godly act, while beer drinking is a Devilish act? Inquiring minds want to know.
Perhaps not all of them are complete frauds; but, yeah, I know what you mean.
You will be assimilated into the Body, where your biological and intellectual distinctiveness will be added while the uniqueness of your personality will be suppressed in order to achieve perfection for all.
Resistance is futile.
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sounds like at least 4 people need to grow up and stop playing pretend.
Oh, you mean the panic over polio vaccines in Nigeria that this article talks about: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3222773.stm ?? Yeah, those rumors were started by paranoid, superstitious Islamic clerics, and the President of Nigeria actually rebutted them according to this: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_k ... kepm334887
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So free will—and the acceptance of its consequences, good or bad—is contrary to the wishes of the god you follow? I'd say that describes the mentality of most of the oppressive, domineering cult leaders I've ever heard of, too.
So now we're into conspiracy theories? How sad.
I'm guessing that ASH probably stands for Aspergers Syndrome Husband.
And what makes you think you can judge or analyze accurately anything of what a total stranger will believe or resonate to? You don't know this person, or what he thinks. If you claim to know him by type, then I'd say you're making huge generalizations. If you claim divine inspiration—which wouldn't surprise me just for gee whiz—then I'd advise being prepared to have that looked at very skeptically. Above all, don't assume that what's good for you is what's good for anyone else.
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Oh, you mean the panic over polio vaccines in Nigeria that this article talks about: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3222773.stm ?? Yeah, those rumors were started by paranoid, superstitious Islamic clerics, and the President of Nigeria actually rebutted them according to this: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_k ... kepm334887
Thank you, Monty. I wished I'd thought of looking that up, myself. Getting the facts always helps, and it's always worth the effort. Bravo!
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The greatest school of magic is life itself; the strongest spell, the one you cast yourself.
I ain't been vampired: you've been Weatherwaxed.
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Pro te ipso faciete. (Do for yourself.)
Why is it that the words "Have Faith" are usually spoken by people who don't want you to make your own informed decisions?
Why is it that the words "Keep an Open Mind" are usually spoken by people who want to do your thinking for you?
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More assumptions and lies from the Apostle TimT.
Actually, my universal view does have room for such realms and beings, although neither of them have been demonstrated to actually exist.
Are you a typical Christian? I hope not. I'd be very disappointed to find out that every light and salt of the Earth is nothing more than a presumptuous, self-righteous, character assassin who has nothing better to do than bear false witness against others while wearing a shining raiment that resembles most closely the whitening of a sepulcher.
I DO hope you realize Fnord that the energy requirements for the existance of places like Heaven and Hell are Far beyond the amount of energy in the entire UNIVERSE, and they flagrantly violate the tried and tested principles of thermodynamics! The same can be said for the existance of such "spiritual beings" as described by TimT. At least UFOs dont involve anything supernatural
Well, the string theory seems to give room for parallel universes and other dimensions, so, probably ideas like Heaven and Hell could be related to such, which I wonder, not necessarily spiritual but something for us to be unable to fully understand yet?
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