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15 Mar 2016, 2:13 am

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Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.


When my family and I attended the last Gay Pride Parade in downtown Spokane, there were protesters who were shouting ugly homophobic things, and holding up signs reading hateful, indefensible things. But no one slugged any of them, or attacked them in any way. No, instead the parade participants - along with much of the onlookers on the street - burst out in song to drowned them out. I imagine something like that would occur if Trump's Trumpeters crashed a Bernie rally. Why can't the Trumpeters just do something like that? Trust me, nothing can defuse a protest better than the initial supporters singing, laughing, or clapping said protesters into silence. Especially in a case like a Trump rally, where the audience way outnumbers the protesters.


That is not the equivalent, it would be like people trying to block the road at one of these gay pride parades you enjoy so much. It's not a protest, it's is a suppression of dissent and of opinions you do not like. Protest outside the building all you want but this organized campaign to disrupt Trump rallies is not a legitimate form of protest.

Like I said, Trump supporters are not being the confrontational ones and I think people should hope it stays that way because what else can someone do but fight fire with fire?

It's all stupid really, these dumbies have overplayed their hand don't realize they're helping Trump, I've seen this before.


Freedom of speech is a right that can't be taken away by the government. I don't know if there's a legal leg to stand on by saying Anti-Trump protesters who are crashing Trump rallies should be held accountable for violating anyone's speech.
And "these gay pride parades you enjoy so much?" You seem to be implying that there's something not right or wholesome about pride parades.


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15 Mar 2016, 2:34 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.


When my family and I attended the last Gay Pride Parade in downtown Spokane, there were protesters who were shouting ugly homophobic things, and holding up signs reading hateful, indefensible things. But no one slugged any of them, or attacked them in any way. No, instead the parade participants - along with much of the onlookers on the street - burst out in song to drowned them out. I imagine something like that would occur if Trump's Trumpeters crashed a Bernie rally. Why can't the Trumpeters just do something like that? Trust me, nothing can defuse a protest better than the initial supporters singing, laughing, or clapping said protesters into silence. Especially in a case like a Trump rally, where the audience way outnumbers the protesters.


That is not the equivalent, it would be like people trying to block the road at one of these gay pride parades you enjoy so much. It's not a protest, it's is a suppression of dissent and of opinions you do not like. Protest outside the building all you want but this organized campaign to disrupt Trump rallies is not a legitimate form of protest.

Like I said, Trump supporters are not being the confrontational ones and I think people should hope it stays that way because what else can someone do but fight fire with fire?

It's all stupid really, these dumbies have overplayed their hand don't realize they're helping Trump, I've seen this before.


Freedom of speech is a right that can't be taken away by the government. I don't know if there's a legal leg to stand on by saying Anti-Trump protesters who are crashing Trump rallies should be held accountable for violating anyone's speech.
And "these gay pride parades you enjoy so much?" You seem to be implying that there's something not right or wholesome about pride parades.


no, you just make frequent mention of going to the one in Spokane



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15 Mar 2016, 2:44 am

ALL the GOP pols running this time around AFAIC are just bad news for joe lunchbucket. they all would make my life [and that of everybody I know] worth less than a plugged nickel.



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15 Mar 2016, 3:43 am

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
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Trump's supporters are not the one's being confrontational, if there is violence it will be initiated by the other side

think about how dangerous of situation that was in Chicago, there were thousands of people there confronted by another large antagonistic if not openly aggressive group. That is not a peaceful protest, what the hell is the definition of violent protest then? Do they need to kill somebody first? One of these freaks took a run at Trump the very next day, they were interviewing this idiot on CNN a day or so later like he was some kind of hero. Bernie supporter by the way. There is violent rhetoric right but not by Trump but rather his detractors who will do anything to defeat him. Calling somebody a fascist or Hitler is inciting violence, what do you think the reaction to that is? We're not stupid, I know you see this crazy double standard, and even tho you can't admit it the media can no longer control the media like they use to.

Now personally I think if people want to fight let them fight, when you let people go at it they get the idea that it is pretty stupid pretty quickly. At least one of them does.

Protest Trump events all you want but trying to shut them down is authoritarian, that is silencing dissent and nothing to do with freedom and is the initiation of force into the situation. You can only poke the bear so long.


When my family and I attended the last Gay Pride Parade in downtown Spokane, there were protesters who were shouting ugly homophobic things, and holding up signs reading hateful, indefensible things. But no one slugged any of them, or attacked them in any way. No, instead the parade participants - along with much of the onlookers on the street - burst out in song to drowned them out. I imagine something like that would occur if Trump's Trumpeters crashed a Bernie rally. Why can't the Trumpeters just do something like that? Trust me, nothing can defuse a protest better than the initial supporters singing, laughing, or clapping said protesters into silence. Especially in a case like a Trump rally, where the audience way outnumbers the protesters.


That is not the equivalent, it would be like people trying to block the road at one of these gay pride parades you enjoy so much. It's not a protest, it's is a suppression of dissent and of opinions you do not like. Protest outside the building all you want but this organized campaign to disrupt Trump rallies is not a legitimate form of protest.

Like I said, Trump supporters are not being the confrontational ones and I think people should hope it stays that way because what else can someone do but fight fire with fire?

It's all stupid really, these dumbies have overplayed their hand don't realize they're helping Trump, I've seen this before.


Freedom of speech is a right that can't be taken away by the government. I don't know if there's a legal leg to stand on by saying Anti-Trump protesters who are crashing Trump rallies should be held accountable for violating anyone's speech.
And "these gay pride parades you enjoy so much?" You seem to be implying that there's something not right or wholesome about pride parades.


no, you just make frequent mention of going to the one in Spokane


Well, one gay periodical had named Spokane the 3rd most gay friendly city in America, so we do take a certain pride in that fact.


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15 Mar 2016, 3:47 am

^^^wow :o I had no idea it made that much progress in 20 years. :wtg:



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15 Mar 2016, 4:10 am

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^^^wow :o I had no idea it made that much progress in 20 years. :wtg:


Thank you!
But if the truth be known, there's always been a strong liberal element in Spokane that only has become more vocal as the older, more conservative element dies off. Part of the conservative mindset in the Spokane area, I think, arises out of how we here beat ourselves up for our own self-perception as being too conservative and provincial, born out of a sense of inferiority when comparing ourselves to Seattle. Sure, Spokane is no Seattle or Portland when it comes to being a cosmopolitan city, but neither could we be compared to a lot of other much more conservative towns in the country. Having an annual Pride Parade and subsequent Rainbow Festival is one way how Spokanites shed that old rep too many people around here had believed.


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15 Mar 2016, 3:16 pm

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^^^wow :o I had no idea it made that much progress in 20 years. :wtg:


Thank you!
But if the truth be known, there's always been a strong liberal element in Spokane that only has become more vocal as the older, more conservative element dies off. Part of the conservative mindset in the Spokane area, I think, arises out of how we here beat ourselves up for our own self-perception as being too conservative and provincial, born out of a sense of inferiority when comparing ourselves to Seattle. Sure, Spokane is no Seattle or Portland when it comes to being a cosmopolitan city, but neither could we be compared to a lot of other much more conservative towns in the country. Having an annual Pride Parade and subsequent Rainbow Festival is one way how Spokanites shed that old rep too many people around here had believed.

you're probably more of a cosmopolitan city than Tacoma. the only thing I can see Tacoma having over Spokane is a port and lots of waterfront.



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15 Mar 2016, 6:08 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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^^^wow :o I had no idea it made that much progress in 20 years. :wtg:


Thank you!
But if the truth be known, there's always been a strong liberal element in Spokane that only has become more vocal as the older, more conservative element dies off. Part of the conservative mindset in the Spokane area, I think, arises out of how we here beat ourselves up for our own self-perception as being too conservative and provincial, born out of a sense of inferiority when comparing ourselves to Seattle. Sure, Spokane is no Seattle or Portland when it comes to being a cosmopolitan city, but neither could we be compared to a lot of other much more conservative towns in the country. Having an annual Pride Parade and subsequent Rainbow Festival is one way how Spokanites shed that old rep too many people around here had believed.

you're probably more of a cosmopolitan city than Tacoma. the only thing I can see Tacoma having over Spokane is a port and lots of waterfront.


We've got the Spokane river flowing through the both Spokane and Spokane Valley, so good enough. :lol:


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15 Mar 2016, 6:20 pm

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We've got the Spokane river flowing through the both Spokane and Spokane Valley, so good enough. :lol:

do you have a riverwalk [with nightclubs and cafes and such] along the river [just like san Antonio]?



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15 Mar 2016, 6:36 pm

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We've got the Spokane river flowing through the both Spokane and Spokane Valley, so good enough. :lol:

do you have a riverwalk [with nightclubs and cafes and such] along the river [just like san Antonio]?


Not that I can bring to mind, though the river does flow through downtown Spokane's Riverfront Park, which had been the site of the 1974 World's Fair, as well past the Opera House, and the Imax Theater. Not to mention, there are gondola rides over the river, and such.


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15 Mar 2016, 7:00 pm

^^^I guess the weather isn't quite warm enough to do like the san Antonio river walk.



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15 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm

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^^^I guess the weather isn't quite warm enough to do like the san Antonio river walk.


A bit cold, still.


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^^^I guess the weather isn't quite warm enough to do like the san Antonio river walk.


A bit cold, still.


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15 Mar 2016, 11:21 pm

last time I got to drive through your fair city was October 10, 1988. sunny day, brilliant blue skies I remember. one o'these days i'll have to try to make it there again.



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16 Mar 2016, 1:33 am

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last time I got to drive through your fair city was October 10, 1988. sunny day, brilliant blue skies I remember. one o'these days i'll have to try to make it there again.


If you ever do again, by all means look me up! :D


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16 Mar 2016, 1:34 am

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last time I got to drive through your fair city was October 10, 1988. sunny day, brilliant blue skies I remember. one o'these days i'll have to try to make it there again.


If you ever do again, by all means look me up! :D

indubitably :thumright: same if you are ever in mason county.