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Why does Trump say irresponsible things like threatening to build a wall between the US and Mexico? How can he hope to win the Hispanic vote with such statements?
I really don't think Hillary cares either: she seems to be a "limo liberal". Sanders is more genuine and passionate. She has a misplaced sense of entitlement with little to back it up. What a poor choice the US will have if it comes to Hillary vs Donald!
We need a wall. A big one. We have an illegal immigrant problem that will be sure to bring down this country. We can't afford all those people. Plus all the drugs coming up from Mexico with the drug cartels. I think the problem with illegals is totally out of hand already and won't be able to be solved. Is there any other country that let's illegals come in and then gives them all the benefits the US does? A country can't survive doing that.
Who's going to pick that salad you ate? The growers won't pay a wage that attracts Americans. Big companies bring in the illegal to work,Tysons has been found guilty of this.So you blame the poor person offered the job?Obviously they aren't lazy,or they wouldn't want it. Place the blame where it should lie,on the backs of the companies that look for cheap labor to exploit.It Americans didn't want the drugs then there would be no profit for the cartels,and now more people OD and get addicted off scripts that the doctors give them.Oxy,Percocet,hydros,Xanax.If rich people didn't pay cash under the table to their illegal maid,nanny,gardener,pool boy,carpenter,etc then people wouldn't cross the borders for those jobs.They could hire someone from a service that is a documented citizen,but they don't.
What benefits,they can't get any without documents and they don't have those.No food stamps,no Medicaid,nothing.
By the way,the retired nurse I mentioned is the child of Mexican migrant fruit workers.Her family worked their ass off in the hot fields so their daughter could have an education,become a citizen,and have a better life.
What are they going to do? Let the land go dry? Maybe Monsanto shouldn't be so rich, maybe there are too many friggin farms in California anyways? They will pay more because they have to pay more, what other choice do they have? They're not cutting a slim profit, they'll deal. These companies will take advantage of system which has been created exactly for them to exploit, nothing will ever change until you turn off the spigot of illegal immigration as well as the abuses in our work programs. Rich people are the ones that want illegal immigration since they can insulate themselves against all it's negative side effects while profiting mightily. If these companies go broke because they depend on illegal labor then good.
I pray every night that Monsanto goes broke.These companies send people across the border to bring in the workers,you can't blame poor people for wanting a job.Blame the companies,they go in search of cheap labor.Punish them,not the poor man that just wants to feed his kids.
I'd punish them with fines so huge it would no longer be profitable to bring in illegals.Right now they just get a slap on the wrist.
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The campaign against Trump is made up a select group of billionaires who think they can control our democracy from the shadows to do their bidding, people like George Soros but many others as well. I had a whole list of the people earlier behind all these groups and as I say a lot follow the money, I'll post the list once I see it again but what we have is not an organic outpouring of opposition and that's evidenced by Trump's dominance at the polls.
Actually, the American population as a whole dislikes Donald Trump more than any other GOP or Democratic political candidate from the last 25 years.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-m ... image.aspx
As such, there is no need to invoke shadowy conspiracies to explain the opposition to Trump.
Merit may be the thing that frightens Trump bashers.
The world runs because of Type A Overachievers.
Those who favor equality of outcome put it at a low level.
Eric Trump told of spending vacations from his demanding private school doing construction on some Trump project.
He was part of a crew laying tile and had to pull his weight against seasoned workers, his boss knew tile and took no bull. Measure up!
Those who hate Mexicans will admit they are hard workers. While we may hate illegals, it would not be true if there was a legal way. We used to have a Guest Worker program.
As Trump said, we will build a wall, deport all illegals, then open a door where documented people can enter and be welcome. We need Mexican labor, we do not need those fleeing Mexican jails, gangs, drug lords. Shoppers, Tourists, Students, Guest Workers, Welcome!
We do suffer some bloody results from illegal Mexicans, most of it falls on the legal community, as illegals find it the best place to hide. Will Hispanics vote to make their communities safer?
While Mexicans may be the focus, a third of Mexico lives here, there are other illegals, ISIS, Chinese Red Army, and various Mafias, Triads, Yakuza, expanding their Brand internationally. We really do have to keep up with this before it gets out of hand.
We know what is happening, our jails are full of Latin American gang members. I personally would not let someone across the border who is covered in MS 13 tattoos. Neat Zeta wrist cuff you got there amigo.
Border Control is what real countries do. We have Laws on the books and everything.
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Why does Trump say irresponsible things like threatening to build a wall between the US and Mexico? How can he hope to win the Hispanic vote with such statements?
I really don't think Hillary cares either: she seems to be a "limo liberal". Sanders is more genuine and passionate. She has a misplaced sense of entitlement with little to back it up. What a poor choice the US will have if it comes to Hillary vs Donald!
We need a wall. A big one. We have an illegal immigrant problem that will be sure to bring down this country. We can't afford all those people. Plus all the drugs coming up from Mexico with the drug cartels. I think the problem with illegals is totally out of hand already and won't be able to be solved. Is there any other country that let's illegals come in and then gives them all the benefits the US does? A country can't survive doing that.
You do know that illegal immigration is not as big of a problem as you make it out to be, it is a problem for sure but the sky is not actually falling due to illegal immigrants. All the problems in our economy are actually not the fault of illegal immigration. Also what about the americans who hire illegals and basically encourage the flow of illegal immigration by providing under the table work to them? The immigrants themselves much of the times are immigrating from worse situations and are desperate so if given an opportunity to cross illegally into the united states for work seems viable it starts looking pretty good...plenty die long before they reach the border to. Also they make crap wages all the countries wealth is hardly going to immigrants.
Also Trump kind of fails to point out that the immigrants aren't all 'mexicans' whether it's willful ignorance or not I cant decide...but yeah why hasn't he complained about other countries south of the border that immigrants are coming from?
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I'd punish them with fines so huge it would no longer be profitable to bring in illegals.Right now they just get a slap on the wrist.
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You don't have to scream for violent protests because the crack-pots on the Left are doing all the dirty work for you. And the Right was all bunched together when the Bundy Standoff was going down so turn-about is fair play in my book. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Yeah, wow, that little punch is just the start of things to come - from both sides of the fence. You need to catch up on the news and get your head out of the clouds.
Get it through your skull I do not support violent protests, regardless of if some others on the left do. I support peaceful assembly that the constitution of the United States grants people...quit trying to infer 'everyone' on the left approves of violent protest. I don't think everyone on the right supports rioting or hitting protesters because you and that 78 year man do.
And how is my head in the clouds? I am well aware there will likely be worse incidents than the guy getting punched it is actually rather concerning, I am worried about people on both sides acting extreme. I personally am going to try and steer clear of the drama as much as I can as I don't want to be involved in this Us vs. them BS...I am willing to defend myself if someone attacks me but I am certainly not going to put myself out there asking for a fight.
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Reason and a good heart in an insane world.
Never change.
I don't plan on it...I'm rather stubborn after all. I will have to check out this comic strip though as not sure I am familiar with it.
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Maybe Mexico should build a wall to keep out american criminals, and mock our government for allowing such a despicable thing to go on...as well as threaten to make us pay for it.
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Our criminals that flee to Mexico were probably from there to begin with, I don't think it is so easy to go down there and start anew without roots. As some of may recall with the recent case of the "afluenza" teen who fled there with his mother.
The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
If you are white you flee to Canada,
If Mexican-American,Mexico or further south
If you are rich,the Cayman Islands.

You research the extradition policies of other countries,put your fat stacks in Swiss accounts or Caymans.
Then leave and never return,avoid all countries that do extradite back to America.
Some won't extradite if the death penalty is on the table.
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The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
I imagine some criminals that flee to mexico where probably there to begin with. But you have got to have your head in the sand if you're unaware of non-immigrant american criminals who flee to mexico to escape criminal charges. Also its probably not very hard to start anew without roots in a rough place like mexico if you're a hardened criminal especially if you can get in good with a cartel or something.
Also does Mexicos penalty include deportation regardless of circumstances? And curious is there even a specific penalty for illegally entering the United States? and as much as you hate it it cannot be entirely ignored that illegal immigrants are dealing with different circumstances than people illegally entering mexico.
Is mexico rampant with companies that use illegal american immigrant workers, that encourage a flow of illegal immigrants? Is the american economy in such shambles and with a lot of cartel/drug trade problems right out in the open to where people feel illegal entry to mexico might be the most realistic way to have a living? I feel like what these immigrants are coming from/fleeing from should be considered when deciding the penalty for illegally immigrating.
I am not saying illegal immigration isn't a problem and we should just let them all in no strings attached and with no penalties ever....but treating it like a swath of violent rapists and murderers coming to wreck havoc in the united states, an enemy to be defeated basically isn't conductive to any kind of real solution. Especially when it cannot be denied that our whole 'war on drugs' and various government corruption does actually tie into a lot of the state of affairs south of the border.
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The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
If you are white you flee to Canada,
If Mexican-American,Mexico or further south
If you are rich,the Cayman Islands.

You research the extradition policies of other countries,put your fat stacks in Swiss accounts or Caymans.
Then leave and never return,avoid all countries that do extradite back to America.
Some won't extradite if the death penalty is on the table.
I don't get the impression it's very viable to flee to canada to escape criminal charges, if you're white you still flee to mexico or further south even I am pretty sure. I mean even post WWII a lot of nazis fled to south america to avoid charges of war crimes.
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