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19 May 2018, 2:57 pm

Giant public timeline of the Obamagate/Clintongate conspiracy, with major events highlighted:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/1 ... w-fbi.html


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19 May 2018, 3:04 pm

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Giant public timeline of the Obamagate/Clintongate conspiracy, with major events highlighted:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/1 ... w-fbi.html


And if there was such a conspiracy, funny that Clinton isn't President today.


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19 May 2018, 3:06 pm

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For all the talk about so called Obamagate, in the end it's just a vindictive wet dream of Republicans who know their orange god-emperor is taking a fall, and will take his whole corrupt machine with him.

It is possible Trump, the Clintons and Obama are corrupt. It is a vindictive wet dream because while Trump will talk himself into trouble the 3 dems are masters at avoiding trouble and besides hardcore Republicans most people consider the Clinton’s and Obama yesterdays news and who wants to be remembered in history as the “racist” who prosecuted the nations first black president and a man more popular now in large part due to comparisons to the current one.


I've come to recognize how the Clintons had walked away from the idealism of their youth a long time ago, but I have yet to believe that Obama wasn't a class act, nor have I seen any legitimate evidence to suggest that he wasn't.


Bombing 9 countries. Bombing Pakistan after 3 days in office. Supporting ISIS/Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria and destroying those countries, creating millions of refugees. Killing innocent US citizens with a drone. Supporting Neo Nazis in Ukraine was all so "classy".

Him being non white and a Democrat is good enough for some. Regardless of the destruction the spineless pathetic parasite caused. Disgusting


Perhaps being very "statesman like" and eloquent in speech is all Americans require of their president. I'm amazed at how many Democrats still talk about Obama in nauseatingly glowing terms, given the reality that his policies were pretty much the same as the preceding administration's -- or even worse!

The only difference between Trump and his predecessors is that he has striped away the respectable façade from the presidency. The deep state goes merrily on!


And what constitutes the "deep state?"


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19 May 2018, 10:16 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
Giant public timeline of the Obamagate/Clintongate conspiracy, with major events highlighted:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/1 ... w-fbi.html


And if there was such a conspiracy, funny that Clinton isn't President today.


Because people didn't swallow the worst bulls**t. Trump beat Clinton. That was the crime. That is all. That is over. It is done. It is why we see the Mueller investigation, which is now beyond a joke.


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19 May 2018, 11:55 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Darmok wrote:
Giant public timeline of the Obamagate/Clintongate conspiracy, with major events highlighted:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/1 ... w-fbi.html


And if there was such a conspiracy, funny that Clinton isn't President today.


Because people didn't swallow the worst bulls**t. Trump beat Clinton. That was the crime. That is all. That is over. It is done. It is why we see the Mueller investigation, which is now beyond a joke.


If it's a joke, why do Trump and friends have a great big guilty sign around their necks? And as a matter of fact, most Americans think Mueller is onto something.


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20 May 2018, 3:30 pm

They are all guilty of dodgy stuff, most people in politics. Just has nothing to do with 'Russian collusion' hence why Mueller has moved on to Trump's sex life. Most Americans are hoping he's on to something. The idea seems to be just to waste money dragging it out until the Democrats can try and get the house back.


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20 May 2018, 4:46 pm

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They are all guilty of dodgy stuff, most people in politics. Just has nothing to do with 'Russian collusion' hence why Mueller has moved on to Trump's sex life. Most Americans are hoping he's on to something. The idea seems to be just to waste money dragging it out until the Democrats can try and get the house back.


Who says Trump's paying off women he had had sex with means Mueller is forgetting about the collusion with Russia? The more dirt, the bigger the case.


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21 May 2018, 5:58 pm

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He'll always be the boogeyman to you guys won't he? :roll:


No Putin is the boogeyman who sole the election from Hilary and is in total control of Trump who is the sub-boogeyman.

Like I said it's just BS vs BS.


So what's new? Whether they take place in parliament, in the senate or on the internet, discussions of politics are always BS vs BS.


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21 May 2018, 6:06 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
They are all guilty of dodgy stuff, most people in politics. Just has nothing to do with 'Russian collusion' hence why Mueller has moved on to Trump's sex life. Most Americans are hoping he's on to something. The idea seems to be just to waste money dragging it out until the Democrats can try and get the house back.


Who says Trump's paying off women he had had sex with means Mueller is forgetting about the collusion with Russia? The more dirt, the bigger the case.


You're nuts, imagining that Mueller can investigate two separate elements of a crime. Obviously the only explanation of the reason why the media hasn't reported anymore about collusion is that absolutely no evidence was found and the fake news media are making new stuff up instead of adding to the last fake news story. Don't trust the lamestream media or any facts with their glaring left-wing bias, here's a link to a very trustworthy blog http://bulls.hit/

:lol:

PS: Imagine this post with more random caps, random caps show how credible a post is.


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21 May 2018, 8:08 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
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They are all guilty of dodgy stuff, most people in politics. Just has nothing to do with 'Russian collusion' hence why Mueller has moved on to Trump's sex life. Most Americans are hoping he's on to something. The idea seems to be just to waste money dragging it out until the Democrats can try and get the house back.


Who says Trump's paying off women he had had sex with means Mueller is forgetting about the collusion with Russia? The more dirt, the bigger the case.


You're nuts, imagining that Mueller can investigate two separate elements of a crime. Obviously the only explanation of the reason why the media hasn't reported anymore about collusion is that absolutely no evidence was found and the fake news media are making new stuff up instead of adding to the last fake news story. Don't trust the lamestream media or any facts with their glaring left-wing bias, here's a link to a very trustworthy blog http://bulls.hit/

:lol:

PS: Imagine this post with more random caps, random caps show how credible a post is.


Aspie that I am, had you not put the LOL emoticon at the end, I'd have thought you were serious!


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21 May 2018, 11:53 pm

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Aspie that I am, had you not put the LOL emoticon at the end, I'd have thought you were serious!


I usually worry I'm far too blunt and sardonic to be genuinely effective at satire, but that might just be the autism talking. :lol:


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22 May 2018, 6:15 am

Crossfire Hurricane: Pull back curtain on FBI's investigation of Donald Trump, Russia

The FBI surveilled Trump's campaign. Only the motive and who gave the orders remains a mystery, but it won't remain for long.

President Trump is ordering the Justice Department formally to examine whether the Obama administration used the FBI to attempt a political hit on his 2016 campaign. It’s about time.

On Sunday the president tweeted that he will instruct the DOJ to investigate whether the FBI/DOJ “infiltrated or surveilled the Trump campaign for political purposes.” The last three words are key, because we already know the Trump campaign was under FBI "surveillance." Only the motive and who gave the orders remains a mystery.

Remember the umbrage in March 2017 when the president said that he had been “wiretapped” before the election? Then-FBI Director James Comey testified he had had “no information” to support that idea, and he had “looked carefully inside the FBI." Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was no surveillance, and as DNI he would have known about a court order on "something like this." PolitiFact labeled the claim 100% false.

What a difference a year makes. Recent revelations of the extent of the anti-Trump surveillance activity have forced Trump critics to adopt a new narrative. Clapper now says spying on the campaign was actually a good thing. The New York Times took issue with the term “spying,” saying rather that it was simply an “investigation.” This dickering over terms is reminiscent of when former Attorney General Loretta Lynch insisted the “investigation” into Hillary Clinton’s home-brew email server be called a “matter.”

Former FBI agent Asha Rangappa wrote in the Washington Post that the spying was in fact for Trump’s protection, which he would understand if he knew the first thing about the art of counter-intelligence. But if the FBI was trying to shield the Trump campaign from evil Russkies, why not inform the candidate up front both to warn him and to allay any potential misunderstandings? The New York Times helpfully answers that the FBI was protecting the integrity of the election by keeping the spying under wraps — and in fact if any campaign was hurt it was Hillary Clinton’s.

This flurry of revisionist interpretations comes prior to the expected release of DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on the Hillary Clinton email investigation, which could contain criminal referrals. The IG is also looking into how the FBI obtained a FISA warrant to begin its spying campaign on an unnamed Trump aide. Shortly after the president’s tweet on Sunday, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein asked the Inspector General to expand this investigation to include “whether there was any impropriety or political motivation in how the FBI conducted its counterintelligence investigation.”


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 628652002/


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22 May 2018, 9:02 am

To Trumpers Obamagate and Crossfire Hurricane are the worst unconstitutional violations ever.

To anti Trumpers they are further proof that Trumpers are morons gullable to any conspiracy theory.

Obamagate and Crossfire Hurricane either are or are not big but that does not matter it is all about perception.

To me a Hillery is corrupt, Obama likely is corrupt and Trump is corrupt. I am AFDDD, America is falling down, down, down.


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22 May 2018, 10:16 pm

John Brennan’s Plot to Infiltrate the Trump Campaign

As Trump won primary after primary in 2016, a rattled John Brennan started claiming to colleagues at the CIA that Estonia’s intelligence agency had alerted him to an intercepted phone call suggesting Putin was pouring money into the Trump campaign. The tip was bogus, but Brennan bit on it with opportunistic relish.

Out of Brennan’s alarmist chatter about the bogus tip came an extraordinary leak to the BBC: that Brennan had used it, along with later half-baked tips from British intelligence, as the justification to form a multi-agency spy operation (given the Orwellian designation of an “inter-agency taskforce”) on the Trump campaign, which he was running right out of CIA headquarters.


https://spectator.org/john-brennans-plo ... -campaign/


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23 May 2018, 12:58 am

I wouldn't trust a single thing that orange flimflam man says. And from what I understand, the Spectator is hardly an unbiased source on political or cultural matters.


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