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28 Feb 2018, 5:09 am

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ideally something would have been done before that has a chance to happen.

it appears.... :chin: that an armed individual may have an easier time with this.

When they broke into my house two years ago, there was no individual, armed or otherwise. They were patient. They surreptitiously watched me come and go. They knew when I would be at work. They broke in when they knew nobody was home. What use is a gun with nobody to wield it?

Breaking in when no one is home is a common habit for burglars, for obvious reasons.


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28 Feb 2018, 5:17 am

in your case, probably nil.


i think lovenothate was talking about home invasion instances where there's someone actually in there.

....usually not done by criminals with two brain cells to rub together, yes, but most people with grey matter worth mentioning don't end up as criminals anyway. (or do they? this is probably something for another thread altogether)

my mom has told me that she's gotten suspicious "observers", people hanging around trying to see if someone was home, when she was home alone. usually when me and my father are away and there's no cars in the driveway so it looks like it's vacant. and there are no lights on.

it's not always obvious


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28 Feb 2018, 5:22 am

A few criminals are smart. My burglar was. He didn't smash the door or the window, he knew how to get through the lock without breaking it. He wore gloves too. No prints. Just my like to get a reasonably intelligent burglar.

Really I think it's a mistake to say all criminals are dumb because it leaves you more vulnerable to a criminal who isn't dumb. Never underestimate your enemy.


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28 Feb 2018, 5:27 am

i can buy that.


whatever it is that drives people to do it, though, i hope never happens to me.


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28 Feb 2018, 5:29 am

There was a B&E a few years ago when two burglars would go around during the day and ring doorbells to see if anyone was home. If no response they'd break into from the back. They did it with one house and there was someone home, he just didnt answer the door.

Both burglars were armed. The guy shot both of them killing one on the spot and the other was gut shot and later arrested at an emergency room when he staggered in bleeding.


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28 Feb 2018, 7:51 am

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...Addionally, in the past, the Republican Party has restricted freedom by:

...Discriminating against homosexuals....

Well, yes, but former U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_ ... gal_career ) helped challenge Proposition 8, a California state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in 2009, and by doing so, laid the groundwork for marriage equality to win at the U.S. Supreme Court.


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28 Feb 2018, 4:05 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
ideally something would have been done before that has a chance to happen.

it appears.... :chin: that an armed individual may have an easier time with this.

When they broke into my house two years ago, there was no individual, armed or otherwise. They were patient. They surreptitiously watched me come and go. They knew when I would be at work. They broke in when they knew nobody was home. What use is a gun with nobody to wield it?

Breaking in when no one is home is a common habit for burglars, for obvious reasons.


Most break ins here happen at night when people are home asleep.
And what about the non burglar break in

Like where exes break in to hurt their ex who left them

Like this case in Oregon where due to budget cuts there were no police to send

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“I don’t have anybody to send out there,” the operator said. “You know, obviously, if he comes inside the residence and assaults you, can you ask him to go away.”
Minutes later, court documents obtained by NPR said, Michael Bellah broke into the woman’s Josephine County, Ore., home and choked and sexually assaulted her.


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Bellah later pleaded guilty to kidnapping, assault and sex abuse related to the August 2012 incident, according to Think Progress. The story is making headlines now because this week, Josephine County residents narrowly defeated a ballot measure that may have prevented tragedies like this one.

Think Progress reports that, because of steep budget cuts at the federal and county level, “deputies are only available eight hours a day, Monday through Friday. The woman’s desperate call came on a Saturday. The county dispatcher transferred her call to state police, but at the time of the crime, there were no state troopers available to help.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/ ... 26631.html

Same case

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No one answers the phone at the sheriff’s office.

“Due to budgetary constraints,” says a recorded voice, “we are only able to answer the phone from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.”




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After having to fire 23 deputies after the 2012-2013 budget was passed was in July, Gilbertson issued a press release suggesting domestic violence victims “consider relocating to an area with adequate law enforcement services.’

Less than a month later, a woman called 911, saying her ex-boyfriend was trying to break into her house.

The call came in at 4:58 a.m. on a Saturday. The strapped Josephine County sheriff’s deputies are only available Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m.


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Michael Bellah, the former boyfriend, did not go away.

“I’ve already told him I was calling you,” the woman tells the dispatcher. “He’s broken in before, busted down my door, assaulted me.”

The dispatcher tells the woman to hide somewhere in the house.

“It’s unfortunate you guys don’t have any law enforcement out there,” the dispatcher then says.


My sheriff department has also had to let lots of deputies go, atleast they haven’t limited their hours and we still have city police though still takes 10 mins on average for police to arrive. Could you imagine someone breaking in to kill yiu and be told there’s no help to send.



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28 Feb 2018, 7:17 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
in your case, probably nil.


i think lovenothate was talking about home invasion instances where there's someone actually in there.

....usually not done by criminals with two brain cells to rub together, yes, but most people with grey matter worth mentioning don't end up as criminals anyway. (or do they? this is probably something for another thread altogether)

my mom has told me that she's gotten suspicious "observers", people hanging around trying to see if someone was home, when she was home alone. usually when me and my father are away and there's no cars in the driveway so it looks like it's vacant. and there are no lights on.

it's not always obvious


Guys...
Simple solution...
Get a couple of Dobermans... :mrgreen:



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28 Feb 2018, 9:52 pm

Pepe wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
in your case, probably nil.


i think lovenothate was talking about home invasion instances where there's someone actually in there.

....usually not done by criminals with two brain cells to rub together, yes, but most people with grey matter worth mentioning don't end up as criminals anyway. (or do they? this is probably something for another thread altogether)

my mom has told me that she's gotten suspicious "observers", people hanging around trying to see if someone was home, when she was home alone. usually when me and my father are away and there's no cars in the driveway so it looks like it's vacant. and there are no lights on.

it's not always obvious


Guys...
Simple solution...
Get a couple of Dobermans... :mrgreen:

And make sure they're armed to the teeth!


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28 Feb 2018, 10:49 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
in your case, probably nil.


i think lovenothate was talking about home invasion instances where there's someone actually in there.

....usually not done by criminals with two brain cells to rub together, yes, but most people with grey matter worth mentioning don't end up as criminals anyway. (or do they? this is probably something for another thread altogether)

my mom has told me that she's gotten suspicious "observers", people hanging around trying to see if someone was home, when she was home alone. usually when me and my father are away and there's no cars in the driveway so it looks like it's vacant. and there are no lights on.

it's not always obvious


Guys...
Simple solution...
Get a couple of Dobermans... :mrgreen:

And make sure they're armed to the teeth!


Or at least pinch really, really hard... :mrgreen:



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01 Mar 2018, 10:49 am

I don’t like dogs. And I can’t carry a Doberman around in my pocket



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01 Mar 2018, 11:37 am

The world is not like a Charles Bronson movie. Not everybody is out to "get" somebody.

I don't carry a gun, or even a knife. And I live in New York City.



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01 Mar 2018, 11:40 am

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I don’t like dogs. And I can’t carry a Doberman around in my pocket


What is it about dogs you don't like?


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01 Mar 2018, 3:58 pm

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sly279 wrote:
I don’t like dogs. And I can’t carry a Doberman around in my pocket


What is it about dogs you don't like?


Yeah Sly! Why u no like doggies?

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01 Mar 2018, 5:18 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The world is not like a Charles Bronson movie. Not everybody is out to "get" somebody.

I don't carry a gun, or even a knife. And I live in New York City.

Because you can’t carry a gun or knife by law.

Not everyone is no but there are people out to get you. You also won’t likely have a fire but they happen so everyone has smoke alarms and fire extinguishers



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01 Mar 2018, 5:20 pm

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sly279 wrote:
I don’t like dogs. And I can’t carry a Doberman around in my pocket


What is it about dogs you don't like?

They cover in germs, poop everywhere and worse of them all they lick you ewww.

I’ll stick with cats, thebpoop in cat litter atleast, don’t lick you and aren’t covered in germs. Oh and dogs smell too.
My family has a dog that loves me I call him my distance dog as I won’t touch him.