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07 Apr 2018, 2:47 pm

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Ok Bill so you understand that. It is the same for the Palestinians. The difference is, this is happening now. Injustice can be stopped. We live in an age now where the truth can be spread very quickly and there is a chance to stop people dying whether it is moron Trump or puppet Obama in charge.

As a matter of fact, I've expressed a great deal of sympathy for the Palestinian people. I just think the kleptocracy of the Palestinian Authority, and the violent fanatics of Hamas aren't help their people anymore than the Israelis are.
But trust me, I sincerely hope for the best for both the Palestinians and the Israelis.

Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

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07 Apr 2018, 2:49 pm

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African Americans also refused to accept second class citizenship, and were denied the same quality of life. The difference between Black Americans and Palestinians is, black organizations largely depended on peaceful, passive resistance to gain success, whereas Palestinians have too often depended on violence and terror, which has gained them less than desirable results at best.

That's true that the triumph of the Black American Civil Rights movement was mainly due to a campaign of nonviolence.

However ...ever hear of an American named "George Washington"?

He freed the US from British colonialism not through nonviolence, but by leading a "local war of national liberation" (to use the twentieth century term) much like that of the Palestinians.

Palestinians have tried being non violent too.

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07 Apr 2018, 3:06 pm

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

I am critical of the PA and Hamas, not the Palestinian people.
Most Black Americans never had to depend on the Black Panthers. That, and the Black Panthers organization never has been in any political power.

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07 Apr 2018, 3:37 pm

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people. Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

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07 Apr 2018, 5:40 pm

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

I'm willing to admit that the Black Panther Party may have made the problem worse in some ways.

They were well-intentioned, but they openly supported Maoism. That wasn't a good idea.

The people who give up on black integration and instead promote black separatism never make the situation any better. They only reinforce the pseudoscientific belief that skin color determines a person's overall character.

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07 Apr 2018, 5:47 pm

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Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people.

Bollocks.

America voted for Sanders and got Clinton. Then, America voted for Clinton and got Trump.

You are overestimating Palestinian democracy.

Was there any anti-corruption legislation in Palestine at the time? If not, the election could have easily been rigged.

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Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

Hamas certainly has a certain degree of power. That's why so many people fear their wrath.

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07 Apr 2018, 7:51 pm

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people. Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

Seriously? Hamas and the PA have no power? Funny how they have their own police forces, and even armed fighters!
Just because people vote for a leader or a party doesn't make them responsible for what the election winners do with that power. No more than the German people were responsible for the Holocaust or WWII.

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08 Apr 2018, 5:07 am

Okay, let's get back on topic. I made this thread in order to prove that anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are BS. Here is some more evidence that supports my point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League#Relations_with_other_groups

Anti-Semites claim that Jews are responsible for the current Western migrant crisis ... except that the JDL, which is probably the most extreme pro-Jewish organisation on the planet, has voiced support for the English Defense League, Geert Wilders, and the Freedom Party of Australia. In other words, the Jewish far-right is, for the most part, a supporter of the European far right ... aside from the European far-right organisations that engage in anti-Semitism.

I'm very glad that this site is turning into a bastion of reason and logic, but I want the reason and logic to spread.

Here is my advice to the people reading this thread: Take the info that I have provided in this thread and go confront the anti-Semitic conspiracy nuts that hang around on other sites. They are ruining social progress because they take perfectly sensible leftist theory and replace "corporate lobbyists" with "Jews" ... just as Hitler did. As a result, a lot of normies look at the political science of Noam Chomsky and dismiss it as anti-Semitism. In other words, this racist nonsense is ruining leftism. Be a warrior of reason and logic. Shut that crap down whenever you see it.

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08 Apr 2018, 12:56 pm

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I did not know the JDL was so nativist, especially considering how their ancestors were the clear targets of nativists in the 19th and 20th centuries.

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08 Apr 2018, 1:05 pm

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I did not know the JDL was so nativist, especially considering how their ancestors were the clear targets of nativists in the 19th and 20th centuries.

They see it as "fighting fire with fire".

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09 Apr 2018, 1:32 pm

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Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people.

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Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

Hamas certainly has a certain degree of power. That's why so many people fear their wrath.

That's completely irrelevant. And no, they voted for Trump, that's why he won. The US doesn't have a popular vote system.

I think Israel rigged the election to give them a good excuse to punish the people of Gaza.

Not as much as they fear Israel's. Hamas are just the prison guards.

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09 Apr 2018, 1:33 pm

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JohnPowell wrote:

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people. Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

They are just the prison guards and the PA are just Israel's birches. Israel controls the West Bank and Gaza.

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09 Apr 2018, 1:38 pm

Get loads of Muslims into Europe while attacking Muslims countries, Muslims attack people in Europe. People in Europe support wars against Muslim countries and support Israel.

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09 Apr 2018, 1:48 pm

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Nope. What you do is blame the victims every single time. When you talk about black people being victimised in the US you don't blame the Black Panthers for it.

Yeah sure. They voted for those groups so you are critical of the Palestinian people. Hamas or the PA have no power either. Israel control Gaza and the West Bank.

They are just the prison guards and the PA are just Israel's birches. Israel controls the West Bank and Gaza.

Never heard of a prison where the prisoners are allowed to lob bombs at their jailers.

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10 Apr 2018, 1:52 pm

What bombs? Hamas keep the people of Gaza in line for their own means. They let people resist against the Israelis. They have the right to resist.

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10 Apr 2018, 5:57 pm

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What bombs? Hamas keep the people of Gaza in line for their own means. They let people resist against the Israelis. They have the right to resist.

I think he means suicide bombers and rockets.

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