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28 Sep 2018, 5:29 pm
AspieUtah wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I guess you have a point when it comes to women. My Mom had to buy a handgun to protect herself because she was having problems with an abusive ex-husband who was stalking her and threatening her. A gun is the only way a small female can really protect herself against a much larger man.
And I suppose you're right about the stabbings and beatings in Japan. If people want to kill somebody they're going to find a way to do it with or without guns. So I guess in the end it's pretty pointless to try and prevent murder.
But I really don't think armed teachers are enough to protect students. What we need is professional guards with actual training when it comes to dealing with armed criminals. Teachers are trained to teach, not stop homicidal maniacs from shooting up the school.
Oh and for the record I DO love my country and it really angers me when anyone suggests otherwise just because I disagree with their opinion. Nobody will EVER tell me to leave my own country just because I have a problem with some of the things we do here.
And I suppose you're right about the stabbings and beatings in Japan. If people want to kill somebody they're going to find a way to do it with or without guns. So I guess in the end it's pretty pointless to try and prevent murder.
But I really don't think armed teachers are enough to protect students. What we need is professional guards with actual training when it comes to dealing with armed criminals. Teachers are trained to teach, not stop homicidal maniacs from shooting up the school.
Oh and for the record I DO love my country and it really angers me when anyone suggests otherwise just because I disagree with their opinion. Nobody will EVER tell me to leave my own country just because I have a problem with some of the things we do here.
Actually, in my state at least, a concealed-firearm permit course involves actual shooting, advice about shooting, the relevant laws (what is lethal force, etc.). And most educators with CFPs immediately sign up for tactical training because: 1) they enjoy their new sport, and 2) want to be as careful and accurate and possible, especially with students around. In Utah, we call the mothers and armed teachers of students "mama grizzlys."
Women are notoriously accurate (see Annie Oakley) and can drop a man like nobody's business!
I had a friend who completed his CFP training not because he wanted the permit or a firearm, but to "get over" his fear of firearms. It worked, and he was a pretty good shot, too! You might want to explore the sport with a beginners class.
I gotta admit that is pretty cool to know. My Mom took shooting lessons too and she's pretty good at it. She actually owns three handguns herself. She used to be against them too but when she was having problems with her ex husband a psychiatrist explained to her that a gun is the best protection a woman can have.
But I just don't think I would ever be OK with learning to shoot or having a gun. Like I said I have a real mental illness and I'm against the idea of people who are mentally ill having guns. And if I ever went off my medicine and I completely snapped and decided to shoot somebody I would never be able to live with myself. I would hope that I was given the death penalty for it even though I know we don't execute murderers with a proven mental illness.
Yep, at the moment you need defense, you will be glad you have it. Even 'tweens have watched their parents get attacked, ran to where the firearm is kept, returned to face down and incapacitated the attacker. One 11-year-old girl protected her younger brother alone with their parents' firearm while 9-1-1 advised the girl to shoot IF the man broke their bedroom door. He did, she did, and two kids are still alive.
Yes, I am sorry to suggest taking a firearm class. My mistake. I apologize. Your mother sounds like a Mama Grizzly to me!
I once had a crazy junky break into our house while my Mom was staying in Georgia and I hid in my bedroom terrified with a knife all night because if they came into my room I was prepared to defend myself.
But then one time I got into a physical fight with my Mom's ex-husband and after that I realized that I am a very physically weak person (us guys can be weak no matter how large we are if we don't work out which I never do lol).
Maybe I need to try and exercise and build muscle or even take a self defense class so that if I'm ever in trouble I can protect myself.
If you are unarmed, call 9-1-1 if you can, then shout to the attacker in the loudest, most angry, voice you have, "I AM ARMED AND I WILL SHOOT," and find the nearest baseball or cricket bat (they are universally legal and frightening to anybody of any height and weight). The knife you got is a good idea, but requires you to get up close and personal, where a bat gives you some room to swing from a distance.
Lol my Mom also told me that I should have called 911 but I had called her instead because I have a really bad habit of calling her during an emergency. I guess I'm scared to call 911 because I've never done it before but believe me I will next time if somebody ever breaks into my house again.
And I think I'll try your advice next time something like that happens. Thanks!
Oh, I hope it doesn't happen again!
Yeah, calling 9-1-1 can get law enforcement officers and others to you faster. Just stay on the line, and they will tell you what you need to do.
One of the mothers in my local community called the police for assistance with her suicidal son a little over a couple of years ago. The result ? One of the cops SHOT her son THREE TIMES, filed a false police report, claiming that he was trying to attack his mother with a knife. I inquired with both the mother and her son (separately), and their accounts of what happened were in concordance, and neither she nor he make any claims of him ever pointing the knife towards his mother. The son was held in jail for several months in a row until arraignment.
During that time, because of damage to his body, a time came when he was urinating blood (probably as a result of internal-injuries from being SHOT a few times by a COP). They (the mother and the son) tried to get a medical-release, but the court refused to even accept the hospital-papers that proved the existence of internal-injuries. Then the son was rail-roaded, threatened with 50 YEARS of prison if he didn't take a plea-bargain, but was also promised only 25 years of prison (YEARS mind you) if he would take a plea-bargain. Due to the intimidation-tactics making him frightened enough to accept the plea-bargain, a restraining order between him and his mother was issued, and she is now NO longer allowed to communicate with him nor vice-versa. Basically... this mother is NEVER going to be able to see or hear from her son again because of how «broken» the «system» in the U.S.S.A. has become. This happened to a 21-year-old boy.
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28 Sep 2018, 8:23 pm
AspieUtah wrote:
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
No thanks to all the above
Many would say aspire can’t own guns or anyone with any conditions, drink lots of coffee well your addicted so no guns for you. Hell your side says just wanting to own guns is a mental illness and so anyone who wants a gun wouldn’t be allowed to have one.
Why don’t you move to japan then. Oh wait they don’t like non Japanese there and you’d have to death with the organized crime problem and super high suicide rate.
Many would say aspire can’t own guns or anyone with any conditions, drink lots of coffee well your addicted so no guns for you. Hell your side says just wanting to own guns is a mental illness and so anyone who wants a gun wouldn’t be allowed to have one.
Why don’t you move to japan then. Oh wait they don’t like non Japanese there and you’d have to death with the organized crime problem and super high suicide rate.
Yeah you are so right. If I'm wanting things to change in my own country for what I think is best then I'm some kind of evil traitor who doesn't even love my own country and I should just abandon it and move somewhere else.
That was sarcasm btw.
You want to ruin the nation and force hundreds of millions of people to live how you want using force.
How’d you like it if I wanted to make it so everyone had to own a gun or go to prison bet you’d be against that
I don't hear those claims coming from TW1ZTY. He flagged his comments with a "sarcasm" note.
TW1ZTY wrote:
Doing thorough background checks on the people who buy guns, making sure people cannot purchase or own a gun without a permit, not allowing people with a severe mental illness like Bipolar Disorder or Schizophrenia or people with a criminal history to own firearms, increasing more security in our schools to protect our children, and I think that's pretty much it.
Hell to be frank I wouldn't mind if guns were made completely illegal like over in Japan. They don't have problems like kids bringing guns to school to shoot up other kids because they're not as easy to obtain over there as they are here. Besides why do we even need the right for civilians to own firearms anymore? We made that law when we were fighting the British for control of our country because we did not have an actual military at the time and we were relying on a militia of farmers and hunters. Now we have one of the greatest militaries in the world and our government is so powerful that we don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of overthrowing them even if we really wanted to or had a good reason to.
I think it's just an obsolete amendment. That's my honest opinion.
Hell to be frank I wouldn't mind if guns were made completely illegal like over in Japan. They don't have problems like kids bringing guns to school to shoot up other kids because they're not as easy to obtain over there as they are here. Besides why do we even need the right for civilians to own firearms anymore? We made that law when we were fighting the British for control of our country because we did not have an actual military at the time and we were relying on a militia of farmers and hunters. Now we have one of the greatest militaries in the world and our government is so powerful that we don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of overthrowing them even if we really wanted to or had a good reason to.
I think it's just an obsolete amendment. That's my honest opinion.
He also mentioned wanting psychological evaluations to buy a gun. To which surely we’d be disqualified since we have autism and other disorders.
It was this I responded to saying if he likes japan so much he should move there instead of trying to make USA into japan.
Also the bill of rights was pass after we defeated the British and was intended to be used against future tranical us government.
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29 Sep 2018, 12:07 am
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
And you know something else? I will NEVER leave this country! People like me have just as much right to live here as people like you and I hope it annoys you every day knowing that you won't be able to get rid of us and have this country all to yourself!
I don’t want to get rid of anyone I just want my rights and me left alone.
No I think what you really want is for everybody to agree with you and see things your way. If they don't then they all need to move to Japan right?
29 Sep 2018, 12:58 am
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
And you know something else? I will NEVER leave this country! People like me have just as much right to live here as people like you and I hope it annoys you every day knowing that you won't be able to get rid of us and have this country all to yourself!
I don’t want to get rid of anyone I just want my rights and me left alone.
No I think what you really want is for everybody to agree with you and see things your way. If they don't then they all need to move to Japan right?
I want me and my rights left alone
No gun control zero . We have too many as is. I’m tired of constantly being under attack day after day living in fear that tomorrow will be the day the antis get what they want and I either end up dead or in prison for doing nothing more then using my god given rights protected under the constitution.
I’m done talking with you
29 Sep 2018, 7:23 am
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
And you know something else? I will NEVER leave this country! People like me have just as much right to live here as people like you and I hope it annoys you every day knowing that you won't be able to get rid of us and have this country all to yourself!
I don’t want to get rid of anyone I just want my rights and me left alone.
No I think what you really want is for everybody to agree with you and see things your way. If they don't then they all need to move to Japan right?
I want me and my rights left alone
No gun control zero . We have too many as is. I’m tired of constantly being under attack day after day living in fear that tomorrow will be the day the antis get what they want and I either end up dead or in prison for doing nothing more then using my god given rights protected under the constitution.
I’m done talking with you
Good because I'm done talking to you too!
And you know something else? I already started to agree that maybe gun rights aren't so bad so I guess that means the joke is really on you.
29 Sep 2018, 9:42 am
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