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VegetableMan wrote:
No problem with criticizing Trump. I just don't understand why very few on this sites bash the Democrats. They are, after all, pretty much responsible for putting Trump in office. Very confusing to me.
Well, with a little help from Putin.
Some would say that's just a red herring the democrats came up with to dodge culpability.
Why would staunch Republicans like Comey and Mueller think the same thing as the Democrats?
I'd say Mueller is doing what he was assigned to do regardless of his political affiliation or personal thoughts. Comey too originally. Although he's probably personally angry at Trump now and has an axe to grind. Maybe Mueller does too on behalf of Comey.
Yes, Mueller, and Comey before him, are only doing their jobs. And Trump is certainly running scared and displaying conscientiousness of guilt because of it.
Well you asked why a staunch republican like Mueller would be perusing a red herring set up by the democrats, and my answer is because that was his assignment. So that doesn't seem to detract from the hypothesis that the collusion with russia business is a red herring. How trump is reacting to it ie running scared and displaying guilt is a matter of interpretation. It seems a foregone conclusion that those who are heavily biased against trump are certainly likely to see it that way.
The indictments and convictions Mueller has gotten on Trump's henchmen says it's more than a red herring. The Trump Tower meeting with Russian agents, and the fact that Trump seized the transcript from the translator for his private meeting with Putin certainly isn't helping him.
This has been going in circles for quite a long time. You bring up the same stuff you just mentioned and then me or someone else points out that the convictions had absolutely nothing to do with collusion with russia. All there has ever been in the way of evidence, in all this time is conjecture and innuendo. I expect that to be the same a week from now, a month from now and maybe forever.... All of which supports the hypothesis of a red herring. And Robert Mueller was given the thankless job of being put on a wild goose chase. Of course that's all conjecture too.
Those Trump henchmen who have been convicted like Flynn and Manafort all have had shadowy ties to Russia. As I've explained again and again, Mueller is getting leverage with these convictions to get them to roll over on Trump. And then there's the FBI investigation into Trump's overly cozy relationship with Putin.
You didn't address the Trump Tower meeting with Putin's agents, or Trump taking possession of the record kept by his translator when he met privately with Putin. These things makes one's eyebrows raise.
Sure they make eyebrows raise for some and eyes roll for others. It may all be true and trump will be found guilty. But so far after a long time now, as of now, there's still no evidence. And certainly no indictments actually tied to it. Just conjecture and innuendo. Think back on how guilty of this and that Hillary Clinton looks to so many, who are firmly convinced she belongs in prison. I'll bet you 20 imaginary bucks that 3 months from now the whole thing will basically be right where it is now. I think trump getting naild would be entertaining. Watergate in my time. But I'm not holding my breath.
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