Please don't offend snowflake boomers
Yeah it's weird, I didn't understand it. My brother said it a couple of times to my dad and I didn't like it.
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Sometimes one's experiences are no longer relevant and relying on them only results in spewing out-of-touch, objectively incorrect nonsense. That's a pretty suitable time for 'OK boomer', especially considering it's being aimed at the generation known for saying things like 'don't trust anyone over 30'.
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That's what my mom always said , paraphrased, because if you look at the Mughal dynasty, or Ottomans, the good kings/leadership were followed by bad (weak/overindulgent in themselves/spoiled) kings and then really cruel, oppressive ones, and cycles like that. The leaders affected everyone else drastically. That's why she doesn't believe in royalty.
You even see it now, with the 'Crown Prince' who my son's therapist said is 'completely kookoo bonkers' (my son's therapist worked with royals of that area's special needs kids, and met many of these people, she said a great many of them are addicted to heroin too).
And the king prior was great, everyone loved him, he did so much (for everyone inc women, contrary to western thought) and then he became senile and signed whatever he was told to sign. And one of them was apparently the best one (the one Muhammad Asad was with, in his book Road to Mecca) and it was cycles like that. And this one is such a spoiled and immoral and mentally disturbed individual.
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i like monarchies. i like the idea of an unpolitical figurehead who can step in whenever the PM or such goes awry and i like the inherent sense of continuity that comes with monarchies
i wonder if thailand will keep theirs for long.
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in that one case, as a backstop for a democracy, a master reference that automatically enters the picture when our democratic organs become corrupted by money, i could handle it.
For Saudi, Monarchy was imposed and put in BY the British who entirely betrayed and intended to betray (openly) Arabs and set up for the amount of conflicts we see now ( it's glossed over in basic world history anyway).
My meaning is, monarchy in that way wasn't a real monarchy, it was intended to split up regions and divide and (eventually) conquer. Zionism drove them, etc. So it wasn't good in that sense, but then I wonder whether that is real monarchy, since it is unique as it is something that the Arabs had NO say in. In fact they went tO UN to put forth an argument but of course had no power to say anything, once they realized what was really going on (e.g. genocides by influx of foreigners etc)
My mom has been wrong in most things in my experience, though the logic is faultless, things never works out in reality the way she thinks in her head, since human beings aren't like math equations. so I'm inclined to think the opposite must be true.
My grandfather's brother said he used to believe in democracy all his life but now he strongly believes it to be a farce, and that rulers should come back chosen by each other (one good ruler chooses another) or family (as in royalty) lines, as in theory democracy sounds great
But in reality in countries like Pak, where the majority are uneducated and impoverished, there has been so much corruption regarding this (e.g. elections set up in advance, as happened with Nawaz Sharif before Imran Khan exposed it) as well as misunderstandings (easily brainwashed), much more, and it ends up working against the people most of the time.
When my ___ (wont say the relation) took over he brought down corruption at an unprecedented level, and started the fight against a sudden influx of terrorists from India (arms provided) and Afgh, etc.
He was not voted in, it was an army takeover of a corrupt government (which incidentally, came back, with fake election, exposed by someone else) that was literally stealing money and taking it abroad.
Like my grandfather's brother said, the best times of the subcontinent in reality, for the everyday person (not the upper class), was when they were ruled by Mughals (royal dynasties). Even if Mughals were all over the place amongst themselves, it didn't affect the everyday person as negatively as this does, on so many levels. They also maintained via small governments (like townships), so their own back and forth drama wasn't bad for most of the country.
I don't have any opinion, but my brother thinks army coups are the most fun parts of history of any country, for writing about.
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You're not a young boomer, that's their slogan from back in the '60s.
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Don't trust anyone over 30, unless it's Jack Weinberg
In a news release recently distributed by a Chicago public relations agency – owned by his wife, it should be noted – Weinberg says he made the statement primarily to get rid of a reporter who was bothering him. He doesn’t even regard the statement as the most important thing he’s ever said.
“I was being interviewed by a newspaper reporter and he kept asking me who was ‘really’ behind the actions of students, implying that we were being directed behind the scenes by the Communists or some other sinister group,” Weinberg recalled.
“I told him we had a saying in the movement that we don’t trust anybody over 30. It was a way of telling the guy to back off, that nobody was pulling our strings.”
A columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle highlighted the quote and other newspapers across the country picked it up.
“It went from journalist to journalist, then leaders in the movement started using it because they saw the extent it shook up the older generation,” Weinberg said.
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We should remind ourselves of why the expression "don't trust anyone over 30" became popular at that time.
It all had to do with the war in Vietnam. This war was largely fought on the ground by young men who were conscripted for one-year tours of duty. It was probably the first "foreign policy" war which means there was no compelling reason for the US to engage there militarily except as a realization of foreign policy (not sure how similar the Korean War was in this regard). The mortality rate for US troops was quite high, so the US government was basically compelling innocent young men to possibly march to their deaths in support of abstract geopolitical objectives.
The cultural issue here is that previous generations that fought in WWII and Korea did not, for the most part, question the government's right to do this. So in principle, you had caskets arriving at Dover AFB containing the corpses of young men whose fathers sincerely believed their sons should have been in combat. So these young people felt as though the older generations had abandoned them. Once the threat of being sent against one's will to one's death in Vietnam went away, so did the idealism we associate with the 1960s. Which is why older boomers and younger boomers (or "Generation Jones" if you prefer) have such radically different world views and why it's so sad one group is usually confused with the other.
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A columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle highlighted the quote and other newspapers across the country picked it up.
“It went from journalist to journalist, then leaders in the movement started using it because they saw the extent it shook up the older generation,” Weinberg said.
This sounds quite a bit like OK boomer's life cycle.
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Triggered boomer below
Michael Levin: 'OK, Boomer.' Really?! -- Here's what needs to be said to the younger generations
I’m a boomer. Later generations look at us as a bunch of smug, self-satisfied types who rode rising stock and real estate markets to financial paradise and then yanked up the ladder so that younger people, drowning in college debt, were totally shut out of the American Dream.
oomers, repaying the compliment, tend to view those who followed us as self-absorbed, hand-crafted-mocha-latte-sipping, technology-obsessed, phone-staring, ridiculously tattooed, backwards-baseball-cap-wearing, layabouts whose greatest desire is to spend the rest of their lives smoking medical marijuana in their parents’ basements.
And of course, we’re all right.
I never cared one way or the other about all this intergenerational sniping … until now.
We boomers have put up with a lot of malarkey from self-congratulatory Gen Z types as they remake the world into something impersonal, intolerant, unrecognizable and all but unlivable, with their heads buried in their smartphones and their misguided conviction that there’s an app for everything that matters.
We tolerate their naiveté because we were young once, too. But we can’t even get through to them because their earbuds are cemented to their ears and they’re spending every waking moment staring, Narcissus-like, at their social media feeds.
Yet somehow that “OK, Boomer” thing put me over the edge.
I’m mad as hell at the younger generations. If you’re part of this group, I want to tell you why you’ve screwed up a perfectly great world, and just what you need to do next.
You spend your days staring into screens. By contrast, we make eye contact and therefore have empathy and real connection with other human beings.
You have hooking up. We have relationships.
You swipe right. We live right.
You have Apple watches, where all you do is look at your timelines. We have neighborhood watches, where we look out for each other.
You live to get likes. We live for love.
You have influencers. We have thinkers.
You have politicians. We had statesmen.
We make commitments. You rent your furniture.
We win awards for accomplishments. You expect participation ribbons just for showing up.
You have Facebook friends. We have real friends.
We have tolerance. You have cancel culture.
On college campuses, we had open discourse and free speech. Today, you have a McCarthyism of the left and “trigger words,” because any idea you don’t agree with sends you screaming for crayons and teddy bears.
We won the Cold War. You guys have never met a left-wing totalitarian dictator from Castro to Maduro who you didn’t like.
When it comes to personal finance, we balance our checkbooks. You don’t even know how much you spend at Starbucks. (Hint: a lot).
You have McJobs. We have careers.
Culture? Same thing. We have classic music from the 1960s and 1970s – the Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Motown legends, Billy Joel, Aerosmith, ZZ Top and many more. You have Billie Eilish and other whiny balladeers who can only write songs about how some dope you met in the club won’t return your texts.
OK, Gen Z’ers, I get it. You’re in a squeeze because of student loans, and, yes, it looks like our generation pulled up the ladder. But that’s just like you kids to play the victim card. In truth, every generation has it hard, just in different ways.
You actually have the benefit of disintermediation, a word that didn’t exist when we were your age.
On Amazon, Etsy, Fiver, Upwork, and other sites, you can sell your ideas, creations, books, and time to markets all over the planet without ever having to create a resume or get a job. By contrast, we had to prove ourselves to gatekeepers and bosses, working our way up slowly, instead of starting tech companies and becoming gazillionaires not long after hitting puberty.
Pro-tip, as you young folks like to say: The next time you see gray hair, think of it as a sign meaning “Information Center.” We boomers didn’t get where we are by hanging around coffee shops and staring at Instachat and Snapface.
We earned everything we have, from our careers to our marriages to our houses to our 401(k)s. And if you can get over your own youthful arrogance and ask us, we might just tell you how we did it.
I know what this guy earned OK BOOMER
You spend your days staring into screens. By contrast, we make eye contact and therefore have empathy and real connection with other human beings.
Autistic people existed in your day. You just did not know we existed or bullied us.
You have hooking up. We have relationships.
Are you sure you grew up in the 60s and 70s? Did you not hear about the sexual revolution, free love and disco?
You swipe right. We live right.
Gorging on food and drugs and alcohol is not living better than that millennial avocado thing.
You have Apple watches, where all you do is look at your timelines. We have neighborhood watches, where we look out for each other.
Apple Watches are a technology invented by boomers that people of all generations can't afford.
You live to get likes. We live for love.
You lived for money
The Yuppie Handbook
You have influencers. We have thinkers.
There were influencers boomers then and now. And about that thinking thing.
You have politicians. We had statesmen.
There are no words
We make commitments. You rent your furniture.
The divorce rate peaked in the 70s and early 80s
We win awards for accomplishments. You expect participation ribbons just for showing up.
Whose fault is that?
You have Facebook friends. We have real friends.
Facebook is a technology used by boomers more than Gen Z'rs these days.
We have tolerance.
Have you turned on the news anytime since the 80s when we gained power?
On college campuses, we had open discourse and free speech. Today, you have a McCarthyism of the left and “trigger words,” because any idea you don’t agree with sends you screaming for crayons and teddy bears.
Political correctness was instigated by boomer professors back in the 80s.
We won the Cold War. You guys have never met a left-wing totalitarian dictator from Castro to Maduro who you didn’t like.
It was our parents generation that won the Cold War.
When it comes to personal finance, we balance our checkbooks.
Are you kidding me?
You have McJobs. We have careers.
#Notallboomers. A lot of your peers have been messed up by the economy also.
Culture? Same thing. We have classic music from the 1960s and 1970s – the Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Motown legends, Billy Joel, Aerosmith, ZZ Top and many more.
Can't argue with that one.
Was I stereotyping, using extreme examples to attack a whole generation? Yeah, that is the whole point.
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