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14 Sep 2020, 8:18 am

Brictoria wrote:

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"I must repeat, what I have said many times before, it would be as wrong to speak of Aryan blood as of dolichocephalic grammar".

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

So, as early as 1888 the theory would have had to be well enough known for the need for it to be opposed.

Indoeuropeans are a lingusitic group consisting of people of various ancestry.
Nice to see there were scholars capable of seeing it even back in the 19th century.

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14 Sep 2020, 8:19 am

Composed of MANY past and present-day ethnic groups.

They run the gamut, really.

You can be Indian, Iranian (Persian), Slavic, Germanic, and Romantic (linguistically), and probably many others I haven't mentioned---and still be a Indo-European.

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14 Sep 2020, 8:32 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

That's why the term hence (Indo-european
The Proto Indo Europeans lived in west central Asia.Then some went west to Europe some went east to the Indian sub continent and some went south,I believe Berber's are PIE as well.

In India they do have the Dravidians who I believe are an eastern people related to the more Malaysia region.Some have said the Dravidians are distant relatives of Australian Aboriginals,I don't know if this is substantiated.

So in India there is some regions that are intermixed with Caucasian Indo-Iranian Indians and Eastern Asian peoples.

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14 Sep 2020, 9:47 am

Spread of Indo-European languages likely happened by both migration and language shift in pre-existing populations.

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14 Sep 2020, 11:14 am

Brictoria wrote:

Mr Reynholm wrote:

Wow. So being against child porn is now considered "Right Wing" One hardly has to try anymore.

Apparently it's only "creepy conservatives" who are against the file...

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The Creepy Conservative Obsession With Netflix’s Cuties, Explained

Likely, a political organization brain storms :"We can look relevant, and raise money on this issue".

So, they create the backlash, and hope enough people get swept into it.

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14 Sep 2020, 11:58 am

I'm very right-wing. But I know it. I'm proud of it. It gets me in trouble sometimes because so many people on here are leftist. I don't hate them for it, but it does make me mad. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I just try to stay out of politically-charged debates on here because it's not good for my emotional states, and it gets me very fired up. I've come across a few fellow conservatives on here. Shout out to all the right-wing aspies out there!! ! :heart:

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14 Sep 2020, 2:26 pm

I’m knowingly a radical centrist

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15 Sep 2020, 2:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I’m knowingly a radical centrist

My mom's a centrist too. But I still love her :lol:

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16 Sep 2020, 12:35 am

magz wrote:

Spread of Indo-European languages likely happened by both migration and language shift in pre-existing populations.

This is true, but what is contentious the original homeland of PIE

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16 Sep 2020, 12:40 am

vermontsavant wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

The Berbers speak Afro-Asiatic languages relating to semitic.

The dravidians are genetically a very ancient form of caucasians (despite their appearance) and people from Pakistan/Afghanistan right down to Sri Lanka are predominantly dravidian origin (or what's called ancestral south indian).

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16 Sep 2020, 12:44 am

Brictoria wrote:

Carried to an extreme, "critical race theory" could potentially be used as a basis for a similar outcome as the "Aryan master race" theory was ("this group of people are evil/subhuman and cannot be redeemed, and so what is wrong with getting rid of them").

Are you indirectly suggesting the Nazism as a philosophy has redeemable qualities

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16 Sep 2020, 12:48 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:

Wow. So being against child porn is now considered "Right Wing" One hardly has to try anymore.

There's a lot of assumptions going on in this thread. The author of that opinion piece used the word "right wing" but most people (at least on the left) don't see this as a political issue.

Brody as a movie/arts critic has chosen to use the label but has incorrectly not substantiated his belief with evidence,

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16 Sep 2020, 1:32 am

cyberdad wrote:

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kraftiekortie wrote:

Your right about the Berber's but not the Dravidian's.Some Dravidian's did go west and influence the Indo-Iranian languages but there is no connection between Dravidian languages in there origin to any Aryan or Indo-Iranian.

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16 Sep 2020, 5:07 am

vermontsavant wrote:

.Some Dravidian's did go west and influence the Indo-Iranian languages but there is no connection between Dravidian languages in there origin to any Aryan or Indo-Iranian.

Sorry I didn't clarify

A paper by Reich from Harvard on the genetic history of India found Indians are a mix of ancestral north Indian or ANI (found in the present population of Indo-European speakers in Pakistan, Afghanistan and North India) and ancestral south Indian or ASI (the dravidian population of south india).

However all south Asians are genetically predominantly made up of the ASI except it becomes more dilute as you go further into Iran or central Asia. Essentially a Indo-European speaking brown skinned Indian or Pakistani is genetically the same as a dravidian speaking brown skinned south Indian.

An illustration how language doesn't necessarily mean race. For example the Finns, Hungarians and Turks speak a central asiatic language but they are 90-95% European.

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16 Sep 2020, 5:44 am

cyberdad wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

.Some Dravidian's did go west and influence the Indo-Iranian languages but there is no connection between Dravidian languages in there origin to any Aryan or Indo-Iranian.

There is no doubt that centuries of inter breeding have much of Persia and the Indian sub-continent a mix of east Asian and Indo-Iranian culture and language.

The the Turk's were likely an exiled Mongol tribe like the Hun's maybe related to the Xiongnu but have live in the Anatolian peninsula since the 15 century and are heavily Europeanized.I think the Finn's and the Magyar's who are the relatives of modern Hungary came from the Ural mountain region in eastern Russia.

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16 Sep 2020, 6:29 am

vermontsavant wrote:

There is no doubt that centuries of inter breeding have much of Persia and the Indian sub-continent a mix of east Asian and Indo-Iranian culture and language.

If you take the analogy that dravidian DNA is like coffee, Iranian is milk and east asian is tea then almost all south Asians are coffee except it contains more milk as you further north and becomes rather milky when you enter Iran and as you enter the himalayas, north-eastern India and central Asia the milk is more mixed with tea and less coffee.

vermontsavant wrote:

The the Turk's were likely an exiled Mongol tribe like the Hun's maybe related to the Xiongnu but have live in the Anatolian peninsula since the 15 century and are heavily Europeanized.I think the Finn's and the Magyar's who are the relatives of modern Hungary came from the Ural mountain region in eastern Russia.

The Turks and Tatars were indeed turko-mongol tribes, but over centuries they absorbed inhabitants of the populations they ruled by taking the children as tribute to fight as soldiers (Turks called them Jannisaries).

The Finns mixed with paleolithic scandanavian Europeans while the Huns absorbed German and Slavic tribes that lived in central Europe.

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