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17 Feb 2021, 4:39 am

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Perhaps because they actually "try" and practice christianity....perhaps the editors of Babylon bee might do well to spend less time publishing unfunny hate/spiteful humour and pray for their souls.

Don't confuse Christianity with niceness. The article that got panties in a twist is neither unfunny or spiteful, and was likely deliberately misreported to manufacture outrage and generate clicks. It is not racist, in fact it mocks the (well-intended) racism of anti-racist fanatics.

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17 Feb 2021, 4:50 am

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It is not racist, in fact it mocks the (well-intended) racism of anti-racist fanatics.

I tend to find the people who spend a disproportionate time mocking anti-racists might be trying to suppress their own little secrets.

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17 Feb 2021, 5:17 am

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It is not racist, in fact it mocks the (well-intended) racism of anti-racist fanatics.

That sounds like a sentence to describe an old racist joke, meant to poke fun at people fighting against racism by showing them being attacked by 'thugs' that they are trying to protect. And then wondering why people are saying that their joke was racist.

A lot of those articles mentioned seem pretty mean spirited. Like calling out an imagined hypocrisy that Disney should hire her because she is a minority. I personally take offense to jokes meant to poke fun at identifying as a different gender with other added traits, it shows an incredibly lazy grasp of comedy in punching down.

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17 Feb 2021, 5:18 am

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I tend to find the people who spend a disproportionate time mocking anti-racists might be trying to suppress their own little secrets.

I thought that trope worked the other way. It's said those who are virulently anti-gay are harbouring certain tendencies... so those who are anti-racist are...?

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17 Feb 2021, 5:28 am

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No surprises where Brictoria gets his news

Of course not: I always post links so people can see...

That article just happened to be on the page where I was sourcing a lighthearted addition to another thread that I remember someone sending me some months back, and I thought people in this thread could do with some humour to lighten the atmosphere

Oh ok....

I'm surprised you didn't remember, given you posted in the thread a few minutes after I had added the link, too...

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17 Feb 2021, 5:36 am

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I thought that trope worked the other way. It's said those who are virulently anti-gay are harbouring certain tendencies... so those who are anti-racist are...?

Occam's Razor over what people who go after people who go after racism. The simplest answer would be that they might harbor some racist ideas themselves.

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17 Feb 2021, 5:39 am

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Not quite the case. The satirical article was a response to the CEO of Chick-fil-A suggesting that white people should shine black people's shoes as some sort of gesture. Which is about as sensible an idea for correcting racism as the following:

- Black people should go door to door performing in whiteface
- White people should pick cotton on black-owned plantations and learn negro spirituals
- Bring back Jim Crow style racial segregation to keep whites out of black areas (the main joke of the babylonbee article)

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17 Feb 2021, 5:41 am

Bradleigh wrote:

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I thought that trope worked the other way. It's said those who are virulently anti-gay are harbouring certain tendencies... so those who are anti-racist are...?

Occam's Razor over what people who go after people who go after racism. The simplest answer would be that they might harbor some racist ideas themselves.

Perhaps. Do you not subscribe to the idea that anti-gay people are likely secretly gay themselves? I don't actually believe it myself, but that is still the trope.

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17 Feb 2021, 6:01 am

Mikah wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

I tend to find the people who spend a disproportionate time mocking anti-racists might be trying to suppress their own little secrets.

I thought that trope worked the other way. It's said those who are virulently anti-gay are harbouring certain tendencies... so those who are anti-racist are...?

Well not quite

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17 Feb 2021, 6:02 am

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I thought that trope worked the other way. It's said those who are virulently anti-gay are harbouring certain tendencies... so those who are anti-racist are...?

Occam's Razor over what people who go after people who go after racism. The simplest answer would be that they might harbor some racist ideas themselves.

Perhaps. Do you not subscribe to the idea that anti-gay people are likely secretly gay themselves? I don't actually believe it myself, but that is still the trope.

Dude its not the same thing??

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17 Feb 2021, 6:13 am

There's no need for such strenuous denials. It's ok if you are a bit racist cyberdad, we will accept you.

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17 Feb 2021, 6:21 am

Mikah wrote:

Bradleigh wrote:

Occam's Razor over what people who go after people who go after racism. The simplest answer would be that they might harbor some racist ideas themselves.

Perhaps. Do you not subscribe to the idea that anti-gay people are likely secretly gay themselves? I don't actually believe it myself, but that is still the trope.

I do think that some people that protest too much can often be in denial to their own nature. If a religious Christian man is yelling against people being allowed to be gay or trans, because they think that any man would be tempted to give into big dong or present as a woman if given the choice, they might not be cis het while a cis het person would not think about that. I understand from personal experience what denial can be like and the thoughts that everyone secretly thinks that sort of queer way.

But I don't think that was the sort of thing being talked about. Unless we are maybe talking about people go against anti-racists because they think that racism does not really exist, and are under some mind that everyone just secretly thinks that way.

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17 Feb 2021, 12:34 pm

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There's no need for such strenuous denials. It's ok if you are a bit racist cyberdad, we will accept you.

Trying to make anti racists out to be racist seems to be a gotcha to me. You do realize they do want people to be anti racist and anti racism means calling it out when you see it, not normalize racism, not be all silent about it when it happens.

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17 Feb 2021, 2:30 pm

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There's no need for such strenuous denials. It's ok if you are a bit racist cyberdad, we will accept you.

Doesn't work that way Mikah and you know it.

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17 Feb 2021, 2:38 pm

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I do think that some people that protest too much can often be in denial to their own nature.

But I don't think that was the sort of thing being talked about. Unless we are maybe talking about people go against anti-racists because they think that racism does not really exist, and are under some mind that everyone just secretly thinks that way.

Don't listen to him. Some of the most vocal opponents of slavery and the dehumanisation of African-Americans were white christians. Those in the abolitionist movement were the SJWs of their time and extremely unpopular. Their lives were threatened and they were socially ostracised and labelled anti-white and anti-American (sound familiar?).

Long before MLK and the civil rights movement these men and women gave up their time, social status and other perks to advocate for black Americans as human (it's actually shocking groups like the Quakers and Methodists also did the same for native rights here in Australia as well). Somehow christianity in America has been hijacked by conservatives who associate their religion with their identity/race.

So when you see attacks on the left as SJWs it's the same mindset from the 1800s.

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17 Feb 2021, 3:31 pm

There are people out there that think they are being anti racist but are doing the opposite.

This is not anti racism:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/ ... _shes_not/

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