The Truth Behind Antifa?

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Trump' still the frontrunner for 2024
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 57ozv.html

He still has 59% approval rating from republican voters even after his role in the Capitol riots, his lies about voter fraud and the current investigation into his tax evasion by the IRS.

Even Mitt Romney thinks so
https://fortune.com/2021/02/24/donald-t ... er-romney/

How does that work? Are you allowed to be President while you're in prison? Do you get like, work release or something?

Wouldn't he just pardon himself?

You know, before trying to have Aunt Efa arrested.

Depends which branch of Judaism and which branch of Christianity. There exist both relatively liberal and relatively "uptight" forms of both Judaism and Christianity.

As far as I can tell, the idea of Jews conspiratorially using liberalism to "destroy" a society comes from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a forgery whose primary purpose was to serve as anti-democratic propaganda, by associating democratic movements with the already-unpopular Jews. Thus, the evil "Elders of Zion" supposedly backed democratic movements as a way to "weaken" Russia.

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Evidence, please?

What is your evidence that (1) George Soros is funding antifa groups and (2) George Soros has any interest in "destroying America through violence"?

Some info about Antifa:

- CBS
- San Diego, CA, local CBS affiliate
- Center for Strategic and International Studies (a centrist U.S. foreign-policy think tank)
- Anti-Defamation League
- Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook by Mark Bray

Year 2020 is my evidence.

Everything that happened last year seems to fit together far too perfectly to be an accident. The Biden-19 scamdemic started right when primary elections took place. Hospitals were paid to inflate their case counts. Empty refrigerator trucks were planted in front of hospitals to scare the general public. Trump sent medical ships to New York and San Francisco (or maybe LA), but the ships were never used. Chicago built a huge field hospital with federal funds Trump gave to the city, only to use 10% of its capacity.

The end goal was to wreck the economy, create a mass infection scare, and blame it on Trump. Then, when the economy was getting reading to partially reopen in June 2020, lootings and arsons started in every US city and even some small towns almost all at once, in the guise of "mostly peaceful protests". Democrat mayors and governors, who were paid off by George Soros too, ordered their police forces to "stand down" and let the destruction happen.

Left to their own devices, humans are more like cats than like sheep: they will do what they want to do, others be damned. But when planned and financed by a Hungarian-American banker, disjointed Antifa members around the US banded together to cause damage and destruction: from broken storefronts in every downtown to forest fires on the West Coast. How else would these atrocities happen all over America all at once, if someone hadn't planned it? And who else other than George Soros could it be? After all, he's an extreme Marxist, like every Antifa member. But unlike the members, he has billions of dollars sitting in his account. So, he paid a bunch of dumb youths to do mass damage.

I joined a QAnon-based group in May of last year, in order to have proper in-person socializing; politics were a distant second priority. However, I learned about news sources that the mainstream media hides from us all. I did some reading, and learned how the whole Biden-19 scamdemic unfolded: a lab in Wuhan was paid to create the Biden-19 virus to use in psychological warfare. Saying "biological" is too much, because it's basically a flu; its purpose wasn't so much getting people sick, but rather getting people SCARED.

Funny how today, despite Biden's federal mask mandate for transportation, only about half the people I see on trains actually wear masks. And on city streets, less than 20% of people wear masks, and I live in a heavily liberal area.

Crazy people keep insisting it's true, therefore it must be true despite no actual evidence besides the ramblings of people who are clearly delusional.

Sounds legit.

Orly?

Last I checked, it was antifa that won both world wars.

Given the many doctors who still tend to vote Republican, it's extremely unlikely that the medical profession as a whole would conspire to fake a pandemic for the purpose of electing Biden.


Concern about COVID-19 actually began earlier than that. Here is the 2020 primary elections calendar, whereas there was already concern about COVID-19 in late 2019 -- which is why it's called COVID-19, not COVID-20. See also jimmy m's thread here on WP, Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus, started in January 2020.


What's your evidence that "Hospitals were paid to inflate their case counts"? See Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count.


Your evidence that they were put there just for the purpose of scaring the general public?


Wrong. The ship sent to NY was indeed used, though less than expected. Hospital Ship Comfort Ends NYC COVID-19 Mission After Treating 182 Patients, April 27, 2020.

Here in NYC, there were indeed some horrendously overcrowded hospitals for a while, most notoriously in Elmhurst. Part of the problem was a lack of coordination between hospitals. Once that problem was solved, there was less overcrowding. Also, new infections plummeted once lockdown started and the mask shortage eased enough to make mask mandates feasible. Here in NYC, the lockdown worked well enough that the hospital ship was no longer needed.


Most likely because Chicago, like New York, succeeded in containing the spread of COVID thanks to masks and social distancing.


Trump got blamed mainly for not acting sooner than he did.

Had he acted sooner, doing so might even have worked to his political advantage. He could have, for example, made a big deal about the mask shortage being an example of the need for "America First" supply chains instead of relying on overseas sources for essential medical supplies -- a valid point that would have fit right in with some of the ideas that helped make him popular in the first place.


The lootings and arsons were, at least for the most part, not done by actual protesters but by criminals taking advantage of the situation. See, for example, 'Peaceful protests got hijacked': Some criminals used George Floyd protests as cover for looting, police say.


Your evidence that they were "paid off" by George Soros for this specific purpose?


No, most humans (or at least most NT's) are strongly influenced by what's fashionable in whatever group they happen to identify with.


The Black Lives Matter network had already been around since 2013. They were well-positioned to organize protests in the wake of the very well-publicized killing of George Floyd.

Alas, most cities also have criminal gangs that will seize whatever opportunities they can to steal a bunch of stuff. In any case, I'm sure the looting did not help Biden get elected. Crime waves tend to help Republicans. Biden got elected in spite of, not because, the looting.


What's your evidence that Soros is an "extreme Marxist"? According to this page on the website of Soros's own Open Society Foundations:


Also, Soros first made a name for himself as a philanthropist by helping various Eastern European countries transition away from Communism. See this page on the Open Society Foundations website. See also this Chicago Tribune article.


Your evidence that he did so?


And your basis for deeming these lesser-known news sources to be more reliable is....?


How densely populated is your "heavily liberal area"?

Here in NYC, the percentage of people who wear masks is much higher. Here in NYC, it's obvious to just about everyone except reckless teenagers that, without masks and social distancing, this entire city would be one big super-spreader event all day every day.

The risk is probably less in other, less densely populated places that also don't have international airports.

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Fascism wasn't relevant to WWI though.

Dude! are you serious?

Antifa saying it has no general organisation structure is simply gaslighting, imo.
Please provide evidence to prove me wrong.

Antifa is similar to MGTOW: it's decentralized, and is organized mostly online. It has no central authority figure dictating its whereabouts. Local Antifa chapters pretty much decide for themselves what to do and how to do it. Assertively but peacefully picket a Neo-Nazi march? OK! Burn down some stores, smash an entire city block of windows, and blast music in residential areas at 3:00 AM? Sure thing! Heckle and throw trash at elderly diners eating outside? Hell yeah! No chapter answers to a central authority. So, Antifa members get to hide behind plausible deniability: "but-but-but... that's not us".

However, Antifa has a central SPONSOR: Mr. George Soros himself. He donates billions of dollars to help destroy America: by arranging deliveries of bricks to areas to be looted, providing legal representation so looters don't go to jail (and are free to do more looting), and paying off Democrat politicians to make them defund the police and enable violent crime.

The "Open Society Foundation" is just a thinly veiled euphemism euphemism. I don't want an "open society". I don't want Marxist morons shutting down my social venues over a silly Election Flu virus. I want secure borders. I want a fiercely protective police force. I want very "tough on crime" legal system. I want full protection of all my personal freedoms. And I want assurance that there will not be another scamdemic in the 2024 election.

And another thing: Antifa is now the very "fa" it was created to oppose.

Don't feed the trolls.
Aspie1 doesn't actually believe any of this Q nonsense, he's just trying to get people riled up.
Last time, he tried telling us some hilarious stories about how the annual wildfires in California are actually started by Antifa throwing Molotov cocktails ;D

...as if everyone doesn't already know that it's caused by Jewish Space Lasers


You forgot the part about how all they're all having huge, secret anti-mask parties on ships where they drink the blood of children.