Should Women be Permitted to Appear Topless in Public?

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Deus_ex_machina
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30 Nov 2007, 9:13 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Wtf? People do this all the time whether you can accept this or not, if you don't believe me then go to a Fetish Ball or some other type of gathering, then tell me it doesn't happen.

Damn you might as well say that Nudism is only practised by a handful of ugly people over in Utah.

Well, fetish balls are fetish balls - you also have people with hooks going into their backs and crazy things like that. When you have people doing something in mass, as in everyone there is doing it, it means one particular woman in question going topless and covering herself in dyed sugar or something doesn't draw nearly the same effect when 20 other girls at the party are doing something similar and the guys either came in with them or came in with other guys - and as for the single guys, they're probably a bit more metrosexual than your typical redneck, wellfare recipient, or any middle-class variants of the same sorts of personalities. However, if its one woman by herself in a public place with all kinds of corrupted people with corrupted personalities and ethics around her - its a very serious risk to her safety.

You're assuming that those people wouldn't be topless and used to it also.

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30 Nov 2007, 9:18 pm

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Typically, the societies of the world that have stood around naked all day have gotten the least accomplished over the centuries in science, general industry, and in simply moving their culture forward over time, instead of letting it stagnate.

It's 'cause all the men are staring at breasts.

No man is going to be at his best mentally when there are topless women all around. Our society would crumble if all the women went topless.
Excessive hedonism was a major cause of the fall of the Roman Empire.
It was at the point where they no longer made any moral distinctions that the empire finally fell. They were a brilliant and industrious society, but when your get so drunk on perversion that can't tell good from evil, you're in serious trouble.

No we'd end up used to it, studies show that in places where porn is more common rape is less common.

No, it wasn't. It was Barbarians, lack of food, things like that, not what you consider immoral about today's society. Societies do not fall because some soldier had sex with another soldier.

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30 Nov 2007, 11:00 pm

Deus_ex_machina wrote:

You're assuming that those people wouldn't be topless and used to it also.

Subcultures have a balance, allowance for demanded etiquette, maybe a psycho here and there but not quite as prevailant. Main stream culture - trash of all kinds.

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01 Dec 2007, 12:15 am

Human males are genetically programmed to unconsciously analyze female characteristics for optimum reproduction capability. Unexposed breasts permit a certain amount of artificial exaggeration which gives a female more attractive sexual characteristics. The same applies to the rear end which communicates the hip size and baby carrying capabilities. Imagination adds to the sexual game play which can either be fun or disappointing when reality intrudes.

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02 Dec 2007, 4:09 pm

The sad thing is that these women want to feel more attractive, exposed, or "free" The reason why men get to appear in public topless is because their chest is not sexual. The woman on the other hand has a very sexual chest. If you let women walk around with exposed chest, you might as well let men walk around with no pants on and exposed rears and penis'. The reason why we cover our private parts is because they are to be saved for our partners(man and woman, woman and man) or when we are changing.. i cant believe i have to write this. Also don't you think more discrimination will come once they are all topless, like merely choosing a mate because she has more attractive breasts. Then after this law passes men will want to say "why is it that women get to be free" its a free country! then we have naked men running around. And naked men +naked women most likely will end up in sex because looking at a naked body of the opposite sex is supposed to be stimulating and guys will end up with an erection and etc. and what about the issue of naked children? does this not matter because they are just being free or expressing themselves. What about the issue of child predators? will that not matter because we will all be naked. Don't you think rape accounts will sky rocket because predators will see naked women walking down the streets alone and be more tempted to have sex with them. Do you find a clothed person more sexually arousing than a naked person? Also this seems to be a very unethical practice and goes against freedom of religion. This is a very naturalistic point of view like we are all animals and it doesnt matter if we wear clothes. What about Diests or anyone who has a religion besides naturalism. This is going to deminish and destroy society. NO NO NO

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02 Dec 2007, 4:26 pm

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Then after this law passes men will want to say "why is it that women get to be free" its a free country! then we have naked men running around.

Sounds like fun.

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And naked men +naked women most likely will end up in sex because looking at a naked body of the opposite sex is supposed to be stimulating and guys will end up with an erection and etc.

What's wrong with that?

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and what about the issue of naked children? does this not matter because they are just being free or expressing themselves. What about the issue of child predators? will that not matter because we will all be naked. Don't you think rape accounts will sky rocket because predators will see naked women walking down the streets alone and be more tempted to have sex with them.

They would be naked as well.

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Do you find a clothed person more sexually arousing than a naked person?

I think so, I believe that most of the time wearing sexy clothes get more attention than a complete naked body.

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Also this seems to be a very unethical practice and goes against freedom of religion.

Not necessarily, there are religions that embrace sexuality as something sacred, not dirty.

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02 Dec 2007, 4:58 pm

I asked this question awhile ago, but I'm still wondering if there are females (because I'm apparently not much of one) who do find man nipples sexual.

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02 Dec 2007, 5:13 pm

Myrkabah wrote:

http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php

/contains nudity, but not sexual nudity
//it's a gallery of pictures of 'normal' breasts for the purpose of raising awareness and self-esteem
///BOOOOBIEEEEES!

That site is interesting and perhaps educational.

http://www.007b.com/breast_taboo.php
http://www.007b.com/breast_obsession.php

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So are breasts sexual?

Breasts are just a part of the "whole package" that makes a woman. Obviously they are beautiful, feminine body parts, yes, but the mere looking at them in some everyday context shouldn't make men instantly think about sex.
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We are not saying that men can't appreciate woman's breasts as feminine and beautiful body parts, or that man and woman can't enjoy touching each other's bodies during the intimate relationship. We are saying breasts are NOT supposed to be some kind of a "turn-on", a special obsession point for men.

The advertisements and media images play to the idea that men are supposed to be "all ready" the instant they get a flash of a breast. It's not men's fault though, if they think so, because they have been culturally conditioned to see it that way. So on this site we hope to fight back against this sad trend.

We're saying let breasts be like legs and hips and neck and face etc. and all the other body parts - not some almost like inanimate objects that automatically 'click men's brains' to the "turn on" mode. Some people mention to us Song of Solomon, which mentions breasts in a sexual context. BUT it clearly places breasts on the same level as other body parts, such as teeth, neck, and hair.

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03 Dec 2007, 3:26 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Deus_ex_machina wrote:

You're assuming that those people wouldn't be topless and used to it also.

Subcultures have a balance, allowance for demanded etiquette, maybe a psycho here and there but not quite as prevailant. Main stream culture - trash of all kinds.

I can't make sense of that.

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03 Dec 2007, 9:42 am

greenblue wrote:

That site is interesting and perhaps educational.

http://www.007b.com/breast_taboo.php

"In North America and in many other westernized countries women's breasts are taboo." :lol:

That's a funny sentence, not to mention pure nonsense.

Men's balls can't be hanging out in public, but that doesn't mean their "taboo" ROFL! :lol:

And don't tell me that balls are sexual organs but breasts aren't -- maybe you're just not being creative enough?

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03 Dec 2007, 9:46 am

Angelus-Mortis wrote:

I asked this question awhile ago, but I'm still wondering if there are females (because I'm apparently not much of one) who do find man nipples sexual.

Male nipples can be very erotic, but they are often ignored.

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03 Dec 2007, 9:47 am

pandabear wrote:

Angelus-Mortis wrote:

I asked this question awhile ago, but I'm still wondering if there are females (because I'm apparently not much of one) who do find man nipples sexual.

Male nipples can be very erotic, but they are often ignored.

Please, NO ONE post pics of hairy men's nipples here! This forum has degraded enough lately.

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03 Dec 2007, 10:04 am

I always thought it was just a matter of preference. If you want to go around topless be my guest.

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04 Dec 2007, 1:17 am

If women went around topless, it would ruin the mystery/pagentry/imagination of it all. It takes the fun out of the whole thing!

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04 Dec 2007, 11:52 am

Au Contraire. It would bring the pageantry to a whole new level.

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04 Dec 2007, 9:39 pm

After a while, perhaps a full generation, people would become desensitized by seeing them all of the time. They (fun bags) would lose their luster.

It's like when women used to wear skirts with length down to their ankles. Back then, even the thought of a knee showing was electric. How about now?

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