911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl

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29 Aug 2008, 10:58 pm

I haven't read must of the thread, but here I go, I believe that things we hear and watch from the media, are always colorful, so it is reasonable to say to not trust everything we hear or read, however, that doesn't mean to discredit everything either, it is not a black and white issue here. So yes, I can say that terrorist attacks did happen, that it was not an inside job, and that the US government was hurt by it, we have to admit that we take some leap of faith to believe this, just as everything else.

Anyway, I don't know if this has been brought up in this thread, I have my doubts about the Flight 93 story, I mean, too much of a coincidence, which it was supposedly the most important target and was the only one which was taken down by the passengers, which seems to be too much to swallow without questioning, I mean, think about this, if that plane was shot down by a US aircraft or a misil to defend the most precious target, what would be the best story to say oficially? that the passengers were heroes or that the US sacrificed their lives for the sake of the country? Before someone jumps at me and accuse me of a conspiracy theorist for this, I say that I don't have any proof nor evidence of this, so I cannot be certain, I cannot be sure about anything related to this, however I do have my doubts, so I can't take the official story as truthful nor I can't oficially deny it. But it is something to wonder about.


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29 Aug 2008, 11:31 pm

any idiot can look at the film of the towers coming down and see that it was a demolish job, not a falling or burning steel building. any one that want to put there head in the sand fine but facts are facts and a couple of muslims in a plane didn't do that much damage and if your saying the Ben laden sunk in a high security building and planted all the explosive need for such a job then i say who the hell let him. it just doesn't add up, may be we need a aspie to do the math cause apparently there is a lot of americans that are either deaf, dumb stupid, can't think for themselves or just plain like getting screwed up the ass :!:



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29 Aug 2008, 11:43 pm

Top Ten Things a 911 Conspiracy Theorist Will Never Say:

  1. "I just realized that physics, engineering, and architecture are three entirely different disciplines."
  2. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you realize what an idiot you've been."
  3. "The voices ... they've stopped!"
  4. "I'll take Physics for 800, Alex."
  5. "You can't believe everything you find on the Internet."
  6. "I welcome the opportunity to have committees composed of my fellow faculty members evaluate my work."
  7. "If a Muslim fanatic ever pulled a boxcutter on me, I'd probably soil my pants and beg for mercy."
  8. "If I'm ever arrested for a serious crime, I sure hope the prosecutor uses the same standards of evidence that I do."
  9. "You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry."
  10. "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"



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29 Aug 2008, 11:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
[*] "You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry."
[*] "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"
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Seriously, these are not related to conspiracy theorists ONLY.
Especially the first one. Which I can say a pretty amount of people are like that, in all fairness.


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30 Aug 2008, 12:07 am

greenblue wrote:
Fnord wrote:
[*] "You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry."
[*] "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"
[/list]

Seriously, these are not related to conspiracy theorists ONLY.
Especially the first one. Which I can say a pretty amount of people are like that, in all fairness.

Ah, but wrap them all together and it illuminates 911CTers in their proper light.

Would you like to see the other 150 phrases that you'll never hear a 911CTer ever say?

I can PM them to you.



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30 Aug 2008, 12:27 am

mariag wrote:
think about it?. Could you let me know please? those of you who are living there, now so many years later, do general public believe official version or on the contrary, most ppl thinkalready it was an inside job?

Thanks, i´d appreaciate your comments about it.


Theres zero chance that the governments story is true.
The slippery slope from there to government involvement is logic garbage.
But the fact remains. Two plains hitting those towers cannot account for the way the buildings fell;
theres not enough available energy.

Who set the internal explosives?
Could have been the mossad.
Could have been CIA
Could have been bushies
who knows?
Hard to say for sure.

We should be actually looking at the facts, not pronouncing fake two dimensional judgements.


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30 Aug 2008, 12:30 am

Fnord wrote:
Top Ten Things a 911 Conspiracy Theorist Will Never Say:
  1. "I just realized that physics, engineering, and architecture are three entirely different disciplines."


the fact that there is a separate architechturalengineersfor911truth and physicistsfor911truth group suggests otherwisw.


Quote:
  • "I welcome the opportunity to have committees composed of my fellow faculty members evaluate my work."


  • Steven Jones has.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones

    Quote:
  • "If a Muslim fanatic ever pulled a boxcutter on me, I'd probably soil my pants and beg for mercy."


  • Some of the pilots-who were military pilots wouldn't act that way given their training and the like...


    Quote:
  • "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"


  • in the end

    Image

    as you made me respond to that at 12:30 Chicago Time with one of the parts of my gum annoying me due to swelling or a tooth coming out or pushing or something, and I think I have a runny nose...f**k.


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    30 Aug 2008, 12:46 am

    Fnord wrote:
    greenblue wrote:
    Fnord wrote:
    [*] "You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry."
    [*] "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"
    [/list]

    Seriously, these are not related to conspiracy theorists ONLY.
    Especially the first one. Which I can say a pretty amount of people are like that, in all fairness.

    Ah, but wrap them all together and it illuminates 911CTers in their proper light.

    Would you like to see the other 150 phrases that you'll never hear a 911CTer ever say?

    I can PM them to you.

    I don't think I would be interested in that, anyway, about the "I just got a girlfriend" thing, lol, would that apply only to 911 conspiracy theorists? Because my boss in a job I had years ago, he was a moon walk denier and he was married and had two kids :P and I knew a guy who denied the holocaust and had a girlfriend :P

    Heck, Mel Gibson's father denies the holocaust and 911 as well, I think.


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    30 Aug 2008, 8:30 am

    Haha, I'm a straight girl with a partner (and yes, he's male) - so no, can't imagine myself saying I got a girlfriend anytime soon!! :lol:


    Seriously can't believe people still think a man in a cave on the other side of the world was behind it all and they still can't find him - specially given the level of surveillance capability the US govt has (i.e. they could virtually find anyone anywhere in the world to within a few metres). Quite amusing really.

    Fnord, I've frequently said you can't believe everything you read on the internet. The skeptic cap must be worn. Which is why I find the 9/11 official line so laughable, as do so many other millions around the world. If so many didn't still believe it it'd be funny. It's like adults believing in the tooth fairy.


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    30 Aug 2008, 11:53 am

    OK, this is SO not my issue, but answer me this:

    Don't we live with hoards of combustibles that warn us to keep them away from high heat? Don't many things explode in the face of high heat? So wouldn't an unusually intensely hot fire set them off? Wouldn't explosions happen during an intense fire? Which would make it entirely possible all these multiple explosions you all referred to were a natural side effect, and not something planned?


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    30 Aug 2008, 12:06 pm

    DW_a_mom wrote:
    OK, this is SO not my issue, but answer me this:

    Don't we live with hoards of combustibles that warn us to keep them away from high heat? Don't many things explode in the face of high heat? So wouldn't an unusually intensely hot fire set them off? Wouldn't explosions happen during an intense fire? Which would make it entirely possible all these multiple explosions you all referred to were a natural side effect, and not something planned?

    Answering 'Yes' to any of these would mean that 911 Conspiracy Nuts would have nothing to live for.



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    30 Aug 2008, 1:41 pm

    DW_a_mom wrote:
    OK, this is SO not my issue, but answer me this:

    Don't we live with hoards of combustibles that warn us to keep them away from high heat? Don't many things explode in the face of high heat? So wouldn't an unusually intensely hot fire set them off? Wouldn't explosions happen during an intense fire? Which would make it entirely possible all these multiple explosions you all referred to were a natural side effect, and not something planned?


    Whatever it is that you're referring to that was stored in the world trade centers would have to be stored then in all three buildings that collapsed. Was it gas?.. gas cant melt steel upon exploding, and to me it's not simply the fact that there were explosions but the fact that the buildings fell at free fall speed. All the buildings fell exactly the same way and it seems so rediculously obvious why.



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    30 Aug 2008, 1:47 pm

    Fnord wrote:
    Top Ten Things a 911 Conspiracy Theorist Will Never Say:
    1. "I just realized that physics, engineering, and architecture are three entirely different disciplines."
    2. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you realize what an idiot you've been."
    3. "The voices ... they've stopped!"
    4. "I'll take Physics for 800, Alex."
    5. "You can't believe everything you find on the Internet."
    6. "I welcome the opportunity to have committees composed of my fellow faculty members evaluate my work."
    7. "If a Muslim fanatic ever pulled a boxcutter on me, I'd probably soil my pants and beg for mercy."
    8. "If I'm ever arrested for a serious crime, I sure hope the prosecutor uses the same standards of evidence that I do."
    9. "You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry."
    10. "Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!"


    I just realized that physics, engineering, and architecture are three entirely different disciplines. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you realize what an idiot you've been. The voices ... they've stopped! I'll take Physics for 800, Alex. You can't believe everything you find on the Internet. I welcome the opportunity to have committees composed of my fellow faculty members evaluate my work. If a Muslim fanatic ever pulled a boxcutter on me, I'd probably soil my pants and beg for mercy. If I'm ever arrested for a serious crime, I sure hope the prosecutor uses the same standards of evidence that I do. You are right. I was wrong. I'm sorry. Dude! I just got a girlfriend; a real one!

    But hold on a second.. I just said those things!..

    Oh yeah, that's because I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I just take things as I see them.. not how Im brainwashed to see them.



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    30 Aug 2008, 3:45 pm

    Moderator: Please move this thread to the appropriate forum.

    Thanks



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    30 Aug 2008, 8:28 pm

    jrknothead wrote:
    Moderator: Please move this thread to the appropriate forum.

    Thanks

    Hey man, we've got enough crap in our forum.


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    31 Aug 2008, 12:49 am

    Question for all of you 911CTers:

    "Why haven't you taken all of your 'evidence' to be heard in court (any court, foreign or domestic), instead of screaming about it on street corners and spamming websites that are dedicated to another cause?"

    I mean, if the evidence has an real validity, you should be able to find some lawyer, somewhere, who will take the case for you.