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25 Jan 2009, 10:20 pm

claire333 wrote:

Correct.

Actually, not entirely. Right now, as a white, male engineer, I'm less desired by major engineering companies than females and minorities. Two examples of this, Chevron has only hired one male Chemical engineer from my university in the two years I was keeping track of it, and that's only because the guy's brother was already working for them. Second was when two of my friends, with the same GPA, one male and one female, gave their resumes to a company at a career fair. When she gave them her resume, they got excited, took down her contact information, and scheduled an interview right there. When he handed them his resume, they looked at it, said "Wow, that's a low GPA", and handed it back.

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25 Jan 2009, 10:30 pm

It just seems to me that this post is generalizing. Not everyone that voted for Obama is a racist.

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25 Jan 2009, 10:33 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:

I hope my unreserved apology is accepted :oops:

No sweat.

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26 Jan 2009, 7:43 am

claire333 wrote:

DentArthurDent wrote:

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claire333 wrote:

But there is value in being white. Do not ask me why because I have no answer. Of course, it should not matter...but for some reason it really does.

this is just pure tautology. if you don't plan on making sense then why do you even post?

Well there goes the respect I once had for claire 333. If you think that is harsh I can have absolutely no respect for someone who judges on the basis of colour, I abhor racism and its proponents.

Anyone who is not white can easily see the value of being white. It does not suprise me the least bit that white people would also be able to see this. I am not saying it is right or that it even makes sense. I am saying it is true.

I think the point was not what value being white has for a single person (it's sort of obvious) but what value there is in a society staying white. v0lume keeps arguing that there is, yet he has no arguments apart from "because I say so".

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26 Jan 2009, 7:57 am

v0lume wrote:

No, not everyone is a mongrel. Of course, it took thousands upon thousands of years of evolution for us to become white, to put an abrupt end to that/ acting genetically irresponsible would be the same as saying you wouldn't care if our race fell off the face of the earth. Are you suggesting that I believe the white man evolved seperately from blacks? That's just rediculous. Saying that ethnic classification does not exist is like saying there couldn't possibly be races out there who haven't strayed from their genetic backgrounds since they have technically begun, which is complete BS. There are many whites out there who have no jewish or otherwise backgrounds in their family names as far back as it could possibly go. Sadly this is beginning to become less and less of a reality, and one day everything about old Europe will become entirely part jewish/ arabian and the thousands of years of evolution would have to start all over again. Are you saying thats fair? Also, what gives them the right to just move in by the thousands and replace my race with theirs? I mean hell, I already lost my folks religions to people like them now we are going to lose our physical identity too. It's wrong, and disgusting.

You completely misunderstand what race is. Racial classification has been debunked because it is completely subjective where you would put the boundaries. Genetics quashed the whole racial classification idea.

There is not way of saying someone is pure, it simple is no pure "white" nor can there ever be.

What is more it is rare but possible for black parents to have white children and white parent to have black children.

There is a small chance it could happen to you. That is because you don’t have pure genes, and it is fanciful to think that there hasn’t been multiple convergence, after initial divergence.

There is also no benefit in narrowing the gene pool. What will result is stagnation.

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26 Jan 2009, 8:13 am

DentArthurDent wrote:

I can see your sentiment, it would be a bit like me using Aspergers to excuse my behaviour. However just because two black people have reached the pinnacle of US government does not make everybody equal. The american underclass needs much work, you cannot wash away years of generational poverty, generations of underachieving in education, a culture of subjugation; overnight just because a black man is now president. In a situation of extreme unemployment, substandard housing , poor education, third world health system and a complete lack of equality how can you expect people to have self respect in such a situation, saying look at Rice and Obama does not do it. Yes one or two can rise out of the muck, we had a prime minister here that did just that, but people with that sort of drive and ambition are rare

...not to mention that Obama is not typically an African American, he's half-white too and he was raised by his rich white grandparents.

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26 Jan 2009, 4:40 pm

anna-banana wrote:

I suggest you should look at that graph again, but this time more closely.

the 50,70 figure is NOT under percentage but under TOTAL POPULATION.

Lol, WHOOPS! Could have sworn it said total percentage, but I am wrong sometimes =p

And I'm not a sick racist -.-
I'm a raving cultural conservative, and I still believe that race is part of culture. Sorry.
With that being said, you might understand the concern I would have with the race I identify with.

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26 Jan 2009, 4:57 pm

v0lume wrote:

I'm a raving cultural conservative, and I still believe that race is part of culture. Sorry.
With that being said, you might understand the concern I would have with the race I identify with.

ok before you go on holiday to Europe I guess we all here should get prepared... all Scandinavians are to wear Viking helmets. all Frenchies are to wear striped shirts and little black berets, smoke fags and look blase. Italians are to be shooting each other, baking pizzas and shouting "Mamma mia". Brits are to wear tweed and talk about the weather. feudalism is to be brought back, as well as the Holy Roman Empire. all muslims are to be hidden from the public eye (probably in kitchens, after all someone has to do all the dirty work)

yay the big Medieval-Europe themed holiday park for American kids!

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26 Jan 2009, 4:59 pm

Obama is an empty suit.

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26 Jan 2009, 9:59 pm

^So you'd rather have another airhead republican run the show? One that is against important scientific research I might add..

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26 Jan 2009, 10:03 pm

anna-banana wrote:

yay the big Medieval-Europe themed holiday park for American kids!

Well thanks for the good laugh :lol:

Of course I don't want people to look and act exactly like they did in Medieval times, although your right.. That would be kinda fun! haha

I just mean in general, as in terms of religion and over all identity. Of course :wink:

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26 Jan 2009, 10:34 pm

v0lume wrote:

^So you'd rather have another airhead republican run the show? One that is against important scientific research I might add..

Nice false dichotomy/strawman/red herring. Impressive to put that many fallacies into a few sentences. What does Bush have to do with anything? If the best you can do is bring up Bush then you lose. That isn't an argument.

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26 Jan 2009, 10:44 pm

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v0lume wrote:

^So you'd rather have another airhead republican run the show? One that is against important scientific research I might add..

chakra khan.

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26 Jan 2009, 10:53 pm

v0lume wrote:

One that is against important scientific research I might add..

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27 Jan 2009, 1:41 am

kazig, he was making fun of it, trying to get peoples support :roll: How is that funny?

blackelk, I can say the same thing about what you first said about Obama. A lot of people think it's annoying that everyone is making a big deal out of him just because he's black. I looked further than that and found him to be useful, exactly WHAT is the problem?
Plus, the only way a republican typically gets support is from evangelicals and lying (proof throughout history), how can you trust that?

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27 Jan 2009, 3:36 am

So, a black person voted for Obama because Obama is black...
and
a white person voted for obama because he is white...

is obama black, white, oriental or cherokee?

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