I just think people are Jealous of the US

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Thats silly. Countries do not erode their tax bases or cause ease brain drains to the US.[/quote

I didn't say they did. But they target people they consider undesirables. The USA does not promote citizenship to the USA unless you are a genius or rich. If you get an offer for citizenship to the USA, it isn't from the USA.

THe difference is an other one: If you immigrate within the EU is a "no-thrill-immigration": No visa, non-discrimination for EU-citizens causes in the EU-legislation, clear rules regarding social security, etc.

When I moved from Germany to the UK the whole bureaucratic proceedings were done in one day before noon. Why a EU-citizen shall make the fuss of running through the immigration proceedings of the US, if he can find a job without any restriction within the EU?

Yes, it is much easier I am sure. If you come to the US you have to prove you are not a terrorist, unless you are immigrating from the Middle East, in which case that would be considered racial profiling.

This is craziness. Except for illegal aliens coming from the southern borders, political refugees, and skilled tech workers (not so much right now) - US immigration is flat and constricting - whether you are a white guy from the UK named Nigel or a black guy from Chad named Hakim.

Its not a giant conspiracy - the US's intentions are very clear. No terrorists or criminals and because of the giant backlog at Immigration, it effects everyone trying to come in. I know several British spouses of American citizens who are in limbo. Little things - like having to constantly renew their visas or not being able to bring their cats over - but they all have a sad story to tell. (or at least bloody inconvenient!)

Needless to say, it got really gummed up after 9/11 - when we quasi-merged the US Border Patrol, Customs, Immigration and Naturalization, and pieces of the State Department into one total cluster **** called the Dept. of Homeland Security.

I think some Americans are weary of the conversation. I for one, DON'T care - who comes and goes, as long as they aren't said terrorists or criminals. But everyone still should go through the screening and application process. Even if they are picking strawberries for $2 a day and living in a cardboard box with 10 other people. Its for everyone's good - even the strawberry pickers.

Fortunately, Obama is re-thinking the DHS and maybe we can get the process flowing efficiently.

Its BS to say the US doesn't welcome immigrants. Even those who whine about it for a living - like Lou Dobbs know they are full of BS.

PS: What DOES hack me is when (mostly) Northern Europeans and Canadians come in and screw our tax system by not paying sales taxes. And then they laugh in our faces as they drive a BMW they could never afford if they lived back in Norway or whatever. (Gee - I guess I do have a little redneck in me! Also a bit of a left-over grudge from an old boyfriend.)

I'm not sure I get what you mean by that. If I purchase something in a state with a sales tax, I have to pay it at the till. Whipping out my Canadian ID(which isnt recognised), doesnt do squat. I just get a funny look and maybe get called a scammer.

Yes - in fairness to visiting Canadians, you guys don't do that. But I know a bunch of Canadians who stay for awhile on visas and play some pretty crafty games that screw both countries. (Engineers are notoriously crafty and cheap. From up your way, coincidentally? Regina, eh?)

Thats a little east of me, but yeah, and engineers an engineer.

I have a joke for you Mme!

Three engineers and 3 accountants are all going to a convention. They decide to travel by train(they must be in Europe).

The accountants each buy a ticket, and they notice that the engineers only buy one. They inquire "How are you going to get away with that?"

"Just wait and see."

Boarding the train, the three engineers cram into a bathroom and when the conductor comes around, he knocks on the door, "Ticket please!"

The door opens a crack and one hand passes out a ticket.

The accountants are so impressed with this, they decide to do that on the way back.

One the way back, they line up and buy a single ticket. Then they notice that the engineers havent bought any! So they ask, "how will you get away with that?

"Just wait and see."

When they board the train, all the engineers cram in one bathroom, and the accountants in another. Just before the conductors comes, one engineer comes out and knocks on the accountants door,

"Ticket please!"

Hey IdahoAspie: Why are you so patriotic?
Is it because the US is where you live and so you're loyal to your *pack*? Or is it that the US has been particularly good to you.....

Ha ha ha!! ! That's great! Dirty Rotten Scoundrels - all of them!

Oh, by the way...anyone else see the movie "Barcelona"? One of the best movies ever. A story about Americans abroad and all the funny stupid opinions and theories. (On both sides)

One of the best running jokes - is of the Spanish pseudo-intellectual and the "AFL-CIA". Hysterical.

But they also mock the dumb American Navy guy - who's like a bull in a china shop - culturally.

Am I eligible for your equivalent of a "green card?" Can I come and live with you?

I know it's a little confusing, but when the quotation codes malfunction, there's a little button that says "edit," to the top right, inside the box with your post. To start a quote, you say quote="name" and put brackets around it. To end a quote, you use a backslash. It actually works pretty well. After 576 posts, one would think you might have figured it out.

Better yet, why don't you go somewhere else and get a life? I'm sure we have a few regulars around here who take things literally and think you represent a significant portion of the public. It's embarrassing, having a troll like you claiming to be an "American." (When you haven't even figured out where America is.)

Yeah, I figured it out. I just don't bother, because it is stupid to do that.

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1: Your conclusion is wrong. This is not the 1800's.
2: China and Japan invent and manufacture most stuff nowadays. On average, in the past, the USA has had no more inventors than anywhere else to my knowledge.
3 & 4: And? Toys can be obtained in any part of the world, courtesy of the internet, and wealth means nothing to those Americans who still are poor.
5: So do lots of other places. Brazil, for a start. And most of Europe (ta EU).
6: Yes, but you're beaten on this too. Sweden seems tobe the goody-two-shoes of the world when it comes to having the highest standards of everything.
7: No, you contributed. Helped. And the US help was welcome. But if all other countries had left you to it as soon as you turned up, would you still have won? Doubt it. You didn't win WW1 and WW2 single handed.
8: 911, anyone? And you're still stuck to Canada and Cenral/South America, so if they ever decide not to like you, you're in trouble. And Alaska's stupidly close to Russia.
9: Not everyone speaks your language (1/4 of the world's population speak English, decent number of those would have been taught in the UK, Australia, South Africa etc, so will have different dialects.) And the UK doesn't have to adapt to you. I have never had a gun pointed at my head for saying biscuit instead of cookie, or trousers instead of pants.
10: If you always get your way, how come Iraq aren't thanking you yet? And Vietnam? And Japan? And any country you've ever been at war with? And why hasn't terrorism stopped yet. You don't want it to continue, so why haven't all terrorists apologised and given themselves up?
If this is getting your own way then I'm the Queen of Sheba.
11: People might like America more if certain Americans stopped bragging and acting like they were better than everyone else, letting the rest of their country down in the process.

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You a smart guy, you figured out the quote fx!

Me too.