Do you believe in God?

Page 72 of 88 [ 1403 posts ] Go to page Previous 1 ... 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75 ... 88 Next

Do you believe God exists?

1) God is a being, that one can have a personal relationship. A person God.	30%	[ 55 ]
2) God is an impersonal force that guides reality as it is. He decrees our laws of physics, but does not intervene to break them.	12%	[ 22 ]
3) God does not exist. Reality can be explained by scientific inquiry and the scientific method in by itself.	33%	[ 61 ]
4) I am not sure. There is the possibility that God does exist, or does not. We must follow the preponderance of evidence when drawing our conclusion.	26%	[ 48 ]

Total votes : 186

Scarabola
Blue Jay

Joined: 9 May 2016
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 78
Location: Texas

18 May 2016, 11:35 am

Deltaville wrote:

AspE wrote:

You are a theist.

.

As for me, I can speak to myself, and say I am a theist. And to answer your other question, 'fine-tuning of the universe' is not the most convincing argument that makes me a theist rather than an atheist. Things like the resurrection of Christ are for me, more convincing than any other argument presented from physics.

I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Scarabola
Blue Jay

Joined: 9 May 2016
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 78
Location: Texas

18 May 2016, 11:40 am

There are as many definitions on what "God" means as there are religions in this world. If each religion has a unique name, each definition should have one as well. If everyone uses "God" to refer to their unique view, then who is to say who is wrong or right? You would think the creator of the universe would do something to settle this issue. He seems to have done it quite a bit in the Bible.

Grischa
Velociraptor

Joined: 22 Apr 2016
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 401

18 May 2016, 1:00 pm

for those who felt a bit agitated just before, here's a glass of water

Grischa
Velociraptor

Joined: 22 Apr 2016
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 401

18 May 2016, 1:01 pm

excuse me for not being able to find a smaller glass

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 2:14 pm

Scarabola wrote:

I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Then that's your problem.

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 2:17 pm

b9 wrote:

NoahYates wrote:

b9 I invite you to never come back to this thread if you do not have anything to contribute. You are extremely rude. I will report you if you continue this behavior.

it is not your per-ordained right to pronounce my input as valid or not.
i do not think it is right to force one's beliefs upon anyone, and i merely chided you because i think that is what you do.
the "truth" is beyond even you, and you have no ownership over the conduct of this thread.

do not still be cranky about that thing i said to you about being sick of your face recently. it has blown long away in my mind.

It never ceases to amaze me that you insist this thread run on a false dichotomy on the notion that this issue is run on a yes or no answer, coercing your own point of view on how it ought to be ran, and then accuse others of doing so in a likewise manner.

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 2:20 pm

NoahYates wrote:

It hasn't left my mind... It has plagued me every day. I changed my avatar on every forum I participate in. What you said is cruel. And you said "I keep seeing your face pop up in this thread." Well no s**t... I am responsible for nearly half the posts in this thread. This is virtually the only thread I post in on wrong planet. This is a forum for discussion... I can give all of the evidence for God's existence I want... And people can take it or leave it. I don't know why you are so antagonistic toward me. I thought I was even your friend form the artwork thread where I complimented you on your fractals and shared a mandelbulb music video with you. It is not fair for you to treat me as though I am some sort of ogre, because I am posting content that is contrary to what you believe. It is not your preordained right to pronounce my input as valid or not... You have no ownership over the conduct in this thread. If the owner of the thread , Deltaville, does not want me to discuss the nature of God then I will quit. I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone... if you think I did that... then I will hear it... copy and paste all of the instances where I did that immediately if this is the case... I would like to know. If you had actually read this thread, you would see where over and over again I have pronounced my own ignorance. I have a very limited and dim refracted reflection of "the truth"... but its something.

No one is an owner of this thread. And I am puzzled why you have bowed down to b9's demand that you change your avatar. If I were you, I'd report his post, and restore your previous avatar.

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

AspE
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 31 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,114

18 May 2016, 2:21 pm

In Noah's defense, I had no problem with his face. Or his behavior.

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 2:29 pm

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

No there is a standard model, it is the lambda-CDM. It is universally accepted. Period.

If you wish to debate this fact in more depth, then you are most certainly welcome to visit my cubicle at my university, during my office hours. I am due to start my first real teaching experience this September, with teaching a second year intro to Cosmology course. I think I know what I am talking about.

It's not complete and you know it. There are numerous plausible multi-verse models as well.

The only plausible multiverse theorem is eternal inflation that runs upon a hypothetical scalar value that no one knows which is correct, and all end up with the same result. Hardly science.

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

NoahYates
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 2 Mar 2016
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 545
Location: Kentucky

18 May 2016, 2:50 pm

Thank you all for the kind words.

Interestingly, the mandelbulb video in combination with the music from phutureprimitve I shared inspires in me a sort of mystical feeling. Indeed, when, in my minds eye, I conceive of what God is like if God had a "shape" or "form" it is like a self-manifesting fractal. I feel as though this is the nature of reality. God is the Logos. Brahman. The One Substance.

When Krishna reveals his true form to Arjuna, I imagine something like this.

_________________
“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts

Last edited by NoahYates on 18 May 2016, 3:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

drlaugh
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 28 Dec 2015
Posts: 3,360

18 May 2016, 3:11 pm

Thanks for the water

It reminded me of the question

Is the glass 1/2 full
or 1/2 empty

The logical engineer said the glass was too big.
Nothing is too big for God.
Not even a George Carlin routine.

_________________
Still too old to know it all

AspE
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 31 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,114

18 May 2016, 3:30 pm

Deltaville wrote:

...The only plausible multiverse theorem is eternal inflation that runs upon a hypothetical scalar value that no one knows which is correct, and all end up with the same result. Hardly science.

You are incorrect. F-

drlaugh
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 28 Dec 2015
Posts: 3,360

18 May 2016, 3:38 pm

Could you all dumb down your words so I can understand your points.

I do get some such as
F minus. :?:

_________________
Still too old to know it all

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 4:01 pm

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

...The only plausible multiverse theorem is eternal inflation that runs upon a hypothetical scalar value that no one knows which is correct, and all end up with the same result. Hardly science.

You are incorrect. F-

Nope. You are. Inflationary cosmology, is the only type of multiverse hypothesis that is subject to test, as it can be proved or falsified by examining the CMB. Others are completely outside the boundaries of experiment (e.g string landscape).

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

AspE
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 31 Dec 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,114

18 May 2016, 4:12 pm

Deltaville wrote:

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

...The only plausible multiverse theorem is eternal inflation that runs upon a hypothetical scalar value that no one knows which is correct, and all end up with the same result. Hardly science.

You are incorrect. F-

Hilarious. So how do you test for God?

Deltaville
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 27 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 941
Location: SystemShock Universe

18 May 2016, 4:21 pm

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

...The only plausible multiverse theorem is eternal inflation that runs upon a hypothetical scalar value that no one knows which is correct, and all end up with the same result. Hardly science.

You are incorrect. F-

Hilarious. So how do you test for God?

In order to the string landscapes, you also need a particle accelerator the size of a galaxy. Moreover chaotic inflation, the leading multiverse model, has itself been determined to be implausible by BICEP2.

_________________
Sebastian

"Don't forget to floss." - Darkwing Duck

Page 72 of 88 [ 1403 posts ] Go to page Previous 1 ... 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75 ... 88 Next

Jump to:

Do you believe in God? Post Reply New Topic

Do you believe in God?