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Do you believe God exists?

1) God is a being, that one can have a personal relationship. A person God.	30%	[ 55 ]
2) God is an impersonal force that guides reality as it is. He decrees our laws of physics, but does not intervene to break them.	12%	[ 22 ]
3) God does not exist. Reality can be explained by scientific inquiry and the scientific method in by itself.	33%	[ 61 ]
4) I am not sure. There is the possibility that God does exist, or does not. We must follow the preponderance of evidence when drawing our conclusion.	26%	[ 48 ]

Total votes : 186

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18 May 2016, 4:45 pm

Theoretical falsifiability is good enough, even if the method may not be practical.

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18 May 2016, 5:12 pm

AspE wrote:

Theoretical falsifiability is good enough, even if the method may not be practical.

No; in order for a theory to be considered science it must be testable or subject to test. This is a basic compartment of the axiom of science.

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18 May 2016, 5:58 pm

Deltaville wrote:

AspE wrote:

Theoretical falsifiability is good enough, even if the method may not be practical.

No; in order for a theory to be considered science it must be testable or subject to test. This is a basic compartment of the axiom of science.

It can be merely theoretically testable, even if the technology doesn't exist now to do the test.

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19 May 2016, 12:40 pm

AspE wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

AspE wrote:

Theoretical falsifiability is good enough, even if the method may not be practical.

No; in order for a theory to be considered science it must be testable or subject to test. This is a basic compartment of the axiom of science.

It can be merely theoretically testable, even if the technology doesn't exist now to do the test.

First, and foremost, there is no such thing as theoretical testing. A simple Google search yields no results for the notion of theoretical testing or falsifiability. I think that is a term you made up. In science, for an idea to be considered scientific, it must be subject to test or verification by empirical observation.

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19 May 2016, 12:52 pm

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I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Then that's your problem.

If you truly believe in that, then I would think you'd want to convert me and save my soul, not give a meaningless statement.

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19 May 2016, 12:57 pm

Scarabola wrote:

There are as many definitions on what "God" means as there are religions in this world. If each religion has a unique name, each definition should have one as well. If everyone uses "God" to refer to their unique view, then who is to say who is wrong or right? You would think the creator of the universe would do something to settle this issue. He seems to have done it quite a bit in the Bible.

I'd appreciate a response.

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19 May 2016, 1:01 pm

Scarabola wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

Scarabola wrote:

I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Then that's your problem.

If you truly believe in that, then I would think you'd want to convert me and save my soul, not give a meaningless statement.

You are beyond deluded if you assume I care about your "soul" or have any motivations to convert you.

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19 May 2016, 1:16 pm

Deltaville wrote:

Scarabola wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

Scarabola wrote:

I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Then that's your problem.

If you truly believe in that, then I would think you'd want to convert me and save my soul, not give a meaningless statement.

You are beyond deluded if you assume I care about your "soul" or have any motivations to convert you.

I assumed if you believe in a Biblical scenario happening then that would make you religious, whether in Christianity or Catholocism or whatever. You can't blame me more making that assumption when billions of people are Christian and want to convert people. If believing in Christ's resurrection means so much to you, do you think everyone should believe it too (without forcing them to)? How does beliving it have any effect on your life? I truly would like to understand what your beliefs are.

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19 May 2016, 1:16 pm

As a person who specializes in Cosmology (quantum cosmology to be more specific), QLT is much more prone to observational methods and testing. I would prefer it any day over the untestable, convoluted, and thus, scientifically meaningless notion of a string landscape. Richard Feynman says it best: 'String theorists do not make predictions, they make excuses.'

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19 May 2016, 1:18 pm

Scarabola wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

Scarabola wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

Scarabola wrote:

I can't take anyone that believes in any religious dogma seriously. You seem like an intellectual person, yet your belief in a man's resurrection makes me uneasy.

Then that's your problem.

If you truly believe in that, then I would think you'd want to convert me and save my soul, not give a meaningless statement.

You are beyond deluded if you assume I care about your "soul" or have any motivations to convert you.

I have not even the most remote clue why you are of belief that every single Christian has the agenda of proselytizing non-believers.

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19 May 2016, 1:24 pm

This thread is sometimes difficult to read
Sometimes I don't know whether we're still in the scientifical domain, or the philosophical/theological

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19 May 2016, 1:31 pm

Grischa wrote:

for those who felt a bit agitated just before, here's a glass of water

Reminds me of a Scripture:

And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.”
Matthew 10:42

And by the way guys, I'm back. But I may not be quite as involved as I was before.

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19 May 2016, 1:38 pm

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This thread is sometimes difficult to read
Sometimes I don't know whether we're still in the scientifical domain, or the philosophical/theological

Yes, I agree, it is. I believe all three domains you mention, you will find go hand in hand quite readily. At least in human conversation and thought.

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19 May 2016, 5:51 pm

Deltaville wrote:

I have not even the most remote clue why you are of belief that every single Christian has the agenda of proselytizing non-believers.

Apparently the more converts one gets, the better place in heaven one gets, I've heard. And I would think that not spreading the message of God's word and saving people with Jesus would be considered unfavorable in a deity's eye. Goes to show the different versions of the same story that religion is.

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19 May 2016, 5:56 pm

Welcome back "Bot"
Thanks for sharing the Word.

Love and prayers

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19 May 2016, 6:07 pm

Scarabola wrote:

Deltaville wrote:

I have not even the most remote clue why you are of belief that every single Christian has the agenda of proselytizing non-believers.

Apparently the more converts one gets, the better place in heaven one gets, I've heard.

Citation needed.

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