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12 Jul 2017, 11:58 pm

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LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.

Yes apparently we whites are the only ones allowed to be racist.



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13 Jul 2017, 12:06 am

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LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


racism against whites very much exists.

cyberdad wrote:
Yes apparently we whites are the only ones allowed to be racist.


isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?


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13 Jul 2017, 12:23 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


racism against whites very much exists.

cyberdad wrote:
Yes apparently we whites are the only ones allowed to be racist.


isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?

Pretty much. I reserve isms for measurable detriment to a group on a large scale. Some people call those systemic isms, but I prefer bigotry as a general term for non-systemic devaluation of people based on their membership in a group.

Individual white people experience bigotry, but except in very limited contexts racism against white people does not exist. We don't experience it most of the time.

So, consider yourself lucky?


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13 Jul 2017, 2:02 am

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Trump won historically working-class Democrat states.
He says things that connect with poor and middle class people


Basically playing on the fears of swinging white democrat voters, heck! the same ploy works here in Australia with conservative governments


Those @%#! white people.

Well I didn't imply that?


Oh come on, you have a history of it.



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13 Jul 2017, 2:12 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump won historically working-class Democrat states.
He says things that connect with poor and middle class people


Basically playing on the fears of swinging white democrat voters, heck! the same ploy works here in Australia with conservative governments


Those @%#! white people.

LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


Can I be both a socialist and a conservative?



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13 Jul 2017, 3:05 am

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isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?


Actually its not just a power differential but incorporates sociocultual historic subjugation and an unwritten class system designed to create an invisible apartheid

Nonwhites internalise this and obviously don't get why we can't see what they are going through



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13 Jul 2017, 3:06 am

EzraS wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump won historically working-class Democrat states.
He says things that connect with poor and middle class people


Basically playing on the fears of swinging white democrat voters, heck! the same ploy works here in Australia with conservative governments


Those @%#! white people.

LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


Can I be both a socialist and a conservative?

So you are a national socialist?



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13 Jul 2017, 3:57 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump won historically working-class Democrat states.
He says things that connect with poor and middle class people


Basically playing on the fears of swinging white democrat voters, heck! the same ploy works here in Australia with conservative governments


Those @%#! white people.

LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


Can I be both a socialist and a conservative?

So you are a national socialist?



Had to look that up.... Nazis, figures :roll:

No, more along the lines of DarthMetaKnight. A few years ago I came up with the idea of money being distributed more evenly and everybody helping everybody else. My teacher told me that's what socialism is. I would rather it be a communal agreement rather than something imposed by government. It would be best if it existed worldwide. A pipe dream that one day everyone would suddenly get tired of both greed and poverty.



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13 Jul 2017, 4:03 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
LOL Conservatives are whining about "anti-white racism" again.


racism against whites very much exists.

cyberdad wrote:
Yes apparently we whites are the only ones allowed to be racist.


isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?


What it boils down to is, if you're white and you're not a left swinging liberal, you're a Nazi. period. end of story. That's the ideology, the propaganda, the brainwashing.



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13 Jul 2017, 6:59 am

I wonder what colored folk think of black conservatives, especially black conservatives who voted for the present white house occupant?



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13 Jul 2017, 7:41 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:

isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?


That how racism has been redefined. In addition racism now encomposses a lot more hate and prejudice then just against black people.

I will continue to use racism to describe prejudice, stereotyping against a person of another race, and use it for racial prejudice/descrimination only. Society will judge my use the antiquated defintion of racism because I am a privileged, cisgengendered, straight, white male. Nah I am just aspie (sorry, person with aspergers) about defining and catagorizing things.


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13 Jul 2017, 8:52 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:

isn't the "narrative" that whites are the only ones with the capability to be racist?

because racism is a show of power and nonwhites have "less power", therefore they can't be racist or what the hell ever?


That how racism has been redefined. In addition racism now encomposses a lot more hate and prejudice then just against black people.

I will continue to use racism to describe prejudice, stereotyping against a person of another race, and use it for racial prejudice/descrimination only. Society will judge my use the antiquated defintion of racism because I am a privileged, cisgengendered, straight, white male. Nah I am just aspie (sorry, person with aspergers) about defining and catagorizing things.


Which is why I'm of the opinion that pushing niche, ideologically redefined variants of incendiary terms and phrases on people with ASDs can be considered to be a form of ableist abuse.

Racism is racism. Those who want to factor in "power" should consider all forms of power in all relevant circumstances. If your words have the power to affect others, you have power. Period. The assertion that ""People of Color" can't be racist" because "institutional power" is doubly racist. It carries the bigotry of low expectations as well as excusing and promoting genuine expressions of hatred against white people for the crime of being born a wrongskin.

Anyone who peddles that nonsense yet considers themselves to be "anti-racist" is deluding themselves.



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13 Jul 2017, 11:32 am

^You assert that if a person accepts systemic racism, then they must excuse ordinary bigotry?


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13 Jul 2017, 2:30 pm

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13 Jul 2017, 5:42 pm

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No, more along the lines of DarthMetaKnight. A few years ago I came up with the idea of money being distributed more evenly and everybody helping everybody else. My teacher told me that's what socialism is. I would rather it be a communal agreement rather than something imposed by government. It would be best if it existed worldwide. A pipe dream that one day everyone would suddenly get tired of both greed and poverty.

Had you proposed this in the 1950s you would have been arrested as a communist



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13 Jul 2017, 5:57 pm

In some instances, perhaps.

Many people espoused these sorts of ideas in colleges/universities even during the McCarthy Era.

It's more like-----if they wanted to dig dirt on you as a famous person with Communist leanings.

An ordinary person probably would have remained off the radar, as long as they didn't blatantly espoused the overthrow of the government.