Homosexuality
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Well, we've reached page 80, and have accomplished ostensibly nothing. Congrats all around.
Only because you're too stupid to understand what sexuality actually is.
Actually, you're the one who seems rather abnormal in that department.
No I'm not. Most people would accept that one's sexuality is determined by who they're attracted to, not who they have sex with.
Define "most people". Most people in the U.K.? Most people in the western world? Most people in the northern hemispere? What? And you haven't interacted with many people.
How about Professionals, Scientists, Doctors, Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Sexologists? I believe most of sexologists or very likely all of them in the world agree with it.
Well, I don't trust the opinions of "sexologists". Sex and moral issues go hand-in-hand, and their "morality" definitions vary widely from the Bible's.
That's why some people are ignorants about sexuality because they reject the information, they don't wanna know.
The Bible has plenty to say on sexuality, specifically morals, but not only. I'll take God's Word over sexologists, thank you very much.
Whats the stuff the Bible says of sexuality and f*****g?
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
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greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Yeah, who cares whether they man is feminine or masculine?
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Actually, you have mentioned that you DO care that the Bible damns gays. And that complaint of yours is precisely why I addressed the fact that the Bible DOES NOT DAMN all gays as modern society defines them. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
I was accused by you and others of being anti-gay because I'm a Christian. Well, I'm here to tell you that the Bible DOES NOT speak against all gays as you and modern society define gays. So, you're wrong; I'm not anti-gay in the sense and scope you claim.
I was accused by you and others of being anti-gay because I'm a Christian. Well, I'm here to tell you that the Bible DOES NOT speak against all gays as you and modern society define gays. So, you're wrong; I'm not anti-gay in the sense and scope you claim.
But you expect them to just live a straight life.
No, I expect them to be straight. That means don't sexually interact or plan such with members of your own sex. Those modernly-allegedly gay people are in the clear with God.
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
Sopho wrote:
You are anti-gay relationships.
I'm also anti-fornication for everyone, which is why I sit here year after year with no sex. I don't hypocritically make some excuse to personally get out of obeying God. I hold myself to that very difficult morality.
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Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
No, I didn't say you're abnormal in thinking this, I said you're abnormal in your personal sexuality as you've defined it on WP.
What do you mean?
If you mean because most people are straight, then yes.
No, I mean the whole thing -- your whole personal sexual profile is strange. It's so unusual that it makes little sense to me at all. I can imagine being gay, as I've mentioned, but I can't imagine being you.
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Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
LOL
This is even more ridiculous and funnier than the "You hate men" thing.
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Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Actually, you have mentioned that you DO care that the Bible damns gays. And that complaint of yours is precisely why I addressed the fact that the Bible DOES NOT DAMN all gays as modern society defines them. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
I was accused by you and others of being anti-gay because I'm a Christian. Well, I'm here to tell you that the Bible DOES NOT speak against all gays as you and modern society define gays. So, you're wrong; I'm not anti-gay in the sense and scope you claim.
I was accused by you and others of being anti-gay because I'm a Christian. Well, I'm here to tell you that the Bible DOES NOT speak against all gays as you and modern society define gays. So, you're wrong; I'm not anti-gay in the sense and scope you claim.
But you expect them to just live a straight life.
No, I expect them to be straight. That means don't sexually interact or plan such with members of your own sex. Those modernly-allegedly gay people are in the clear with God.
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
Sopho wrote:
You are anti-gay relationships.
I'm also anti-fornication for everyone, which is why I sit here year after year with no sex. I don't hypocritically make some excuse to personally get out of obeying God. I hold myself to that very difficult morality.
1. That's not straight. I might give up on having a relationship. I'm not planning one, I might have one though. But one day I might just give up. That doesn't make me straight.
2. Not the paedophiles thing again? CONSENT, stupid.
3. You can do what you want. I should be able to as well though. You at least were able to be with who you wanted to be with though. According to you, I never can.
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Are you saying there's no difference between men and women?
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
No, I didn't say you're abnormal in thinking this, I said you're abnormal in your personal sexuality as you've defined it on WP.
What do you mean?
If you mean because most people are straight, then yes.
No, I mean the whole thing -- your whole personal sexual profile is strange. It's so unusual that it makes little sense to me at all. I can imagine being gay, as I've mentioned, but I can't imagine being you.
You can't imagine being gay because you're not gay. Just like I can't imagine being straight. I could try, but I'd never get it right.
Of course you can't imagine being me, you're not me. I can't imagine being you.
What's so strange about me?
Sopho wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Yeah, who cares whether they man is feminine or masculine?
God.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Are you saying there's no difference between men and women?
There are no differences that are universal to EVERY man or EVERY woman. You can't say X, Y and Z apply to every woman. Everyone as an INDIVIDUAL is different.
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
You have been told this many times.
CONSENT!
One is harmful and the other is not.
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Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Yeah, who cares whether they man is feminine or masculine?
God.
And I don't believe in this imaginary god.
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
LOL
This is even more ridiculous and funnier than the "You hate men" thing.
No, Sopho's setting a double standard, and gets around it with legalese and speculation -- cites laws of consent, but then denies the authority of the law when it comes to gay marriage. You can't pick and choose, Soph. The law binds or it doesn't.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
If they are gay, why can't they be with the person/people they want to be with?
Why can't pedophiles be with the people they want to be with?
LOL
This is even more ridiculous and funnier than the "You hate men" thing.
No, Sopho's setting a double standard, and gets around it with legalese and speculation -- cites laws of consent, but then denies the authority of the law when it comes to gay marriage. You can't pick and choose, Soph. The law binds or it doesn't.
No I'm not. The law against paedophilia is to protect kids. Are you completely ret*d?
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It specifies both masculine-personality gay men and feminine-personality gay men, and condemns them both on the basis of gay sexual activity.
It's funny you mention this, you just remind us about the gender roles that existed at that time, and how women were viewed and were suppose to be, and how men were suppose to be.
Are you saying there's no difference between men and women?
LOL
Another funny thing you say.
You know what I mean, I suppose you are kidding, right? I don't think you are being serious, aren't you?
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