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08 Sep 2016, 11:57 am

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Nine out of ten Gorns prefer Hill, the tenth is undecided. Big Gorn turn out this year.

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At least Hillary has locked up the much-coveted Gorn vote


And Gorns are notoriously under-sampled in traditional polling.


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08 Sep 2016, 12:22 pm

That's not true, lots and lots of ragweeds being grown and pollen in the air. It is worse here than it is elsewhere as we don't get any freeze and there is a year-round growing season. Back in the day they thought it was a good place to be for respiratory issues because it was so dry but that was based on nothing, it is very dusty and there is a lot of pollution as well as the plant growth. Air quality wise this not a great place to live.

Clintonistas getting very defensive about questions about her health, probably too close to close to something Hillary doesn't want us to know or be talking about. She seems wholly unfit to be president mentally and physically, she is literally a puppet on strings. Anybody want to comment on her earpiece? Not known to where a hearing aid and I think it was only in one ear too, why would she need a hearing aid anyways when she was mic'd up so a huge crowd could hear? Is she really claiming to be that death? She's made these health issues an issue by the excuses she has made for her wrong doing, is she lying or dying?

That was the first soft of debate, went decent for Trump but was an unmitigated disaster for Hillary

Reports are now that the Clinton camp sent the questions she wanted to be asked at the Benghazi hearing to the Democratic chair, it is being speculated that she wore an earpiece during the hearing.



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08 Sep 2016, 1:09 pm

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That's not true, lots and lots of ragweeds being grown and pollen in the air. It is worse here than it is elsewhere as we don't get any freeze and there is a year-round growing season. Back in the day they thought it was a good place to be for respiratory issues because it was so dry but that was based on nothing, it is very dusty and there is a lot of pollution as well as the plant growth. Air quality wise this not a great place to live.

Clintonistas getting very defensive about questions about her health, probably too close to close to something Hillary doesn't want us to know or be talking about. She seems wholly unfit to be president mentally and physically, she is literally a puppet on strings. Anybody want to comment on her earpiece? Not known to where a hearing aid and I think it was only in one ear too, why would she need a hearing aid anyways when she was mic'd up so a huge crowd could hear? Is she really claiming to be that death? She's made these health issues an issue by the excuses she has made for her wrong doing, is she lying or dying?

That was the first soft of debate, went decent for Trump but was an unmitigated disaster for Hillary

Reports are now that the Clinton camp sent the questions she wanted to be asked at the Benghazi hearing to the Democratic chair, it is being speculated that she wore an earpiece during the hearing.


"is she lying or dying?" :lol:

Well now that's a serious question if I ever heard one. :roll:
Either you're trolling or you have fallen so far down the rabbit hole that no one but Alex Jones will be able to find you.

"she is literally a puppet on strings"

You do know what the word literally means right? :lol:



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08 Sep 2016, 1:28 pm

I'm done playing the personal insult game with you Luke, either stop or face consequences as others have because I don't want another 'warning' because I responded to someone else's insult.

Answer the question; is she lying about her health or is she in much worse health than she is admitting? We do know that she suffered a SEVERE concussion in 2012 which in her leaked emails the doctor said that "she would of suffered the same had she even been wearing a football helmet" of which she was hospitalized for weeks. The coughing, the bizarre behavior, the hiding from the public, the needing help up stairs and to be able to stand, it's circumstantial sure but again her main defense in the FBI investigation seems to be "I do not remember the security briefings because of the concussion" which is wholly ridiculous just like her saying that she didn't know the C on the documents she received stood for classified even tho she used that header herself countless amounts of times. The earpiece is just another thing to throw on the fire, it seems quite clear she was being fed answers even tho they were still terrible answers.

She apparently thought it was okay to destroy her emails with BleachBit and smash her blackberries with a hammer after being subpoenaed to turn them over. How is that not obstruction? She is a straight up gangster who 'burned the tapes' to hide the evidence of the play-for-play scheme involving the Clinton Foundation and the State Department, this may be exposed very very soon by Wikileaks! Julian Assange has said that when it is all send over with that his leaks would put Hillary in prison and do you not believe that considering what has already been revealed? That October Surprise I'm sure has you sweating bullets.



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08 Sep 2016, 2:06 pm

Watching Trump's speak right now, I think he's spot on with his belief in school choice and wants 'the money to follow the child' to allow the child to go to the public, private charter, magnate school, whatever which surely would of helped me.

Hillary I expect to be bought and paid for by the teacher's union, that was actually one thing the Obama's were actually not so bad on with pushing reform despite the union opposition.

As someone who went to failing inner city public schools and had private option that would helped my disability that was denied simply because I couldn't afford it and because I lived in the 1 county in the state that was exempt from having to pay for special education outside the district if services could not be provided. I will be forever bitter about this, I will forever hate that school administration, I don't know how things could of been different but it wouldn't of been worse.



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08 Sep 2016, 2:09 pm

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I'm done playing the personal insult game with you Luke, either stop or face consequences as others have because I don't want another 'warning' because I responded to someone else's insult.

Answer the question; is she lying about her health or is she in much worse health than she is admitting? We do know that she suffered a SEVERE concussion in 2012 which in her leaked emails the doctor said that "she would of suffered the same had she even been wearing a football helmet" of which she was hospitalized for weeks. The coughing, the bizarre behavior, the hiding from the public, the needing help up stairs and to be able to stand, it's circumstantial sure but again her main defense in the FBI investigation seems to be "I do not remember the security briefings because of the concussion" which is wholly ridiculous just like her saying that she didn't know the C on the documents she received stood for classified even tho she used that header herself countless amounts of times. The earpiece is just another thing to throw on the fire, it seems quite clear she was being fed answers even tho they were still terrible answers.

She apparently thought it was okay to destroy her emails with BleachBit and smash her blackberries with a hammer after being subpoenaed to turn them over. How is that not obstruction? She is a straight up gangster who 'burned the tapes' to hide the evidence of the play-for-play scheme involving the Clinton Foundation and the State Department, this may be exposed very very soon by Wikileaks! Julian Assange has said that when it is all send over with that his leaks would put Hillary in prison and do you not believe that considering what has already been revealed? That October Surprise I'm sure has you sweating bullets.


Yeah, I don't feel like answering a question that has no basis in reality. Besides the only options you gave me would have me agreeing with your premise, which I don't.

Another thing I noticed in your last post. That little C you mentioned was not a header, it was placed in amongst the body of text in the messages. The emails were improperly marked before they got to Clinton.

From politifact:
"Of the tens of thousands of emails the FBI reviewed, 81 email chains found on Clinton’s private servers included classified information, as determined by various U.S. intelligence agencies, according to a FBI report released Sept. 2. Just three email chains included some sort of classification marking: At least one paragraph preceded by the marking "(C)," indicating that those paragraphs were "confidential," the lowest level of classification. But none of the three had a header, footer or cover page further signaling that the emails contained confidential information.

Even though there was a "(C)" preceding the paragraphs, this information was not properly marked confidential because it did not include the header, FBI Director James Comey said in a July 7 hearing before Congress. It’s "reasonable," he said, that Clinton may not have realized these were classified"

By the way if you're getting warnings because of your responses then that's entirely on you.



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08 Sep 2016, 2:18 pm

You grasp at straws to defend the blatant breaking of the law by Hillary, you would of supported her even if she was indicted. You won't answer because you can't answer, Hillary is indefensible. Hillary is a lawyer, she knows when it is convenient to 'not recall' something when asked a question she doesn't want to answer which sounds a lot better than pleading the fifth. I do not believe she cannot recall so much but if she can't then she is not mentally or physically fit to be president so it's bad either way. Anybody else that did what Hillary did would be in prison, that soldier at the forum last night knew that and anybody else that is honest with themselves considering who the Obama administration has prosecuted would know that too.

Just wait until the deleted emails are revealed

DAMN YOU PUTIN!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! ! :lol:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... ealth.html

here is alt-right wing extremist and noted conspiracy theorist Carl Bernstein saying Hillary should release her medical records and spend an hour speaking with the press about her health to quell any rumors as well as releasing her Goldman Sach's speeches



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08 Sep 2016, 2:30 pm

Jacoby wrote:
You grasp at straws to defend the blatant breaking of the law by Hillary, you would of supported her even if she was indicted. You won't answer because you can't answer, Hillary is indefensible. Hillary is a lawyer, she knows when it is convenient to 'not recall' something when asked a question she doesn't want to answer which sounds a lot better than pleading the fifth. I do not believe she cannot recall so much but if she can't then she is not mentally or physically fit to be president so it's bad either way. Anybody else that did what Hillary did would be in prison, that soldier at the forum last night knew that and anybody else that is honest with themselves considering who the Obama administration has prosecuted would know that too.

Just wait until the deleted emails are revealed

DAMN YOU PUTIN!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! :lol:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... ealth.html

here is alt-right wing extremist and noted conspiracy theorist Carl Bernstein saying Hillary should release her medical records and spend an hour speaking with the press about her health to quell any rumors as well as releasing her Goldman Sach's speeches


So debunking your claim with actual testimony from Comey is "grasping at staws"? :roll: You'll never admit when you're wrong will you? No matter how clear it is that you are wrong you still unflinchingly cling to what you want to be true regardless of where the facts may lead.



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08 Sep 2016, 2:35 pm

Comey was wrong not to charge her and played politics, simple as that. Things will change when Trump is in office, they will have wished they did indict her then.



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08 Sep 2016, 2:40 pm

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Comey was wrong not to charge her and played politics, simple as that. Things will change when Trump is in office, they will have wished they did indict her then.


Ooh, great retort. :roll: :lol:

You know Comey is a Republican right?



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08 Sep 2016, 4:00 pm

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Comey was wrong not to charge her and played politics, simple as that. Things will change when Trump is in office, they will have wished they did indict her then.


Ooh, great retort. :roll: :lol:

You know Comey is a Republican right?


So, what does it matter? He was appointed and served under Obama, he was wrong in not charging Hillary as the evidence is clear that the law was broke. I don't care about Comey's politics beyond how it effects his job and his opinion' that it wasn't a prosecutable case and that there was no intent is not part of his job description, that consideration is irrelevant as the FBI does not prosecute these cases so it's just a matter of is there evidence that she broke the law or not and the excuses should come later as part of her defense but Comey thought he should be the judge and jury, surely from orders up top.

The leaks are proving me right whether you like it or not!



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08 Sep 2016, 4:02 pm

So true.Door to door pollsters usually get eaten.Along with Jehovah's Witnesses.

Darmok wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Nine out of ten Gorns prefer Hill, the tenth is undecided. Big Gorn turn out this year.

Darmok wrote:
At least Hillary has locked up the much-coveted Gorn vote


And Gorns are notoriously under-sampled in traditional polling.


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08 Sep 2016, 4:08 pm

Wow,I just looked it up.Apparently Arizona is the worst for allergens.I never would have guessed about the plant pollen.Dust I would expect.
I doubt either candidate is in perfect health just because of their ages.There is going to be natural wear and tear on the body.

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That's not true, lots and lots of ragweeds being grown and pollen in the air. It is worse here than it is elsewhere as we don't get any freeze and there is a year-round growing season. Back in the day they thought it was a good place to be for respiratory issues because it was so dry but that was based on nothing, it is very dusty and there is a lot of pollution as well as the plant growth. Air quality wise this not a great place to live.

Clintonistas getting very defensive about questions about her health, probably too close to close to something Hillary doesn't want us to know or be talking about. She seems wholly unfit to be president mentally and physically, she is literally a puppet on strings. Anybody want to comment on her earpiece? Not known to where a hearing aid and I think it was only in one ear too, why would she need a hearing aid anyways when she was mic'd up so a huge crowd could hear? Is she really claiming to be that death? She's made these health issues an issue by the excuses she has made for her wrong doing, is she lying or dying?

That was the first soft of debate, went decent for Trump but was an unmitigated disaster for Hillary

Reports are now that the Clinton camp sent the questions she wanted to be asked at the Benghazi hearing to the Democratic chair, it is being speculated that she wore an earpiece during the hearing.


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08 Sep 2016, 4:16 pm

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta ... 3651939329

Trump leading in a poll out of New Mexico, traditionally a deep blue state but it is also the home state of former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson so perhaps he gobbling up her support. Trump does well with a certain demographic of Hispanics(better than McCain or Romney at least) some of the most anti-illegal immigration people are Hispanic as it effects their communities the most and it is very upsetting to for somebody that did something the right to see people just wantonly break the law.



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08 Sep 2016, 4:20 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Comey was wrong not to charge her and played politics, simple as that. Things will change when Trump is in office, they will have wished they did indict her then.


Ooh, great retort. :roll: :lol:

You know Comey is a Republican right?


So, what does it matter? He was appointed and served under Obama, he was wrong in not charging Hillary as the evidence is clear that the law was broke. I don't care about Comey's politics beyond how it effects his job and his opinion' that it wasn't a prosecutable case and that there was no intent is not part of his job description, that consideration is irrelevant as the FBI does not prosecute these cases so it's just a matter of is there evidence that she broke the law or not and the excuses should come later as part of her defense but Comey thought he should be the judge and jury, surely from orders up top.

The leaks are proving me right whether you like it or not!


No, you're still wrong. You can claim you're right as much as you want but it doesn't make it true.



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08 Sep 2016, 4:25 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Comey was wrong not to charge her and played politics, simple as that. Things will change when Trump is in office, they will have wished they did indict her then.


Ooh, great retort. :roll: :lol:

You know Comey is a Republican right?


So, what does it matter? He was appointed and served under Obama, he was wrong in not charging Hillary as the evidence is clear that the law was broke. I don't care about Comey's politics beyond how it effects his job and his opinion' that it wasn't a prosecutable case and that there was no intent is not part of his job description, that consideration is irrelevant as the FBI does not prosecute these cases so it's just a matter of is there evidence that she broke the law or not and the excuses should come later as part of her defense but Comey thought he should be the judge and jury, surely from orders up top.

The leaks are proving me right whether you like it or not!


No, you're still wrong.


I'm not wrong and will have good laugh when Trump actually does 'lock her up', the whole email thing will be superfluous to the public corruption Hillary partook in at the State Department.

What do you think about Hillary destroying her emails with BleachBit and having her aids smash her blackberry devices with a hammer AFTER being subpoenaed? Why did she have the server in her basement anyways? It wasn't convenience as that has been thoroughly debunked so it seems clear the intent was to open government laws. Going to be real interesting when these deleted emails do get released...

Do you think Julian Assange should be executed now?