For 2012 if it were: Obama vs Palin?

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, wait, were you being serious?

You know, honestly I probably would end up voting for Palin if the choice came down to it. If only for the judges. Palin could screw us for 4 years, Obama stacking the court with more totalitarians could screw us for a generations.

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Which of Obama's pics so far are 'totalitarians,' by your estimation?

as compared to, say, Scalia and Alito?

10 minutes can be a lifetime in politics. There is no way to know who will be running. If someone tells you they do, they are bullshiting you. Ask this question in the spring or summer of 2011 and you will get a better answer.

Yes, Elena Kagan is SCARY. She thinks that the power of the commerce clause is unlimited. Her main philosophy is the expansion of government power.

Kagan was widely acknowledged as a moderate in the press, and the main complaint was that she didn't have a judicial background with which to judge her philosophy; do you have any evidence to support the extraordinary claim that she supports the unlimited expansion of government power?

Bless you LKL.

She's a moderate only in the sense that she supported Bush's terror policies such as the PATRIOT Act and the suspension of habeas corpus which are also a gross overreach of the federal government.



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I think it's pretty clear that she does not believe there on limitations on the power of the federal government. You can see it regardless of her attempts to dance around questions like all supreme court nominees do now since Robert Bork but sometimes no answer is an answer in it of itself.

Given the climate in the Senate, I have to disagree. If Kagan had said, "Salud," instead of, "Bless you," when someone sneezed, the Repubs. would have accused her of being atheistic and/or in favor of amnesty for illegal immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries.

Those hearings were notable mainly for the blustering of the Repubs. and for Kagan managing to keep her sense of humor most of the time.

In any case, the bills you accuse her of supporting were Republican bills; the idea that a Republican governor would be less likely to appoint justices that would uphold those bills is just ludicrous.

The questions seem pretty straight forward to me.

Supreme Court confirmations are something of a joke now. There is no real questions or vetting down. Don't these people realize that they're appointing these people to lifetime terms?

They do, but do not confuse politics with reality. They are often two separate, distinct things. With news 24 hours a day, all the world is a stage and a politician is preaching to his or her choir as much as anything else they are doing policy wise. Plus, how the Republican and Democrats question a prospective nominee is decided well in advance and is part of a much larger, cohesive message they are trying to convey to the public. Politicians and the apparatus that supports them is trying to make or remake reality. Remove the cameras and just allow reporters to sit in on the hearings, then may be things would be different.

But who knows. And if someone tells you they have the answer, they are full of BS.

http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001377.htm

This was the Republican position after an election where Bush lost the popular vote and Congress was pretty evenly divided.

Edit: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/surveillance-under-usa-patriot-act

The PATRIOT Act covered a lot more than calls going into or out of the United States.

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The power of No exceeds the power of Yes. Ain't democracy wonderful?

So what else is new?

ruveyn

Thanks ruveyn. It is a moot point, lets move on.

yes... why is it so funny?

I dunno about number5 but I think it's funny because she reminds me of every fame-whore I met out in Los Angeles who lie through their teeth and play as nice as possible to your face and lie behind your back. I mean the pandering is beyond obvious.