Aspergers and (dislike of) black culture?
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I know especially when all of the music I love was pretty much started by black blues/jazz musicians....I mean without them we would not have rock or heavy metal. Yet sadly I've heard sometimes if a black person likes rock or metal they get crap from other black people for having 'white' interests........I don't get it I mean why does ones skin color have to determine what they like?
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Much of "black culture" is elevated by the media to be "superior" to that of other ethic groups...which is insulting. Much of what is praised is glorifying the worst of the black community. This, in turn, is creating a negative "Luddite" movement where young blacks embrace poor language skills, poor work ethic, poor family ethic because it's "hip."
I personally think this is by design to hold black people back from achieving individual greatness, but that's my personal theory.
Even Bill Cosby was harsh on the black community for tolerating this trend.
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I sometimes argue with people about this 'black culture'. Its not a culture. Its a sub-culture created by those who required a consumer base. Its no different than Apple fans, Goths and those odd people that dress in animal suits and hump each other silly.
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Much of "black culture" is elevated by the media to be "superior" to that of other ethic groups...which is insulting. Much of what is praised is glorifying the worst of the black community. This, in turn, is creating a negative "Luddite" movement where young blacks embrace poor language skills, poor work ethic, poor family ethic because it's "hip."
I personally think this is by design to hold black people back from achieving individual greatness, but that's my personal theory.
Even Bill Cosby was harsh on the black community for tolerating this trend.
This. Bolded in black. (hah! look ! a pun!)
I sometimes argue with people about this 'black culture'. Its not a culture. Its a sub-culture created by those who required a consumer base. Its no different than Apple fans, Goths and those odd people that dress in animal suits and hump each other silly.
Goths were an East Germanic tribe of Scandinavian origin whose two branches, the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths, played an important role in the fall of the Roman Empire and the emergence of Medieval Europe. To day you have people claiming to be Goth when true Goths have ancestores of the Eeast Germanic Scandinavian origin like me

... do I get to wave my part Cherokee card, too?
If your cherokee then yes I guess idk but then again what does having AS and having a dislike for black culture have to do with anything?
None of it is related. I just found your announcement that you're part Cherokee incongruous.
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... do I get to wave my part Cherokee card, too?
If your cherokee then yes I guess idk but then again what does having AS and having a dislike for black culture have to do with anything?
None of it is related. I just found your announcement that you're part Cherokee incongruous.
As you can probally tell I have a lot of pride in my heritage my father is a memmeber of the Cherokee nation which is located in the good ol tar heel state North Carolina the first settelers in the state was the Cherokee people not sure what incongruous means so im googeling it now.
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Reading through this thread was interesting for me because I can see a lot of the parallels between what happens in north america and what happens in my home country.
A large portion of the complaints about "black culture" in this thread could just as easily be applied to anyone or any group who is on the lower / lowest part of the socio-economic scale. The racism is being mixed with classist attitudes essentially, much like I see in my home country.
The thing is that racism is designed to keep the people it is used against off balance, and more importantly in their place, particularly in terms of their power and their socio-economic standing. In that regard, it has obviously been very successful and will continue to be.
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I really like rap and to me its a main stream form of poetry which I also like. The ability some rap writers have with words can be likened to a "real" writer and I frequently get goosebumps when I hear great wording/rhyme scheme/topic etc. I recommend any aspie with a scientific lean to listen to the Poet Laureate triology of songs by Canibus.
I think in alot of ways, AS can be seen as the antithesis of the African-American stereotypical paradigm. I think its possible to characterize AS as extreme introversion and inhibition, and black culture seems to be extremely extroverted and uninhibited.
Are there any non-black people with AS who are especially fond of rap music or any aspect of contemporary black culture?
In my High School, many white kids liked things like Eminem and stuff like that. I used to feel like I was rebelling against alot of the preppy white kids who liked rap-music, backwards ball-caps, and urban slang. I felt like my rebellion was to embrace Euro-culture. I was wondering if other people with AS had some feelings on this?
We had lots of blacks bussed in to my HighSchool as well from the inner city and I was sort of put off by their hyper-social ways. There were a few black students who I was on good terms with on an individual basis, but it seemed like the black students as a group were sort of a massive negative presence and collective underacheivement. It would have been difficult for me to associate with them as they were often times loud, disrespectful, troublemongering, and that sort of thing in the hallways.
I went to a small rural elementary school, but I transferred to this bigger school district in the 7th grade where I was exposed to blacks and other minorites for the first time. I was bullied quite a bit and it wasn't long before I honestly wised up and stayed as far away from the black students as possible. I was bullied by white kids too and had all sorts of negative experiences with many groups of students. It was just an observational thing.
Things like rap music, loud music, and profanity were hard on my senses.
So I was just wondering how other AS people feel about black culture and all of this? This forum seems to be generally pretty liberal and I hope I don't get into a spat or anything but I've been thinking about this for a few days. I feel nervous about even posting this topic but I hope to generate a good honest conversation. I'm talking about critical feelings on black culture, not black people.
I'm a hardcore aspie and I think black cultcha is tight!
Overgeneralize much?
I'm not sure about that, but I notice in some hiring managers that back in the 80's when I was born they didn't care what color a person was, either for or against, and that was back in Texas. But since moving to Minnesota back in 2003, I've noticed that hiring managers do tend to care what "race" a person is, not in terms of discriminating against "people of color" or "immigrants" but instead a near exclusive preference for them above anyone else. Once I even worked with a manager, with the same melanin concentration as myself, and she'd go on and on about how mistreated all the minorities were and how this and that about how evil white people are and how all the minorities should be treated with favoritism so as to supposedly undo the wrongful treatment of the past. Unfortunately, that is also racism, another form of blind prejudice - judging ahead of time based upon cosmetic appearance or genealogy alone rather than upon any individual merit.
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I think in alot of ways, AS can be seen as the antithesis of the African-American stereotypical paradigm. I think its possible to characterize AS as extreme introversion and inhibition, and black culture seems to be extremely extroverted and uninhibited.
I dislike these cultural artifacts. They are base and irrational.
Ayn Rand once made this comparison: Apollonian vs. Dioneysian
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