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26 Mar 2011, 11:16 am

But 34% isn't that high, its like 1/3, compare it percentage wise to the rest of the country(74% gotten from wiki) and you have comparably less white people in the tea party. Or am I making some mathematical mistake, math isn't my strength, and also if it's 34% white christian what makes up the rest?

EDIT: I'm looking at the link now.
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So most black protestants haven't heard about the tea party, isn't that a bit much? Also the sample size for black protestants is 1/3 the white protestant, why? The catholic section doesn't even break down the minority opinions like the protestant does, I'm not sure what to think about that. Also are agnostics and atheists religious organizations now or where they put in simply for comparison? If so why is there no minority break up?

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26 Mar 2011, 11:32 am

Tim_Tex wrote:

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There are Christians, and then there are Christians. Most American Christians belong to mainline denominations, whereas evangelicals are a marginal group - though a noisy one, which garners much more political influence than their actual numbers justify. Even the more doctrinally conservative mainline churches are much more moderate and tolerant than their evangelical counterparts.

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I thought most American Christians were Catholic.

And the Episcopalians and ELCA Lutherans ordain LGBT pastors (Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Synod Lutherans do not ordain LGBT or female pastors).

The Catholics are the largest single denomination, but there are a lot of Protestant denominations that, put together, are much larger.

The PCUSA (Presbyterians) are currently voting to permit ordination of LGBT pastors.

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26 Mar 2011, 11:44 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWs6g3L3fkU[/youtube]

chomsky on why we shouldn't ridicule tea partiers.

Uh, I think Chomsky overestimated just how "middle America" working class the Tea Partisans are. From what I see, studies have shown that Tea Party supporters tend to have a somewhat higher educational level (which makes their political ignorance all the more contemptible) and median income than the American median. As a party of fact, it was Obama's '08 base that felt the biggest hit and just stayed home, while relatively well to do Tea Partisans flocked to the ballot box in droves.

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26 Mar 2011, 11:47 am

ruveyn wrote:

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I think you're missing the point....

What is the point? It is being asserted that having a mostly Caucasian organization is not a good thing. What is wrong with being most Caucasian? Do we require that all political parties have a statistical homomorphism to the entire country with regard to race and religion?

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I really love how you and many other people seem to completely strawman any usage of statistical ethnic/religious data into "ever group must be proportional". NO, that's not the claim, but it does show that the Tea Partisans aren't the completely "average Americans" they like to let out and claim to be identical with. If a group of scientologists started a PAC to "reclaim America for FREEDOM" and described themselves as "ordinary, hardworking Americans" and even DENIED a schew towards scientology as a religion in the media (as the Tea Partisans have), then a statistical study verifying their actual composition would be somewhat interesting. It wouldn't be a "veto" over their ideas, but it would put the group in perspective.

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26 Mar 2011, 12:23 pm

You know the funny thing is for all the left claims there is bigotry on the right, when you stop and think about it, you find that the left is actually the ones that are the bigots.

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26 Mar 2011, 12:59 pm

pandabear wrote:

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We had virtually no Catholics until the mid 19th centurey when the Irish started in immigrate.

That's not entirely true. Maryland had a fair number of Catholics when it was a colony.

The colony of Maryland was set up as a refuge for English catholics but so few of them took up Lord Baltimore's invitation to come and settle that he changed his policy and invited anyone - except puritans- to settle here in Maryland. So I dont think maryland ever became much of beachhead for Catholocism in America.

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26 Mar 2011, 2:57 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Tim_Tex wrote:

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I thought most American Christians were Catholic.

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What rock are you living under?
Our pioneer forefathers would kick your ass for saying that!
Accusing America of being a Papist nation!
America continues to be the Protestant nation and culture its always been.

We had virtually no Catholics until the mid 19th centurey when the Irish started in immigrate.

It wasnt until the mid 20th centurey that we had a Catholic president (JFK).

The largest single denomination in America is Roman Catholic but they are far from a majority.

However that may well change. If the Hispanic minority continues to grow we may well become a majority Catholic country in the not too distant future.

For the record, I never said that I thought Catholics were the biggest denomination in America. I was actually answering a previous post asking that. You seemingly have cut off the entire quote, otherwise, this would have been obvious. In truth, I was saying that Protestants collectively formed the largest group.

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26 Mar 2011, 3:11 pm

http://people-press.org/report/720/

Hmm, apparantly 8-9 % of Tea Party voters would like to see Obama reelected...

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26 Mar 2011, 3:30 pm

According to that the working class is in favour of obama whereas the richer people are opposed to him. Thats not the way it's supposed to work in american politics!

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26 Mar 2011, 3:36 pm

Dox47 wrote:

http://people-press.org/report/720/

Hmm, apparantly 8-9 % of Tea Party voters would like to see Obama reelected...

Then 8-9% of Tea Party members are actually sane!

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26 Mar 2011, 3:49 pm

The future doesn't look good for the Republican Party, if they can't find a way to get the Hispanic vote.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:00 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

http://people-press.org/report/720/

Hmm, apparantly 8-9 % of Tea Party voters would like to see Obama reelected...

Then 8-9% of Tea Party members are actually sane!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

One what -objective- study do you base that conclusion. Republicans are as sane as Democrats. The differ radically on what they consider good for the country.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

http://people-press.org/report/720/

Hmm, apparantly 8-9 % of Tea Party voters would like to see Obama reelected...

Then 8-9% of Tea Party members are actually sane!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

One what -objective- study do you base that conclusion. Republicans are as sane as Democrats. The differ radically on what they consider good for the country.

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I was talking about tea baggers generally being nutballs.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

I was talking about tea baggers generally being nutballs.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

One what objective, carefully constructed poll do you base that conclusion?

Your opinion is worth about the same as mine which is to say very little.

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26 Mar 2011, 4:47 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

You know the funny thing is for all the left claims there is bigotry on the right, when you stop and think about it, you find that the left is actually the ones that are the bigots.

Yeah, it's like when you complain about one group's bigotry, you become a bigot yourself.

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26 Mar 2011, 5:30 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

I was talking about tea baggers generally being nutballs.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

One what objective, carefully constructed poll do you base that conclusion?

Your opinion is worth about the same as mine which is to say very little.

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Still, it's my opinion. And to me, it still counts.

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