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03 Jun 2011, 6:28 am

A placental abruption can be small or large. It depends on how much of the placenta has come away from the uterine wall. A fetus can survive a small abruption, but a large one means the fetus doesn't get enough oxygen and nutrition to live. The blood that's supposed to be flowing to the fetus comes out of the mother's body instead.
This case sounds like a small abruption that became a complete abruption.

(Still not an abortion)



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03 Jun 2011, 6:38 am

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This case sounds like a small abruption that became a complete abruption.


Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.



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03 Jun 2011, 10:16 am

Philologos wrote:
as an example of language use that "the mother's or woman's" is intriguing.

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who and what and how determines that a belief is silly?


Women and mothers topic

Pregnant women(who do not have living children) and pregnant mothers (who do have lviing children).

My sister(who has had three abortions) was never a mother, though she was pregnant three times.

Beliefs are silly when they endanger lives. A doctor who does not believe in abortion and who is faced with a patient who will die without one harbours silly (and life threatening) beliefs.


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03 Jun 2011, 11:03 am

As I assumed yout to mean. It is a very interesting expressioln which would not occur to everyone.

Beliefs, you say, are silly when they endanger lives.

Are there any life-endangering beliefs you exempt from silliness? One sample suggestion for evaluation more or less random, "The Vikings [or Hurons or Mongols or Terrorists or Zombies - choose your preferred attacker] must at all costs be prevented from taking my children"

Is a belief that does not endanger life exempt from silliness? One random sample for evaluation, "Turning around three times before leaving the house will bring me good luck."

I am suspecting that your criteria are a bit broader based than simply effect on mortality.



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03 Jun 2011, 12:16 pm

Philologos wrote:
As I assumed yout to mean. It is a very interesting expressioln which would not occur to everyone.

Beliefs, you say, are silly when they endanger lives.

Are there any life-endangering beliefs you exempt from silliness? One sample suggestion for evaluation more or less random, "The Vikings [or Hurons or Mongols or Terrorists or Zombies - choose your preferred attacker] must at all costs be prevented from taking my children"

Is a belief that does not endanger life exempt from silliness? One random sample for evaluation, "Turning around three times before leaving the house will bring me good luck."

I am suspecting that your criteria are a bit broader based than simply effect on mortality.


Dear Phil...topic

I love a good debate based on word usage. And I will continue to state beliefs that endanger lives are silly(and dangerous).

Are all beliefs silly? Possibly. And some are stupid, as well as dangerous. Religious ones are the worst for stupidity and danger. If you want to believe in stupidity, then that is your prerogative. Whatever turns your crank.

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03 Jun 2011, 12:48 pm

I have no crank nor axe to grind. I have certain beliefs most of then unpublished - often unpublishable - which are by my set of definitions as little silly as ceaseless and effortful vigilance and revision can get them. Which are of no relevance here, any more than yours.

I am simply interested to know more about your standards for silly belief.

In my usage, "silly" is certainly not limited to the life-endangering nor even to my assent. My practical inability to help a dear one remove something from the eye is silly.

That of course is not a belief, strictly, but my sense that English speakers who round the entirety of the vocalic component of "two" are mentally and socially inferior - which is just short of bigotry if YOU are looking in - is certainly a silly belief even though it is hard to imagine how it could endanger lives.

And in my beliefs, there are some things which are worse than death, and I would not call that silly.

I am NOT - important disclaimer - here advocating any attitude toward any belief nor any particular definition, merely gatherin data, as is my wont, if you will.



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03 Jun 2011, 5:16 pm

Beliefs that endanger lives cannot be silly, as life-threatening situations are not silly.
IMHO



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03 Jun 2011, 7:05 pm

I only support abortion in this case.