Homeopathy is stronger than antidepresants/antipsychotics

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(faceplant) Sorry...



When you get a a death sentence and someone tells you it can alleviate some of the symptoms, I am pretty sure anyone suffering from it might get something positive from it after all. This happens all the time when you have that pain button at your hospital bed and you think all that morphine is going through your system when in reality only a small amount has and the button does not work anymore for a time. Still no better than a placebo in that case either.

how does the water forget the poo?

No one has answered my question a couple pages earlier of how waste water treatment plants work. They are still thinking about it I guess.

http://dirtpony.com/archives/101

traumeel. homepathic, FDA approved, and it works FAR better than asper cream.

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I am getting ANGRY! This is my FIFTH attempt to post this response. BAD BAD conndection

A. I did not see [and still cannot find] the poist you refer to [bad connection, lots of skipped or skimmed posts]

B. Hahnemann likely used well water but today's practice tends to go with distilled.

C. Not my personal knowledge or research, but sourcers of the more reliable class claim the "memorizing:" - bad term, but use it for now since it has come up] gets undone with time or energy input - light, heat, etc.

D. Equally, claim is any preexisting "memories" in the water get undone in the potentization process.

E. Serious care is taken to avoid introducing other "memory" source substances during the potentization.

So, theory says you should be clearer of contamination in a properly prepared remedy than you are qith a glas water from your tap.

On the 6x issue:

A. Although Classical Homeopathy generally prescribes on the basis of the simillimum and generally uses diluted and potentized substances as remedies, "homeopathy" refers at base to the prescription.philosophy ot matching rather than neutralizing symptoms. Prescribing on that basis WITHOUT the use of dilute potentized remedies is homeopathic. Using dilute potentized remedies chosen to SUPPRESS symptoms is not homeopathic.

B. 6x is a rather low dilution and may include currently detectable traces of the base substances. It is not the same, however, as a simple dilute solution. The difference lies in the potentization during the process.of dilution.

C. Some prefer [I know of one on the West Coast, a very good worker indeed, who is the main reason our Parkinson friend is not worse than he is] to use low potencies, at least in the early stages, since they do not dig as deep in the first instance or last as long.

D. Which is why, if our friend was given a single shot of 6x Stramonium, I am VERY dubious - even with a VERY sensitive subject like Herself, no way would I expect an initial 6x dose to give effects lasting three months.

E. Note that even at the 6x level, according to the references the action of a homeopathic potentized dilution is often different - sometimes nearly opposite - that to be expected of a simple diluted herbal medicine.

Homeopathy is worthless and a fraud.

A homeopathic preparation is supposed to have been so diluted that it no longer contains any molecules of the original substance - the water is supposed to contain a 'memory' of the substance that is effective. Nonsense, of course.

It has no basis in science, meaning that there is no plausible mechanism for it and that the results of its claimants can not be reproduced.

Any beneficial effects that a homeopathic preparation has had are the result of the placebo effect or a contaminated batch (preparation conditions and methods are notoriously sloppy).

Some purportedly homeopathic preparations contain measurable quantities of drugs or medications that can injure people who are not aware that the preparation actually contains anything other than water.

Do not take any homeopathic preparations.

In Out In Out In Out

And Truth remains through it all, over it all, under it all.

Alexa Ray Joel tried to kill herself by overdosing on traumeel.

Too bad no active ingredient means that it does nothing, even in quantities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Ray_Joel

At least it is a documented case of homeopathy saving a life.

lol.

BTW FDA only approved it because it has no side effects. Claims that it is far more effective are anecdotal and stupid. In order for it to have a real effect, we would have to dismiss all the current laws of physics and molecules. It is just a complete scientific implausibility.

Gee - try reading critically.

First - Traumeel and most if not all of the Heel products ARE NOT classical homeopathic remedies. They typically include several substances at very low potencies - where the dilution is minimal. WHICH means yes, overdosing is very possible. Alexa was lucky - or unlucky if you think suicide is fine.

Second - you will find even some highup homeopaths saying the "no side effects" thing. But as I have said, that is hogwash. Evewn the remedies at potencies where there in theory is not one molecule of the substance present you DO get side effects.

If the FDA approves something on the basis that mainstream science says it is NOTHING without side effects, then they are fools. They need a serious homeopath on the board.

Then I suppose that we should start staffing medical clinics with faith-healers, and perhaps we should revive the lost art of phrenology!

And let's not forget to have a trained psychic working for the director's board for the FBI, and perish the thought of leaving out astrologers in treating people with mental illnesses.

Oh, and maybe we should make it a rule that surgeons must work in concert with professional chirurgeons! After all, it wouldn't be fair to chirurgeons if surgeons were allowed to take all of the credit for healing the patient, just because some scientist somewhere disagrees with him! We shouldn't be so close-minded as to shut down the chirurgeon's point-of-view, after all.

Yeah, it's highly important that we be respecting and affirming toward all the witch doctors, voodoo dancers and pot-smoking reiki dickshits out there.

Sure, that would mean allowing people to sell tap-water next to actual drugs, but let's not let a silly thing like science get in the way of creating a balanced, harmonious approach to healing!

DO you know the five precepts of Reiki? If you did and live by them then you will have no need to make the ^ comment now.
I'll say this in Rōmaji as you have no respect for Reiki teachers and practitioners, Kyō dake wa: Hito ni shinsetsu ni.

BTW I'm an attuned Reiki Master Teacher who done not smoke pot!

There is no empirical evidence that Faith healing actually works (or that it does anything).

But at least it is not as bad as homeopathy.

I am reminded of two things - one from the playmates of my childhood:

"I know something you don't know!"

One from a story in a childhood book of Number 1 Son's [the Two Rocks, I think is the title]:

"We don't know, and we never will."

Unfortunately, politics being what it is, the medical tradition that used drugs it KNOWS are deleterious to turn our Parkinson's friend into a stammering paralytic is allowed by a beneficent government with only our best interests at heart and no regard for pressure groups to block his access to a medical tradition that [till he fell into their hands] reversed his physical decline and relieved his paranoia.

[James puts on his doctor hat]

I simply couldn't bring myself to wade through 10 pages of conjecture about homeopathy. (So thank you for putting the That Mitchell & Webb Look clip on page one.

But I will share a few of my thoughts, gleaned from a few years of medical practice.

1) Placebo effects are real effects.

Placebos don't "trick" a patient's brain into making the patient feel better. Placebos can demonstrate a real, clinically observable, mitigation in the presentation of some symptoms. It doesn't matter whether the placebo is homeopathic product, prayer or a change in environment--patients whose morale is higher tend to demonstrate better recovery.

2) Placebo effects have a different scale of action

For all that placebo effects are real, they are generally mild; whereas the clinical impact of drugs tends to be much more observable. (Particularly as we tend to know what effect we are looking for when monitoring the effectiveness of drug therapies). But by the same token, because their effect is so strong, drugs can bring with them a host of side effects which can, in some cases, contraindicate further use.

3) Not all homeopathic remedies are frauds

Some (I couldn't guess what percentage) homeopathic remedies are based on long familiarity with traditional custom and practices. For example, willow bark and leaves and spiraea have been used as a specific for headache since antiquity--and the active ingredient in this is salicylic acid, from which we derive acetylsalicylic acid--better known to most of us as Aspirin. Indeed, the name aspirin comes from the old botanical name for spiraea.

But by far the most important thought that I have on the matter is this:

4) Patients are in charge of their own health care, not their physicians

If I am presented with a patient with disease, I can recommend a therapy--but I cannot force the patient to follow my advice. I cannot prevent a patient from relying on alternative approaches. There are many circumstances in which my discussions with patients will include phrases like, "If it's not bothering you, it's not bothering me and we will leave it alone," "You know your body best," and, "Go ahead and try that approach. Keep an eye on things and if you aren't seen any improvement, come back and see me and we will discuss it some more."

Unfortunately, many, many more of my conversations with patients include, "Why do you think that you have [condition X]?" or, "Why do you want me to prescribe [drug Y] for you?"

The only time that I have power over a patient occurs when the patient presents a disease subject to quarantine.