What's so bad about abstinence?

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more baseless propaganda or do you have anything to back up this vacuous bs?

the first times i had sex (actually more like the first time with any partner) is going to be awkward in all kinds of ways, it might be very good but chances are you will have better sex when you learn eachothers bodies and know what eachother wants.

Just who the hell told you that? There is no legitimate source backing that tripe up.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8476971

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/preven ... nence.html
This webpage stated that abstinence is the BEST WAY TO PREVENT pregnancy.

I mean really. the only thing condoms and all that crap does is make sex less enjoyable, less safe, and less controllable. The only reason people don't like abstinence is because they put themselves in a position where they can't resist temptation.

I have also been addicted to vore in the past, and it wasn't pleasant. I am sure it will come back to bite me in the butt.

Also, do any of you read? Just look up the facts. AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND FOR ONCE. DON'T KEEP OUT RESOURCES THAT CONTRADICT YOUR PREJUDICES. Latex condoms always let HIV through. LOOK IT UP.

so an uneven sample and a small sample size (all admitted by your very report in the summary no less)
says that there is a 4,4% breakage rate and that is suddenly a high risk?

furthermore out of those 4,4% how many actually leads to any "incidents" be it pregnancy or std,
one source simply wont cut it, especially when it admits itself it could have been better done.

and you are right abstinence is the only way to be 100% sure unless you had a vasectomy or your partner is sterile, but that still doesnt say anything about anything else.

please show us some evidence for your HIV through microscopic holes propaganda now that you are at it, that was the worst part.

Last edited by Oodain on 28 Sep 2011, 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

In a word: NO.
Anyone who's a veteran of the sack can tell you that the first time is never particularly great.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with waiting till marriage, or at least till you're ready or in love. But lying about condoms and masturbating is hardly a respectable means of doing it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

http://www.qakey.com/womens-health/condoms_work_97.html

It does say that condoms are 97% effective in preventing AIDS. Here is a question: is 3 people dying out of 100 acceptable? You sicko. That 3 percent makes all the difference, and they can be saved with abstinence.

When it comes to innocent lives, even .01% of people surveyed makes a difference when the alternative of zero fatalities and pregnancies is humanly possible with abstinence.

Utter nonsense.
http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/416?task=view
http://www.tht.org.uk/informationresour ... x/condoms/
http://www.avert.org/condoms.htm

And any number of others which don't rely on asserting some bogus moral standard as their main er, thrust.

That 97% safety ratio thing that condom makers put on their product is just a means of covering their ass if the unthinkable somehow happens, which they can use for their defense in court. The fact of the matter is, condoms are 100% safe.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Still shutting your eyes to the facts, I see.

I think that's your own reflection you see, my friend.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

On a completely unrelated not over9000 is a phrase used by 4chan folk when they are trolling.
This has nothing to do with anyone personally just a piece of trivia.

Still waiting...

And over9000 is absolutely wrong in his assertions about permeability of condoms to HIV. Condoms are impermeable to electrons, which are vastly smaller than HIV. Try filling a condom with water--any water leaking out? No? That's because something the size of a water molecule cannot permeate the condom. Try blowing one up. Any air leaking out? No? That's because the molecules of the various gasses in the atmosphere cannot permeate the condom. An HIV is many orders of magnitude larger than an electron, a water molecule or a molecule of a gas in the atmosphere. If a condom leaks, it is because the condom has become broken. Most often, that is the result of misuse. It is crucial that men and women both understand how to properly used condoms in order for them to be effective.

As for the broader matter, over9000 is both absolutely right, and absolutely wrong, and seeking to disguise the absolutely wrong behind the absolutely right.

First the correct part: you cannot conceive if you don't have intercourse (leaving aside assisted reproduction), and your chances of contracting a sexually transmitted infection are vastly reduced.

But over9000 is making the fundamental error of looking at sexual activity, pregnancy and STIs as a closed system. Abstinence may well create a complete barrier to pregnancy. But it also is a contributing cause to anxiety disorders, depression and other mental health concerns.

Sexual activity should be approached in a responsible, careful fashion. It should be negotiated and consensual. It should be engaged in always mindful of the risks, and with appropriate steps taken to mitigate those risks.

Abstinence is not the only approach. It may be a suitable one for those who choose it--but its imposition, whether by law, custom or social pressure is uncritical and runs the risks of being equally or more unhealthy than the risks sought to be avoided.

lol

They most certainly are NOT! I speak from experience on this one...

Safe for anyone who doesn't have a latex allergy. My condolences if that happened to you.

I don't have a latex allergy, nor does my partner, and neither of us have ever had an STD.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

I'll put it this way: We're ok and we're prepared to deal with it. Younger people might not always be so ready if condoms fail.