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26 Nov 2012, 5:02 pm

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when I was a kid, my grandmother tried to get me to do things that I didn't want to by saying, 'A lady would...' (spend half an hour fixing her hair, wear uncomfortable clothes, go to long, boring church sermons...) or 'a lady doesn't...' (play outside, get her knees dirty from looking at bugs, drink from a bottle or a can...)
By the time I was four, I had decided that I wanted no part of being a "lady."


Been there,I did not like dolls,I wanted to dig in the dirt,climb trees,and get in the creek.My mom did not want me to be a "tomboy",she would round up these very sweet(but boring) girls that she wanted me to play with,they were so "ladylike" (dull and unimaginative),I always devised a way to rid myself of the pests such as pushing them out of the swing or letting the chiuahahas bite them.They only came over once,heh-heh.
I do lots of my own chores,stack wood,chop kindling,mow,and I now have a small rechargeable chain saw so I can cut some of my own wood.I dont expect a man to show up and do these things for me.And if I can't do it I am happy to pay someone,I dont expect freebies because I am a girl.



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26 Nov 2012, 5:38 pm

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Eventually it will either be your problem or you will die young.

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So what?

It is still BS to think that being old is an excuse for being sexist. It is not.

If when I am too old I am too pro-human and discriminate about my grand daughter's robot boyfriend, so be it. I hope I get called out on that. Else how will I learn?

That's something isn't it? Thinking that old people can't learn or improve. That's in fact discriminative too.


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27 Nov 2012, 6:15 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Eventually it will either be your problem or you will die young.

ruveyn

So what?

It is still BS to think that being old is an excuse for being sexist. It is not.

If when I am too old I am too pro-human and discriminate about my grand daughter's robot boyfriend, so be it. I hope I get called out on that. Else how will I learn?

That's something isn't it? Thinking that old people can't learn or improve. That's in fact discriminative too.

I don't think anyone is assuming an older person can't learn or improve. It's more a matter of picking one's fights. There are a lot more sexist - and damaging - things one can do than offer someone a seat. I'd rather make a big deal out of true big deals, and avoid hurting someone's feelings who is just trying to be nice.



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27 Nov 2012, 8:07 pm

I don't think the old guy meant any harm. It would be weird, though, if a guy my own age offered his seat to me. I might feel a bit insulted then, or think that he was hitting on me. I guess because I would assume that he would know that that isn't necessary.


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30 Nov 2012, 7:27 pm

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I do wonder, what's OliveOilMom's definition of a lady?


A lady isn't just your stereotypical feminine woman. Far from it. I know a girl who does auto body work for a living, hunts, fishes, doesn't wear makeup and always wears jeans, tshirts and boots, and she is a lady to her fingertips. She may do things that are "unladylike" such as drinking beer out of a can and burping, but unladylike doesn't mean not a lady.

Ladylike is how a woman acts, not who she is. The Junior League and every sorority on the campus at UA is filled with ladylike girls, but that isn't to say they are ladies. Some are far from ladies.

A lady is someone who genuinely wants to make others feel comfortable. She is someone who will sacrifice things for herself sometimes to help others. She is someone who actually cares what others think of her, and of themselves, and would rather lift them up than put them down. She sees manners as a means to make others feel at ease, rather than lord her own knowledge of etiquitte over them and use it as a weapon to show her higher social standing (if in fact she has one)

A lady isn't always ladylike, or feminine. She could be the epitome of Southern grace and charm, or she could be a feminist military solider in a combat setting, or she could she a New Age type who doesn't shave her legs or arms or even take a bath. That doesn't matter. What matters is her intentions, and her character.

Believe it or not, even with all the crazy things I do, I am a lady. I may not be ladylike but about 30% of the time, but that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not I am a lady.

ETA; If you have ever seen the show "Designing Women" you will note that most of those girls were ladylike. Suzanne Sugarbaker was extremely ladylike, as was her sister Julia. Suzanne was NOT a lady, by any means. Julia however, was to me, the ultimate lady and one who I would love to be like. If you watch the show, she conducts herself always with grace and charm but she doesn't take sh*t one tiny bit. She's a feminist and has very strong political views. However, while she does state them just as strong as any man I've ever heard, she does so with eloquence.


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30 Nov 2012, 8:50 pm

I don't really think about chivalry as an obligation, I'm just nice to women because I want to be. Likewise I do my best to be courteous and respectful to all people I run into on a daily basis. This is simply how I was brought up. If one wants to call it chivalry I don't really care, it won't affect how I treat people.

Also, I only give up my seat to seniors, pregnant women and disabled or injured people. I don't see why I should give up my seat for someone fully capable of standing just because they've got a sweet ass and rockin titties


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30 Nov 2012, 8:56 pm

^^^^^^^You could offer them a seat on your lap,either you score big time or you get slapped :lol:



30 Nov 2012, 10:31 pm

I had always thought the word "gender" was used to avoid confusing the 2 meanings of the word 'sex'. Sex as an action versus sex as a characteristic. Then again the politically correct, postmodernist left has decided that gender should be defined as a mutable characteristic. That is, the roles and regulations that society allocates based on your biological sex. They have also redefined the word "minority" to mean any marginalized group, even if they are more than 50% of the population!



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01 Dec 2012, 11:09 am

Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^^You could offer them a seat on your lap,either you score big time or you get slapped :lol:


I like the way you think!


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01 Dec 2012, 12:20 pm

LKL wrote:
when I was a kid, my grandmother tried to get me to do things that I didn't want to by saying, 'A lady would...' (spend half an hour fixing her hair, wear uncomfortable clothes, go to long, boring church sermons...) or 'a lady doesn't...' (play outside, get her knees dirty from looking at bugs, drink from a bottle or a can...)
By the time I was four, I had decided that I wanted no part of being a "lady."



LOL, I don't blame ya! :P