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26 Dec 2013, 2:07 pm

^^^^What this "your kind?"I'm predominately white,Southern,gun owner,have a freezer full of deer meat,occasional participation in religious ceremonies.And I'm very conservative about water and resources. :D
Oh no it's not over.Its nowhere near being over.
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26 Dec 2013, 2:40 pm

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^^^^What this "your kind?"I'm predominately white,Southern,gun owner,have a freezer full of deer meat,occasional participation in religious ceremonies.And I'm very conservative about water and resources. :D
Oh no it's not over.Its nowhere near being over.
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"Your kind" meaning people that wish it were the 60's so they can put on their hippie costumes go protest something.

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Oh no it's not over.Its nowhere near being over.

Not if you never let it be over. As soon as one thing is over or close enough to it you all convince some other group they are being marginalized or disenfranchised and go on the war path for them.
I think I've covered this enough. Next....


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26 Dec 2013, 3:04 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... p=features
"Rev" Jesse Jackson has commented about this, he wants a meeting with the CEO of A & E.
I wonder what non-sense he is planning to stir up this time. We were lucky riots didn't break out in Florida last summer.



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26 Dec 2013, 4:12 pm

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^^^^What this "your kind?"I'm predominately white,Southern,gun owner,have a freezer full of deer meat,occasional participation in religious ceremonies.And I'm very conservative about water and resources. :D
Oh no it's not over.Its nowhere near being over.
http://www.kkk.com


"Your kind" meaning people that wish it were the 60's so they can put on their hippie costumes go protest something.

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Oh no it's not over.Its nowhere near being over.

Not if you never let it be over. As soon as one thing is over or close enough to it you all convince some other group they are being marginalized or disenfranchised and go on the war path for them.
I think I've covered this enough. Next....

I'm not wearing a hippie costume,except maybe on Halloween.I never attend protests in tie dye.
So we should just all ignore the big Klavern next door?Think that will make it go away?
And there is no shortage of things to protest,but I haven't been to one in awhile.The last was an anti-herbicide one at the Electric co-op.And before you do an eye roll about herbicide,it didn't help those service men and women out to get dosed with agent orange,now did it.See, the liberals have to look out for your well being,or you all would just poison yourself.You should be grateful. :)


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26 Dec 2013, 4:53 pm

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http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/26/phil-robertson-jesse-jackson-says-more-offensive-than-rosa-parks-driver/?intcmp=features
"Rev" Jesse Jackson has commented about this, he wants a meeting with the CEO of A & E.
I wonder what non-sense he is planning to stir up this time. We were lucky riots didn't break out in Florida last summer.


this controversy has really jumped the shark



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26 Dec 2013, 5:24 pm

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this controversy has really jumped the shark

I agree the recent acts by Cracker Barrel indicate that but unfortunately some don't believe that it has and are still in it merely for personal gain.



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26 Dec 2013, 6:01 pm

Jacoby wrote:
AntDog wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/26/phil-robertson-jesse-jackson-says-more-offensive-than-rosa-parks-driver/?intcmp=features
"Rev" Jesse Jackson has commented about this, he wants a meeting with the CEO of A & E.
I wonder what non-sense he is planning to stir up this time. We were lucky riots didn't break out in Florida last summer.


this controversy has really jumped the shark

The gay bashing was bad enough but what does any of this have to do with race? There's nothing in the Bible about civil rights. The guy who said it just sounds ignorant. Simple solution, ignore him.



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26 Dec 2013, 6:03 pm

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Frankly, this is why "reality TV" should be criminal to produce.

Go out and experience the real world....don't waste your time living someone else's (dramatically enhanced) life.

Remember, Honey Boo Boo? I didn't know what that was until someone mentioned it on talk radio. I looked up a clip on YouTube and couldn't understand how such a white trash porker like that was such a sensation.

Are people's lives really that empty that they get fulfillment out of watching junk like that?

My parents criticize all the video game playing I do. Well, at least that's me doing something marginally creative (creating a character and playing it out). Sitting in front of the "idiot box" and scarfing down the latest "made for mass consumption" human garbage just makes no sense to me.

I've no interest in Duck Dynasty or any other reality TV show. I ride a motorcycle, I couldn't care less for Orange County Choppers or any of the other "bike building" reality TV shows. The one time I caught it, I couldn't believe anyone would want to watch such overacted drivel (if those guys are really that screwed up in real life, how did they ever build a business). Other guys who ride had the same attitude. Yeah, the bikes they made might be interesting to see, but watching the phoney drama was nauseating.

Somebody else's boring show featuring self indulgent types who don't ever shave. These people have too much time on their hands.



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26 Dec 2013, 9:41 pm

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There are links posted and sonofghandi posted some of his quotes.


Okay, I finally found the article.

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/televis ... rentPage=1


It didn't bother me, really. There are lots and lots of people who talk like he does and who think like he does. He's entitled to his own perspective, such as it is.

I think that it is silly to take him seriously, and turn this into a major uproar.

Maybe the author of the GQ article could have just not included those particular quotes.

Does Mr. Robertson talk like this on his TV show?



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27 Dec 2013, 2:37 am

Here's the DD folks before their ZZ Top in camo makeovers:

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They're a bunch of college educated millionaires running a very profitable business, they just also happen to play backwoods swampbillies on TV.
http://starcasm.net/archives/185517


This is marketing, nothing more.


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27 Dec 2013, 2:53 am

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Here's the DD folks before their ZZ Top in camo makeovers:

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They're a bunch of college educated millionaires running a very profitable business, they just also happen to play backwoods swampbillies on TV.
http://starcasm.net/archives/185517


This is marketing, nothing more.

Acting ignorant in the media is part of their marketing scheme? I saw a whole cart full of Duck Dynasty cookies at Wal Mart marked from $3.99 to $1.00 and still no one is buying them. Why are people thinking this is good for their business? There's a surplus of Duck Dynasty merchandise. You cannot mark it down low enough to get people to buy it. If anything, this guy is causing less sales, not more.



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27 Dec 2013, 3:07 am

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Acting ignorant in the media is part of their marketing scheme? I saw a whole cart full of Duck Dynasty cookies at Wal Mart marked from $3.99 to $1.00 and still no one is buying them. Why are people thinking this is good for their business? There's a surplus of Duck Dynasty merchandise. You cannot mark it down low enough to get people to buy it. If anything, this guy is causing less sales, not more.


Maybe at your Walmart, mine and much of the web was sold out. Cracker Barrel pulled their merch, and had to put it back after their customers told them what they thought about the move.

Who was watching this show thinking these guys were anything but conservative Christians with all the baggage that comes with that label? A&E PR execs seem to have been the last to find out. They didn't insult the people that were/are most likely to watch and support the show, you can see from the net reaction that it's been just the opposite, the people who are mad are not potential customers.

This is just the shock rock playbook in reverse; do you think Marylin Manson or Alice Cooper every worried about losing their Christian audience when writing their songs and planning their stage shows? Phil Robertson isn't sweating the branded camo backpacks and duck calls he isn't selling to coastal liberals either.


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27 Dec 2013, 4:24 am

Just for comparison's sake, this is what happens when you offend the people that actually buy your product:

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/destr ... ears-after

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Spoken 10 days before the beginning of the Iraq War, the backlash took the Dixie Chicks from the biggest concert draw in country music to relative obscurity in country music in a matter of weeks.

Despite numerous clarifications and apologies from Natalie Maines and the Dixie Chicks, a full on boycott of their music was called for by pro-Bush, pro-war, and pro-American groups. Their single “Landslide” went from #10 on the Billboard charts, to #44 in 1 week, and the next week fell off the charts completely. Radio stations who played any Dixie Chicks songs were immediately bombarded with phone calls and emails blasting the station and threats of boycotts if they continued. Even radio DJ’s and programmers who sympathized with the Dixie Chicks were forced to stop playing them from the simple logistics nightmare the boycott created. Some DJ’s who played the Dixie Chicks were fired.

Dixie Chicks CD’s were rounded up, and in one famous incident were run over by a bulldozer. Concerts were canceled in the US as the Dixie Chicks couldn’t sell tickets, and rival concerts were set up that would take Dixie Chicks tickets in exchange. The Dixie Chicks lost their sponsor Lipton, and The Red Cross denied a million dollar endorsement from the band, fearing it would draw the ire of the boycott. The Dixie Chicks also received hundreds of death threats from the incident.

The boycott eventually lead to the virtual demise of the band. They went on hiatus in 2008, though their bounce back album in 2006 produced by Rick Rubin called Taking The Long Way went gold in its first week, debuting at #1 on the Billboard country charts despite absolutely no radio play.


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27 Dec 2013, 4:59 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Here's the DD folks before their ZZ Top in camo makeovers:

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They're a bunch of college educated millionaires running a very profitable business, they just also happen to play backwoods swampbillies on TV.
http://starcasm.net/archives/185517


This is marketing, nothing more.

Acting ignorant in the media is part of their marketing scheme? I saw a whole cart full of Duck Dynasty cookies at Wal Mart marked from $3.99 to $1.00 and still no one is buying them. Why are people thinking this is good for their business? There's a surplus of Duck Dynasty merchandise. You cannot mark it down low enough to get people to buy it. If anything, this guy is causing less sales, not more.


If it's stopped selling, then it's because of what one of the FB pages supporting Phil said. It said if you want to support him, then buy Duck Commander brand because Duck Dynasty brand sales goes to A&E and not the family.


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27 Dec 2013, 10:14 am

Maybe they want to stop filming to get rid of those beards.They would be miserable in the heat down there.I can understand why a man would want a beard in the Yukon,but not the Deep South.It just looks like a nest for chiggers and ticks.
I haven't been to the local Mal Wart,but I've yet to see anyone here wearing one of their shirts.
People here just wear plain camo.You would never hunt in one of those shirts,it would scare the game off. :D
The food banks will get all the left over Duck cookies,the very poor will have to eat them.
My anger at them partly because it's just another show that portrays Southerners as dumb asses.


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27 Dec 2013, 2:32 pm

Dox47 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Acting ignorant in the media is part of their marketing scheme? I saw a whole cart full of Duck Dynasty cookies at Wal Mart marked from $3.99 to $1.00 and still no one is buying them. Why are people thinking this is good for their business? There's a surplus of Duck Dynasty merchandise. You cannot mark it down low enough to get people to buy it. If anything, this guy is causing less sales, not more.


Maybe at your Walmart, mine and much of the web was sold out. Cracker Barrel pulled their merch, and had to put it back after their customers told them what they thought about the move.

Who was watching this show thinking these guys were anything but conservative Christians with all the baggage that comes with that label? A&E PR execs seem to have been the last to find out. They didn't insult the people that were/are most likely to watch and support the show, you can see from the net reaction that it's been just the opposite, the people who are mad are not potential customers.

This is just the shock rock playbook in reverse; do you think Marylin Manson or Alice Cooper every worried about losing their Christian audience when writing their songs and planning their stage shows? Phil Robertson isn't sweating the branded camo backpacks and duck calls he isn't selling to coastal liberals either.

Yeah that's a good point. It's implied Cooper or Manson's shows and music aren't exactly produced with Christians in mind so why would it surprise anyone if they do not attend. This is the same.

However, this stunt is not working everywhere.