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21 Jul 2015, 5:04 pm

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the conventional wisdom is this-
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but who knows? we might just have an outta space guy in the white house next year. :alien:


Along with changing positions of Mars and Jupiter? :D



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21 Jul 2015, 5:05 pm

ghoti wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
the conventional wisdom is this-
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but who knows? we might just have an outta space guy in the white house next year. :alien:


Along with changing positions of Mars and Jupiter? :D

hey :mrgreen: if The Rump says it's so, then it must be so, no? :lol:



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21 Jul 2015, 5:06 pm

if you thought t-rex was bad, just get a load of t-rump!



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22 Jul 2015, 12:26 am

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Trump gave out Lindsay Graham's personal phone number :lol:

they're probably thinking desperately of a way to keep Trump out of the debates, he's going to destroy guys like Jeb and Rubio


Irresponsible and vindictive actions like that make me wonder how much danger we'll be in if the impossible happens, and that egotistical windbag becomes President!


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22 Jul 2015, 12:33 am

somebody with literary talent needs to take it upon themselves to write such a scenario and distribute it widely.



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22 Jul 2015, 1:11 am

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somebody with literary talent needs to take it upon themselves to write such a scenario and distribute it widely.


Make that suggestion in the arts and writing section (whatcha call it), and I'm sure you'll have a whole lot of takers. :thumleft:


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22 Jul 2015, 2:01 am

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his fellow conservatives...


In what way, exactly, is Trump a "conservative"?


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22 Jul 2015, 3:02 am

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In what way, exactly, is Trump a "conservative"?


Well, he is running as a Republican, and he rode in on that birther nonsense that's been a disease of the far right.


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22 Jul 2015, 3:19 am

I meant actual issues or philosophical stances. The man's such an oaf, I haven't been paying attention, but a quick search turned up this:

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In public statements, he has advocated government healthcare, a woman’s right to an abortion, an assault weapons ban, and paying off the national debt by forcing rich people to forfeit 14.25 percent of their total wealth. When the man married his third wife, he invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to the wedding, and he has given many thousands to their political campaigns and their foundation. He’s donated many thousands more that helped elect Democrats to the Senate and the House.


If that's a conservative, I'm the King of Siam.


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22 Jul 2015, 3:30 am

I am guessing that many folk who call themselves conservative are anything but.



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22 Jul 2015, 4:58 am

Republicans are not conservative. They are generally phoney-baloney people who pretend to be conservative.

That is why Trump will kill them in the debates. He can expose how phoney-baloney there are.



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22 Jul 2015, 5:03 am

just as he exposed their phony-boloney "patriotism" over respecting vets when they and god know full well they go through that charade when it suits them then "swift boat" it overboard when it is an out-of-favor GOPer or democrat they want to give the shove.



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22 Jul 2015, 5:44 am

luan78zao wrote:
I meant actual issues or philosophical stances. The man's such an oaf, I haven't been paying attention, but a quick search turned up this:

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In public statements, he has advocated government healthcare, a woman’s right to an abortion, an assault weapons ban, and paying off the national debt by forcing rich people to forfeit 14.25 percent of their total wealth. When the man married his third wife, he invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to the wedding, and he has given many thousands to their political campaigns and their foundation. He’s donated many thousands more that helped elect Democrats to the Senate and the House.


If that's a conservative, I'm the King of Siam.


Well, that's something that the rank-and-file Republicans who support him should be considering... but apparently aren't. Talk about low information voters.


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22 Jul 2015, 1:36 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
luan78zao wrote:
I meant actual issues or philosophical stances. The man's such an oaf, I haven't been paying attention, but a quick search turned up this:

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In public statements, he has advocated government healthcare, a woman’s right to an abortion, an assault weapons ban, and paying off the national debt by forcing rich people to forfeit 14.25 percent of their total wealth. When the man married his third wife, he invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to the wedding, and he has given many thousands to their political campaigns and their foundation. He’s donated many thousands more that helped elect Democrats to the Senate and the House.


If that's a conservative, I'm the King of Siam.


Well, that's something that the rank-and-file Republicans who support him should be considering... but apparently aren't. Talk about low information voters.


You got to keep a sense of perspective about these things. The important thing is he kept demanding that the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue show us his true Kenyan birth certificate. That right there is all you need to know. Get your head on straight!



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22 Jul 2015, 1:52 pm

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I meant actual issues or philosophical stances. The man's such an oaf, I haven't been paying attention, but a quick search turned up this:

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In public statements, he has advocated government healthcare, a woman’s right to an abortion, an assault weapons ban, and paying off the national debt by forcing rich people to forfeit 14.25 percent of their total wealth. When the man married his third wife, he invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to the wedding, and he has given many thousands to their political campaigns and their foundation. He’s donated many thousands more that helped elect Democrats to the Senate and the House.


If that's a conservative, I'm the King of Siam.


Well, that's something that the rank-and-file Republicans who support him should be considering... but apparently aren't. Talk about low information voters.


You got to keep a sense of perspective about these things. The important thing is he kept demanding that the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue show us his true Kenyan birth certificate. That right there is all you need to know. Get your head on straight!


Yep, and that's what Trump is banking on in order to reel in the tea baggers.


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22 Jul 2015, 5:48 pm

luan78zao wrote:
I meant actual issues or philosophical stances. The man's such an oaf, I haven't been paying attention, but a quick search turned up this:

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In public statements, he has advocated government healthcare, a woman’s right to an abortion, an assault weapons ban, and paying off the national debt by forcing rich people to forfeit 14.25 percent of their total wealth. When the man married his third wife, he invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to the wedding, and he has given many thousands to their political campaigns and their foundation. He’s donated many thousands more that helped elect Democrats to the Senate and the House.


If that's a conservative, I'm the King of Siam.


Well your Highness, Conservative wishes to maintain the best of the past.

Government Healthcare has worked with Medicare, and expanding to cover everyone who wanted it would be the simple version that Richard Nixon proposed.

Women have a legal right to abortion.

Fully automatic weapons, large caliber, explosives, should be restricted to military use only.

The Economy has two problems, Debt will destroy us, high taxes will fall unfairly on too many people, and depress economic growth.

A one time Tax On Principal, net worth, perhaps spread over years, that equals the National Debt, will increase the value of everything else, in excess of the one time Tax. The tax falls on those who have benefitted from tax cuts, government advantages, while the National Debt ran up to $20 Trillion.

Keynes, spending, tax cuts during slow economic times, then recover the costs from the profits, plus enough to fund a National Bank with $5 Trillion. This can be used to buffer the next downturn, without cutting the tax flow that keeps government funded.

It in effect calls in all the Bonds we are paying interest on, leaving those parties with dollars that are subject to inflation. They will spend them. This will be good for the world economy.

Ben Franklin on Religion, Give $10 to each church, attend none, be loved by all.

Trump did a lot of business in New York, which is three quarters Democrat, he admits to giving money to both political parties at all levels of government. He is not the problem, the system where only people who donate to everyone get heard is the problem. For one, it excludes those who only vote.

As long as that is how it is, someone elected to City Council is going to find Donald's name on their donate list.

A look at government, a mixed race whore, and anyone would have both a desire for them to do some things, and not do other things. Sometimes years of work go into one line in a Bill that gives a tax break to less than ten people, worth millions a year.

Wall Street gave Congress over $500 million a year, but when the crash came that was worth trillions.

Bill and Hillary were the Senator from Israel, they represented the New York Settlements.

The UN is in New York, and while we do not like most of them, we do have to keep an eye on them.

As I recall, Carter had a problem with hostages in Iran, Reagan ran on nuking them, and when he won the hostages were released, He also paid off a shipload of guns, got some gold, and funded the Nicaraguan Contras to smuggle Columbian cocaine to the US to start the Crack Epidemic.

Government is a complex art.

Joe Kennedy was a known crook, made his running booze during prohibition, then screwed everyone in the Stock Market during the twenties. After the crash he was asked to write new rules for the market, because he had broken all the existing ones. He did a good job, it lasted till Clinton removed them. That caused a double crash, first the savings and loan, 1992, then the Internet Bubble. His deregulation of banks lead to 2008.

The Bush Family is controlled by oil companies and the Saudis.

The Clintons by Banks, Brokers, Israel.

Trump may be in bed with one Eastern European, but otherwise, all his interest is fully American.

Trump can see the ins and outs of Business Government incest, the secret deals where tax dollars just vanish, and might hire China to build high speed rail from coast to coast, and new cities where business, education, and technology develop, people move there by invitation only, where they are no criminals, underclass, illegals, and everything is new.

We need a future and we need it now.

Next generation manufacturing and transportation is going robotic. It will take less but trained people, and we cannot abandon the future because of the low quality of our population.

Mexico and China are about to be replaced by intelligent machines, and they already will work for food.

If it is going to get hot because of Al Gore, or if an Ice Age is coming in 2030, what we have is not up to the task. Our Detroit, Saint Louis, Memphis, Cities are not getting better, and there are hundreds of them.

We have no plan. We have no goal posts for 2020, 2030, 2040, 2050.

Projections are the human population will continue going up till it is unsupportable. Poverty, starvation, mass migrations, ever falling to a lower standard of existence.

If we are ever going in Space it has to be soon. We need to cut back the war spending, and join with Russia to develop space. Russia has the best lift system, and can deliver hundreds/thousands of tons of material for constructing a real space ship in orbit. Catching one $5 Trillion in Palatinate's Asteroid would pay for it, there are hundreds of them.

Mining asteroids produces a lot of material to build more ships. We need something big to orbit the Earth, Moon, Mars, transport between them, with shielding, and air. Once built, new uses will be found.

Conservative is doing what has worked before, and it has raised the level of technology and the health, education and welfare of the people.

We can reach Cathy by sailing West.