Say you'd written that instead, would you want someone else to find it acceptable?
They are the bottom of the barrel. The only nations who care about them are Syria and Iran which are both sworn enemies of the United States and Israel. I do not see too many other Arab opening up their countries to them. They do not want them because they only bring trouble.
The Palestinians blew it of taking back Israel in 1948,1967 and 1973. So they resorted by blowing up innocent people in cafes and buses included. A group called "Black September" which were Palestinian were responsible for the Munich Olympic massacre in 1972.
The other surrounding Arabs states have been gradually smashed apart by the US and Israel, with a USrael puppet installed, so of course they have no interests in the Palestinians. If the law is implemented, the Palestinians don't need to go other countries, things will go back to the 1967 borders and most Palestinians will be able to live in those borders. But Israel is gradually stealing the land that would be in a proposed Palestinian state, as Israel have no interest in peace and never have. Just control, domination and mass murder (see Greater Israel Project).
Think you are lost of the Yosef issue, but he was just telling the truth. At least you have been honest too about your racism and seething hatred of Arab Muslims.
The Palestinians weren't trying to "take back Israel in 1967 and 1973". Israel attacked Egypt in 1967, and then Egypt attacked Israel in 1973 after Israel refused to give back the land they had illegally stolen. As for 1948, Israel had long been preparing for the war and the intention was always to steal as much as Palestine as possible, and then more and more as time went on.
Jewish terrorists attacked the British at the King David Hotel in 1946, which prominent Israeli politicians still celebrate. In 1954, Egyptian Jewish terrorists were hired by Israel to plant bombs in British owned areas cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. In 1967, Israel attacked a US ship, killing 34 and wounding 171.
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The vast majority of terrorists are Arab. Remember ISIL and Al Queda. They are Arabs, The couple from San Bernardino were Arabs. The Paris shooters were terrorists.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-m ... rders-2011
Here's a list of Palestinian suicide bombings against Israeli citizens. Please note the rapid decrease in bombings as the boarder crossing inspections and restrictions began to become effective. These restrictions were the only choice. The Palestinians created their own trouble.
From Wikipedia:
1 1980s
1.1 1989 (1 attack)
2 1990s
2.1 1993 (2 bombings)
2.2 1994 (5 bombings)
2.3 1995 (4 bombings)
2.4 1996 (4 bombings)
2.5 1997 (3 bombings)
2.6 1998 (2 bombings)
2.7 1999 (2 bombings)
3 2000s
3.1 2000 (5 bombings)
3.2 2001 (40 bombings)
3.3 2002 (47 bombings)
3.4 2003 (23 bombings)
3.5 2004 (17 bombings)
3.6 2005 (9 bombings)
3.7 2006 (3 bombings)
3.8 2007 (1 bombing)
3.9 2008 (2 bombings)
4 2010s
4.1 2015 (1 bombing)
Following this portion of the article in Wikipedia are listed exactly where the bombings happened and how many were killed and injured.
As you know some bombings and killings have continued due to Palestinian use of tunnels, which are destroyed as they are found. Some munitions do get past inspections because of new tunnels and other subterfuge. When Israeli Intelligence, through their surveillance methods, find there may be an oncoming attack using sequestered bombs and ammo, they will perform raids which, unfortunately upsets many Palestinians; these are the same Palestinians who decided to join with the murderous Hamas and therefor chose their own path. They deserve to reap what they sow.
So John (?), Do you condone the bombing, killing and mutilation your fellow Palestinians perform??? We know you are supposed to be able to lie without compunction and perhaps even be obligated to lie to non-believers, but perhaps you can answer in such a way we may "read between the lines" (wink).
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-m ... rders-2011
And Boko Haram (and all their killing of innocent children) is Muslim, and the attacks in Australia were done by Muslims, and our World Trade Center was attacked by Muslims. The list goes on-and-on. The whole world is tracking (and catching for the most part) murderous Muslims. Not murderous Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, but MUSLIMS. This is because of a virus in their religion called jihad. In the U.S. we have somewhere between 12 million and 20 million economic immigrants.....AND NOT ONE BOMB VEST...NOT ONE SCHOOL MASSACRE...despite many old hatreds and disagreements.
Has the Muslim community and it's fabled ancient intelligence fallen so low it can only resort to violence?
I thought you smarter than that.Why would the Jews return to Europe after their experience with both the suppression of Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin and the thousands of years proceeding? They were almost wiped off the map between 1939-1945. In Russia, they were suppressed under Stalism and communism and treated like second class citizens. They deserve a homeland.
Yes that's a valid point. I was meaning people wanting come to Israel from the former soviet states. Not the people already currently living in Israel.
I think the state of Israel needs to stop allowing hundreds of thousands eastern European Jews into their country. A large percentage of these are Slavic converts who probably have no genetic or historic connection to the Israel of Solomon and David. I sympathise with Palestinians who lost their land and I think part of the 3 billion in aid should be used to compensate those who were victims from 1948
By the same token I am not impressed by the PLO's use of international terrorism and the more recent rise of HAMAS who attack Israeli children. I vividly remember images of Palestinian women and children celebrating the 9-11 attacks in the US. I think the Palestinians have lost a lot of credibility with their support for extremist groups. I certainly prefer to have a stable Israel rather than an unstable Palestine breeding more international terrorists.
I thought you smarter than that.Why would the Jews return to Europe after their experience with both the suppression of Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin and the thousands of years proceeding? They were almost wiped off the map between 1939-1945. In Russia, they were suppressed under Stalism and communism and treated like second class citizens. They deserve a homeland.
Yes that's a valid point. I was meaning people wanting come to Israel from the former soviet states. Not the people already currently living in Israel.
I think the state of Israel needs to stop allowing hundreds of thousands eastern European Jews into their country. A large percentage of these are Slavic converts who probably have no genetic or historic connection to the Israel of Solomon and David. I sympathise with Palestinians who lost their land and I think part of the 3 billion in aid should be used to compensate those who were victims from 1948
By the same token I am not impressed by the PLO's use of international terrorism and the more recent rise of HAMAS who attack Israeli children. I vividly remember images of Palestinian women and children celebrating the 9-11 attacks in the US. I think the Palestinians have lost a lot of credibility with their support for extremist groups. I certainly prefer to have a stable Israel rather than an unstable Palestine breeding more international terrorists.
If they want to immigrate to their land I say its all right. The Slavic Jews have long memories of Nazi Einsatzgruppen roaming the steppes of the Ukraine engaged in mass murder. Why would want to stay in a country or region which has oppressed you for centuries and treated like a second class citizen? The Israeli government want to re-unite the people who were scattered in the wind for over 3000 years
I thought you smarter than that.Why would the Jews return to Europe after their experience with both the suppression of Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin and the thousands of years proceeding? They were almost wiped off the map between 1939-1945. In Russia, they were suppressed under Stalism and communism and treated like second class citizens. They deserve a homeland.
Yes that's a valid point. I was meaning people wanting come to Israel from the former soviet states. Not the people already currently living in Israel.
I think the state of Israel needs to stop allowing hundreds of thousands eastern European Jews into their country. A large percentage of these are Slavic converts who probably have no genetic or historic connection to the Israel of Solomon and David. I sympathise with Palestinians who lost their land and I think part of the 3 billion in aid should be used to compensate those who were victims from 1948
By the same token I am not impressed by the PLO's use of international terrorism and the more recent rise of HAMAS who attack Israeli children. I vividly remember images of Palestinian women and children celebrating the 9-11 attacks in the US. I think the Palestinians have lost a lot of credibility with their support for extremist groups. I certainly prefer to have a stable Israel rather than an unstable Palestine breeding more international terrorists.
If they want to immigrate to their land I say its all right. The Slavic Jews have long memories of Nazi Einsatzgruppen roaming the steppes of the Ukraine engaged in mass murder. Why would want to stay in a country or region which has oppressed you for centuries and treated like a second class citizen? The Israeli government want to re-unite the people who were scattered in the wind for over 3000 years
Israel is so small...there's only so many people they can allow in.
I thought you smarter than that.Why would the Jews return to Europe after their experience with both the suppression of Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin and the thousands of years proceeding? They were almost wiped off the map between 1939-1945. In Russia, they were suppressed under Stalism and communism and treated like second class citizens. They deserve a homeland.
Yes that's a valid point. I was meaning people wanting come to Israel from the former soviet states. Not the people already currently living in Israel.
I think the state of Israel needs to stop allowing hundreds of thousands eastern European Jews into their country. A large percentage of these are Slavic converts who probably have no genetic or historic connection to the Israel of Solomon and David. I sympathise with Palestinians who lost their land and I think part of the 3 billion in aid should be used to compensate those who were victims from 1948
By the same token I am not impressed by the PLO's use of international terrorism and the more recent rise of HAMAS who attack Israeli children. I vividly remember images of Palestinian women and children celebrating the 9-11 attacks in the US. I think the Palestinians have lost a lot of credibility with their support for extremist groups. I certainly prefer to have a stable Israel rather than an unstable Palestine breeding more international terrorists.
If they want to immigrate to their land I say its all right. The Slavic Jews have long memories of Nazi Einsatzgruppen roaming the steppes of the Ukraine engaged in mass murder. Why would want to stay in a country or region which has oppressed you for centuries and treated like a second class citizen? The Israeli government want to re-unite the people who were scattered in the wind for over 3000 years
Israel is so small...there's only so many people they can allow in.
That is up to the Israeli government who they let in. If they feel that they can resettle all the Jews more power to them. They were promised a homeland in the Balfour agreement and in the 1948 agreement.
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet
His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours,
Arthur James Balfour
The Babi Yar massacre comes to mind with that reference to the einsatzgruppen. If the Israelis lowered thier guard and the Islamics were allowed to close on Israel we'd likely see Babi Yar's all over Israel. It's not a baseless assertion when you consider Islam is every bit the enemy to Jews that the Nazis were.
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I'm just wondering how the spirit of this statement would hold up given the outcome of the 1948 and 1967 expulsion of indigenous Palestinians into Jordan and Egypt?
The Babi Yar massacre comes to mind with that reference to the einsatzgruppen. If the Israelis lowered thier guard and the Islamics were allowed to close on Israel we'd likely see Babi Yar's all over Israel. It's not a baseless assertion when you consider Islam is every bit the enemy to Jews that the Nazis were.
That is why they have invested in billions and billions of dollars in American military hardware. We are giving them the ability to defend themselves from attack.
"Never Again" is their slogan
I'm just wondering how the spirit of this statement would hold up given the outcome of the 1948 and 1967 expulsion of indigenous Palestinians into Jordan and Egypt?
Jordan and Egypt nor does any Arab country want the Palestinians within their borders. They bring nothing but trouble and nothing tangible to the table. Egypt is getting their $2 billion dollars in aid as part of the Camp David accords. They have also purchased American made weapons.
From Wikipedia:
1 1980s
1.1 1989 (1 attack)
2 1990s
2.1 1993 (2 bombings)
2.2 1994 (5 bombings)
2.3 1995 (4 bombings)
2.4 1996 (4 bombings)
2.5 1997 (3 bombings)
2.6 1998 (2 bombings)
2.7 1999 (2 bombings)
3 2000s
3.1 2000 (5 bombings)
3.2 2001 (40 bombings)
3.3 2002 (47 bombings)
3.4 2003 (23 bombings)
3.5 2004 (17 bombings)
3.6 2005 (9 bombings)
3.7 2006 (3 bombings)
3.8 2007 (1 bombing)
3.9 2008 (2 bombings)
4 2010s
4.1 2015 (1 bombing)
Following this portion of the article in Wikipedia are listed exactly where the bombings happened and how many were killed and injured.
As you know some bombings and killings have continued due to Palestinian use of tunnels, which are destroyed as they are found. Some munitions do get past inspections because of new tunnels and other subterfuge. When Israeli Intelligence, through their surveillance methods, find there may be an oncoming attack using sequestered bombs and ammo, they will perform raids which, unfortunately upsets many Palestinians; these are the same Palestinians who decided to join with the murderous Hamas and therefor chose their own path. They deserve to reap what they sow.
So John (?), Do you condone the bombing, killing and mutilation your fellow Palestinians perform??? We know you are supposed to be able to lie without compunction and perhaps even be obligated to lie to non-believers, but perhaps you can answer in such a way we may "read between the lines" (wink).
About 10 years ago, a Zionist site had the number of deaths of Israelis and Jews since the beginning of the Zionist movement, which they dated back to the 1860's. From the top of my head, it was around 21,000. So that's 21,000 people killed in around 150 years, most of them being soldiers. In 1982, Israel went into Lebanon and killed between 18,000-20,000 in a couple of months, mostly civilians. In 2008, Israel went into Gaza to "mow the lawn", they killed 1400 people, 4/5's being civilians. 13 Israelis were killed, 10 of those were soldiers and 4 of them were due to friendly fire.
So would you still like to talk about numbers?
Israel have been killing and torturing Palestinians for over 70 years, why do you only focus on Israeli deaths? Especially when they are not even close compared to the amount of Palestinians killed. If you had all of your family killed, your home and village bulldozed and were made to live like a dog, you'd be angry. I'm not justifying murdering civilians. Palestinians tried unarmed resistance in the late 80's, and got a million bullets fired at them.
If you're in a prison for not committing a crime, you want to get out. The tunnels were also used for resources. Egypt closed the tunnels their side without killing over 2000 people and blowing Gaza to dust. Most of the tunnels were used to kill or capture soldiers.
I've already told you I never condone the killing of innocent people, i'm not like you.
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