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I would say you are totally clueless about what neoconservative means then and to call me so "far right" just shows you don't know who you've been talking to.

so buzz off pol pot

Neocons have always been Freedom Terrorists and Lobbyists for the Defense Industry.

Their one goal is to keep peace from breaking out. Fifty years ago when the Viet Nam War ended, someone mentioned a Peace Dividend, money that could be spent on roads and schools, and they went wild for attacking Russia in Europe.

Russia was willing to pull back from Europe, and to prevent peace, neocons demanded expanding NATO to Russia's border. They must become members of NATO, and buy American made arms.

History gets rewritten, The Soviet Union did not withdraw, they ran in fear from our shiny war machine.

We have given the arms merchants our wealth and our blood because of these lies.

They tell lies across the board, to both Parties. They tell the Jews that only weapons will keep them alive, and Christians that Jesus cannot return until the last war that destroys Israel, where the whole world fights. Jesus needs guns!

"Arab Spring", is just a sales pitch. The best outcome in the Middle East would have been just ignoring them. They were never a threat.

While beating the drums for a bigger war machine, the one we have cannot win the wars we start.

The worlds best fighter plane is Russian, the best rocket engine, Russian, and one on one, North Korea could do more damage to America, than the war machine could do to them. North Korea launched a satellite over our heads, that might be an atomic bomb. All electronics fried in an instant, including spare parts, and the factories that can make replacements are in China, South Korea, and Taiwan.

No computers, phones, power, water, sewer, food, banking, transport. Most Americans would not last 60 days.

There is no way to bring in supplies, no way to leave, and our war machine would be useless.

Republican and Democrat have been living on payoffs from the Military Industrial Banking Complex for fifty years.

It is who puts food in their dog dishes.

Trump is right, we need peace and working with other countries to survive.

His programs are both Left and Right, what works, and he is the third point of a triangle.

my main concern is the permanent lack of affordable health care should he win and eliminate the PPACA.

Yes, he probably looks down on the poor and thinks they deserve to be that way. I doubt he'd have much in the line of compassion for the those whom he considers lesser beings.

Trump says a lot of things, if Democrats are willing to work with him then they'll probably get a lot more done that they want done than the Republicans have under Obama. Trump is by far the most liberal Republican running as far as healthcare and Social Security is concerned, he's made it clear over and over again when he gets called out by people like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio that he 'won't let people die in the streets' and for praising Canada and the UK's health system for working for them. Trump wants to build infrastructure, he wants to bring the jobs back to this country that have been stolen by these trade deals, he doesn't want to get us involved in another trillion dollar Wilsonian/Neocon war for democracy in some foreign land.

you're supporting trump, aren't you? and you claim to not be far right
Neocon is just a synonym for RINO, so no, i'm not 'totally clueless'

No, the neoconservative movement was born out Trotskyite 'intellectuals' like Irving Kristol who abandoned the Democratic party with emergence of the New Left and the campus demonstrations in the 60s. Basically all they care about is their own insane foreign policy and will abandon every conservative principle they claim to have before ever accepting peace. They want America to wage perpetual war and 'lead the globe', think about people like Lindsay Graham and John McCain. As predicted they will scatter like rats from the party now the base of the GOP is no longer accepting their BS, neocons are the people that scream isolationist as if it is the worst thing you can be(I think being a warmonger is much worse myself) and try to say you're un-American if you don't support them. They cynically manipulate Evangelicals into supporting their foreign policy by invoking Israel Israel Israel but we've all seen the result of their time in power with the Bush administration, this belligerent aggressive foreign policy is not conservative at all. Oh no Trump doesn't want another Cold War with Russia? Even Trump's criticism about the Iran deal isn't based on the fact that there was any deal at all but just that it was by his measure a terrible deal where we didn't get anything in return. WWIII is much more likely to happen these neocon scumbags than a nationalist, Trump talks about all the money we've wasted on these wars and asks what do we get out of them. A person like that is not going to go fight a war for democracy or humanitarianism, they're not going to fund terrorists to fight dictators, our focus is going to be brought back to America and this hemisphere as it should be.

I reject being called far right, I don't believe I am even that on the flawed spectrum we have here in America. It really is a term that has no meaning, or one that's most convenient. Isn't it a fallacy to say 'you support Trump therefor you are x'? People can support anybody for any number of reasons, simply put Trump is best most viable candidate and we only really get so many choices in America. Usually 2 at the end.

Justin Raimondo and Michael Scheuer both have defended Trump, they are people I respect especially Michael Scheuer and I would recommend looking him up.

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Not to sound hyperbolic (well, no more than I already have ), but totalitarians from Julius Caesar, all the way up to the infamous 20th century fascists, have incorporated ideas of the left as a cover for their far right policies. The Neocons were the odd hybrids that have laid the path for Trump.

Neocons are just another iteration of people jumping ship because they don't agree with the party line(not that i've bothered with said lines myself), and it's not always because they're (chicken)hawks.
Trump also talks about how he's going to build a wall and mexico will pay for it(lol), which is either a straight fabrication or a foreign relations disaster waiting to happen.
The fact that Trump has some good policies doesn't get rid of how dangerous the others are(like destroying the 1st amendment).

Neoconservatism is a real ideological movement, I don't know what to tell you other than that. Look it up? There has been a lot of talk about them lately since they're the main ones running around like a chicken with its head cut off because of Trump, they're the ones that are threatening to go vote for Hillary Clinton given her belligerent foreign policy.

We can make Mexico pay for the wall, I think we should do more and charge them for every citizen they have in this country which is somewhere between 11 and 30 million. Tariffs, tax on remittance payments, it's very easy. I'm not too worried about Mexico attacking us, I think they'll be better off in the long run. Neocons and whatever you can call their Democratic counterpart, Wilsonians maybe? They have all the money in the world to push this garbage on us because of the MIC.

How is Trump going to destroy the 1st amendment by the way?

I didn't say it wasn't a movement, I just said it happened because a bunch of democrats jumped ship. So the US should just discard all pretense and openly drop a steaming turd on mexico? do tell how that's not a mistake that would just cause further anti-US sentiment in it's neighbours.
Trump thinks that the 'war on christmas' is a worthwhile pursuit, and has said that he wants everyone to say merry christmas. ignoring the 1st amendment is a really bizarre stance for a constitutionalist to take.

I thought I could read English????

The steaming turd to drop on Mexico is the third of Mexico who have come here for a vacation and stayed.

Spanish I understand, in Mexico Education is Del Norte. Health Care, Del Norte, Prison, Del Norte, it is a simple language. One term explains everything.

Take your people back home, for if we have to provide most of the functions of a State to the Citizens of Mexico, we should be paid for it, or take control of the rest of Mexican Government.

Between illegals and drug trafficking Mexico is our leading problem.

We had a lot less reason to invade and rule Afghanistan.

El Trump!