Occupy Movement Will Now Be DEMOCRACY SPRING
The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
I imagine some criminals that flee to mexico where probably there to begin with. But you have got to have your head in the sand if you're unaware of non-immigrant american criminals who flee to mexico to escape criminal charges. Also its probably not very hard to start anew without roots in a rough place like mexico if you're a hardened criminal especially if you can get in good with a cartel or something.
Also does Mexicos penalty include deportation regardless of circumstances? And curious is there even a specific penalty for illegally entering the United States? and as much as you hate it it cannot be entirely ignored that illegal immigrants are dealing with different circumstances than people illegally entering mexico.
Is mexico rampant with companies that use illegal american immigrant workers, that encourage a flow of illegal immigrants? Is the american economy in such shambles and with a lot of cartel/drug trade problems right out in the open to where people feel illegal entry to mexico might be the most realistic way to have a living? I feel like what these immigrants are coming from/fleeing from should be considered when deciding the penalty for illegally immigrating.
I am not saying illegal immigration isn't a problem and we should just let them all in no strings attached and with no penalties ever....but treating it like a swath of violent rapists and murderers coming to wreck havoc in the united states, an enemy to be defeated basically isn't conductive to any kind of real solution. Especially when it cannot be denied that our whole 'war on drugs' and various government corruption does actually tie into a lot of the state of affairs south of the border.
Absolutely, everything and more. Mexico has very very strict laws against illegal(and legal) immigration and foreigners have very few rights at all in the country. You bet they will deport you but maybe after a stint in Mexican prison if you are there illegally. They can do deport any foreigner for any 'national or economic interest', those who are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack “necessary funds for their sustenance”.
It is starting. There will be a Civil War and violence and it will all be starting from the Left. Prepare yourselves.
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Aw C'mon, Angela. People aren't that stupid.
You're a nurse; you have to be objective in treating your patients.
The most that will happen is that there will be people within the fringe elements, who have nothing better to do, seeking to fight each other.
I understand you like Trump and you have strong feelings.
But we must not give in to the idiots who want to duke it out. It'll screw everything up for us internationally. It'll make us look like "ugly Americans."
You're a nurse; you have to be objective in treating your patients.
The most that will happen is that there will be people within the fringe elements, who have nothing better to do, seeking to fight each other.
I understand you like Trump and you have strong feelings.
You need to pull your head out of your you-know-what, Mr. K. No idea why my job keeps coming into this. I'm a realist. According to news I saw today, those numbers of Trump's he's talking about are real - someone called one of the telephone numbers and the person was said to be related to Trump. The video speaks for itself.
I put this video up to let you know what is coming. That is what this thread is all about. People need to know what is going on so they can be prepared.
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I don't see a civil war happening any time soon. But didn't you say that old man's sucker punch was the start of the violence to come? If so that would mean the Trump supporters would have started it.
Some idiot sent one of Trump's sons some powder. I believe the person who did it should be arrested and put in jail for a long time.
This kind of crap always happens in campaigns. Worse crap. There's always going to be "dirty tricks." Remember Wategate?
There won't be a civil war. People have better things to do. They have jobs, for one.
Even if Trump becomes President, he will be restrained by our system of Checks and Balances.
You're a nurse; you have to be objective in treating your patients.
The most that will happen is that there will be people within the fringe elements, who have nothing better to do, seeking to fight each other.
I understand you like Trump and you have strong feelings.
You need to pull your head out of your you-know-what, Mr. K. No idea why my job keeps coming into this. I'm a realist. According to news I saw today, those numbers of Trump's he's talking about are real - someone called one of the telephone numbers and the person was said to be related to Trump. The video speaks for itself.
I put this video up to let you know what is coming. That is what this thread is all about. People need to know what is going on so they can be prepared.
You're not a realist you're a conspiracy theorist.
And Kraftie, I agree totally. The person who did that needs to be in prison.
If there was one time where the conditions for civil war were ideal, it was the 1960s.
We had riots, but there was no race war, like many prophesized. And we didn't even come close to having a civil war.
It's just going to be like it always was---a bunch of schmucks on both sides looking for a night of fun and fisticuffs.
That video is asking people to rise up against Trump and his "brown shirts". I do remember several saying that I'm wearing a brown shirt. That video is also saying that I'm a terrorist and that I have "white privilege". If you think the radical Left won't take off and run with this then you are in total denial. Democracy Spring is coming too. I guess we'll see what is to come.
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It doesn't mean MOST people believe you wear a brown shirt.
I don't believe you want to exterminate the Jews.
Anyway....one aspect of history that maybe some don't know about: Hitler had the leader of his Brown Shirts killed; he even thought they were overdoing it. Instead, he went with the Gestapo, which did things more subtly.
I don't think you are of that ilk. I don't think even Trump is of that ilk. Some of his supporters, like some of the supporters of the other candidates, are just itching for a fight.
It's just people having a political argument, and using hyperbole to try to gain the upper hand. I'm sure, if we really got to know you, that you wouldn't be seen as some Fascist.
Politics has a way of getting people riled up.
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Let me tell you how my Olive Garden dinner went last night.
Me and Ma were talking to ourselves about the election, Trump (and my brother) and I guess the table behind me overheard because they started talking real loud and said they were going to vote just to counter Trump voters and they proceeded to rip him apart. It was hard for me to not turn around and say something. That happened at OLIVE GARDEN. I had a hard time digesting my food for Christ's sake. That's how bad things are getting and we don't even have Trump nominated yet.
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I love the Jews. That video is saying that just because we do not want illegal Mexican's in this country then that is the same as exterminating the Jews. What BS. No country just lets illegals come in free and gives them all the benefits we do.
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Again, this is politics. People will come up with all sorts of nonsense.
Trump has gotten people riled up.
We're at a crossroads in this country. We are in a transitional phase. People don't know what direction we're heading. So they have lots of fears.
All this is good in a way. It's stopping people from taking elections for granted, like they've been doing since at least Reagan's time. It's getting people interested in the direction of our country. Before, people didn't give two craps.
What we have to do is to calm down the rhetoric, and really talk about things.
Like I said, even if Trump is elected, the Congress probably won't pass most of his program. He'll have to compromise, just like Obama had to compromise.
The penalty for illegally entering Mexico by the way is 2 years in prison and up to 10 years on a second offense. The ironic part is that they have much tougher border policies than we do!
If you are white you flee to Canada,
If Mexican-American,Mexico or further south
If you are rich,the Cayman Islands.
You research the extradition policies of other countries,put your fat stacks in Swiss accounts or Caymans.
Then leave and never return,avoid all countries that do extradite back to America.
Some won't extradite if the death penalty is on the table.
I don't get the impression it's very viable to flee to canada to escape criminal charges, if you're white you still flee to mexico or further south even I am pretty sure. I mean even post WWII a lot of nazis fled to south america to avoid charges of war crimes.
True,it was more a joke post.We had a friend from Argentina and his family was Irish.He was snow white lol,with a REALLY Irish name.
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This kind of crap always happens in campaigns. Worse crap. There's always going to be "dirty tricks." Remember Wategate?
There won't be a civil war. People have better things to do. They have jobs, for one.
Even if Trump becomes President, he will be restrained by our system of Checks and Balances.
Assuming trump didn't send it to himself. He hasn't been in the news for the last 24hrs. Someone willing to risk making a "powder" threat isn't going to use baby powder.
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Yes marshall's reply was over the line. But how is it 'civil' to be on this forum and repeatedly go on about how people don't 'deserve' to be on disability? People here get that from everywhere else in the world and this is supposed to be a somewhat supportive place, not one where "pff depression .take meds and get back to work! Anyone with depression/anxiety/whatever can just be fixed. I've had X and i can work. So if they're not, they're just wanting to sit on their ass and eat bonbons while the rest of us pay for them. "
To me, those kind of repeated derisive, denigrating statements are almost as much of an attack as marshall's direct reply. Most people on disability - mental Or physical - would trade their personal hell in a minute in exchange for the ability to work.
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