Why do autistics support right wing policies?

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27 Apr 2019, 6:58 pm

I'm convinced Neo Nazis just pretend to be Trump supporters just to manipulate the media into blaming Trump for everything they do.



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27 Apr 2019, 7:04 pm

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I want sources for what you're stating.


Well said...
Pin them down...
If there is substance to what is said, provide evidence...
This will only give credence to the person arguing a POV...
If they can't provide, it will be a hit to their credibility even if something they said is true...

Sauces are important ppl...
If you want to spice it up, may I suggest sweet chilli? :mrgreen:



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27 Apr 2019, 7:08 pm

BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?



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27 Apr 2019, 7:23 pm

Pepe wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?


They all do it, even Fox News does it. The problem is, people just believe them, without fact-checking. The media's been hell-bent on ruining Trump's reputation for things he didn't actually say or do, while covering up for Hillary. The most common lie the media has spread about him is that he's against immigration. He's not. He's against illegal immigration, but they'll omit that word to demonize him for saying something he never actually said. If they're going to criticize Trump, criticize him on things that are true, not false.



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27 Apr 2019, 7:28 pm

It's called gaslighting.


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28 Apr 2019, 12:14 am

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Why would a queer person vote for a white nationalist party that's targeting them in its policies across the board, unless maybe they're upper middle class or wealthy? And most of the latter are probably democrats too. I'm not, I stated my politics earlier in the thread, but the GOP has nothing to offer vulnerable and oppressed populations when it's descended to the level of white nationalism and for the foreseeable future there's no turning back. And most people in the US (including people on the spectrum) have to endure alot of hellish s**t b/c of it. Trump and his party can go back to Dixie and rot w/Hitler's corpse if they wanna resurrect Jim Crow so f*****g badly.

Sorry I can’t even read your post after the first sentence I rolled my eyes.


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28 Apr 2019, 12:21 am

BlueIris24 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?


They all do it, even Fox News does it. The problem is, people just believe them, without fact-checking. The media's been hell-bent on ruining Trump's reputation for things he didn't actually say or do, while covering up for Hillary. The most common lie the media has spread about him is that he's against immigration. He's not. He's against illegal immigration, but they'll omit that word to demonize him for saying something he never actually said. If they're going to criticize Trump, criticize him on things that are true, not false.

But they want compete open borders and world citizenship where anyone can go everywhere and anywhere without Any immigration system. Unless you fly then they want to invade all your privacy and treat you like a known terrorist anytime you get on a plane. But terrorisrr and gangs are free to just walk across the border and do as they want, so long as the cnn people are safe behind walled off areas with armed security safe in their mansions. Same with the celebrities. “ I have multiple mansions with hundreds of rooms, armed security 24/7, 10 feet high solid walls, so I support letting everyone who wants to into the nation, cause I won’t have to deal with them”
I think a law should be passed manidating every room in a rich person mansion be offered to house an illegal immigrant, their walls torn down(they hate walls and say they don’t work) and their armed security he disarmed.

I can’t have a wall around my house and armed security,neither should they.

It’s easy to support something that doesn’t effect you, like how no law passed by Congress effects members of Congress or their family.
Take my state they passing a law that makes vaccines forced and requires but it exempts our state congress, government officials and their families.
If it’s so good why are they not doing it themselves?


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28 Apr 2019, 2:35 am

BlueIris24 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?


They all do it, even Fox News does it. The problem is, people just believe them, without fact-checking. The media's been hell-bent on ruining Trump's reputation for things he didn't actually say or do, while covering up for Hillary. The most common lie the media has spread about him is that he's against immigration. He's not. He's against illegal immigration, but they'll omit that word to demonize him for saying something he never actually said. If they're going to criticize Trump, criticize him on things that are true, not false.


There two types of people in the world...
Mindless zombies fed on groupthink...
And critical thinkers...

As I have mentioned elsewhere, NTs, compared to autistics, allow their emotions to take control at the expense of rationalism...
For many people, emotional lust needs to be satisfied and bugger truth/rational-thought...
Confirmation bias and groupthink rulez...
As an autistic person, I find this both amusing and disturbing...

Regarding CNN:
The Jussie incident, amongst others, has destroyed their credibility in my eyes at least...
They are seen to be rabid animals spouting fake news to satisfy their personal agenda...
And yes, Fox News in America in all probability is doing similar things...
A pox on all their houses...



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28 Apr 2019, 2:48 am

sly279 wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?


They all do it, even Fox News does it. The problem is, people just believe them, without fact-checking. The media's been hell-bent on ruining Trump's reputation for things he didn't actually say or do, while covering up for Hillary. The most common lie the media has spread about him is that he's against immigration. He's not. He's against illegal immigration, but they'll omit that word to demonize him for saying something he never actually said. If they're going to criticize Trump, criticize him on things that are true, not false.

But they want compete open borders and world citizenship where anyone can go everywhere and anywhere without Any immigration system. Unless you fly then they want to invade all your privacy and treat you like a known terrorist anytime you get on a plane. But terrorisrr and gangs are free to just walk across the border and do as they want, so long as the cnn people are safe behind walled off areas with armed security safe in their mansions. Same with the celebrities. “ I have multiple mansions with hundreds of rooms, armed security 24/7, 10 feet high solid walls, so I support letting everyone who wants to into the nation, cause I won’t have to deal with them”
I think a law should be passed manidating every room in a rich person mansion be offered to house an illegal immigrant, their walls torn down(they hate walls and say they don’t work) and their armed security he disarmed.

I can’t have a wall around my house and armed security,neither should they.

It’s easy to support something that doesn’t effect you, like how no law passed by Congress effects members of Congress or their family.
Take my state they passing a law that makes vaccines forced and requires but it exempts our state congress, government officials and their families.
If it’s so good why are they not doing it themselves?


I just read the bill and I didn’t see any exemption for government officials etc.

I don’t think that your Democrats are for completely open borders and world citizenship. I think that’s quite an exaggeration. They just don’t think you need a wall all across the border. They are for improved border security by other means such as increased technology and more border officers.

I heard Trump say that the US is full. So you are saying it’s not full? That there is room for immigrants? (Just as long as they are “legal” immigrants).



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28 Apr 2019, 3:04 am

I just don't want to see the wall cutting through the national butterfly sanctuary of the rio grande. Its an imporant habitat and the wall is not important enough to destroy that. But this place regardless of being privately owned is at risk. They are so desperate they are asking for people to stick around to fix up the place as best they can after the horrible construction I mean a vital area for wildlife is set to be destroyed and not enough people in this country even give a crap.


It is very sad the actuall effects the wall will have on people and wilderness, I just hope it can be stopped before it bites us all in the butt. I mean s**t, I thought more of my generation had watched Pink Floyds film the wall and maybe had seen why a wall solves nothing...but I guess if they did see the film or listen to the album they took nothing out of it.]

Whatever happened to 'tear down the wall'?


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28 Apr 2019, 4:04 am

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Or they don’t like someone else deciding what’s good for them even though they disagree then forcing it on them.
If something’s good it shouldn’t have to be forced on anyone.

Yeah funny that....
https://www.newsweek.com/congressman-tr ... ll-1277178



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28 Apr 2019, 4:08 am

Pepe wrote:
There two types of people in the world...
Mindless zombies fed on groupthink...
And critical thinkers...


And Trump voters are....?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... key-traits

well I guess we can discount critical thought...



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28 Apr 2019, 4:48 am

AnneOleson wrote:
sly279 wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BlueIris24 wrote:
A lot of the media outlets hate Trump, particularly CNN. They will put words in his mouth, omit words, and blatantly lie about things to suit their agendas.


This is an observable fact for anyone with an open mind...
But don't they all push their own agenda even if it through lies of omission?


They all do it, even Fox News does it. The problem is, people just believe them, without fact-checking. The media's been hell-bent on ruining Trump's reputation for things he didn't actually say or do, while covering up for Hillary. The most common lie the media has spread about him is that he's against immigration. He's not. He's against illegal immigration, but they'll omit that word to demonize him for saying something he never actually said. If they're going to criticize Trump, criticize him on things that are true, not false.

But they want compete open borders and world citizenship where anyone can go everywhere and anywhere without Any immigration system. Unless you fly then they want to invade all your privacy and treat you like a known terrorist anytime you get on a plane. But terrorisrr and gangs are free to just walk across the border and do as they want, so long as the cnn people are safe behind walled off areas with armed security safe in their mansions. Same with the celebrities. “ I have multiple mansions with hundreds of rooms, armed security 24/7, 10 feet high solid walls, so I support letting everyone who wants to into the nation, cause I won’t have to deal with them”
I think a law should be passed manidating every room in a rich person mansion be offered to house an illegal immigrant, their walls torn down(they hate walls and say they don’t work) and their armed security he disarmed.

I can’t have a wall around my house and armed security,neither should they.

It’s easy to support something that doesn’t effect you, like how no law passed by Congress effects members of Congress or their family.
Take my state they passing a law that makes vaccines forced and requires but it exempts our state congress, government officials and their families.
If it’s so good why are they not doing it themselves?


I just read the bill and I didn’t see any exemption for government officials etc.

I don’t think that your Democrats are for completely open borders and world citizenship. I think that’s quite an exaggeration. They just don’t think you need a wall all across the border. They are for improved border security by other means such as increased technology and more border officers.

I heard Trump say that the US is full. So you are saying it’s not full? That there is room for immigrants? (Just as long as they are “legal” immigrants).


Republicans submitted a admend that required government officials to abide by it which Democrats rejected. Thus they are exempt, or they’d passed it. Clearly what’s not good for them should be forced on us peasants.
My rule is simple don’t demand others do anything you won’t do yourself.
Anything else is hypocritical and wrong.

No they are for open borders, many have stated so. They want to give illegals citizenship so they can vote Democrat.
Border officers at saying the walls help. They want the walls. How hard is that to understand. It’s like arguing with your surgeon who says you need surgery.
I, saying celebrities who want illegal immigrants should put up or shut up. We have millions of homeless and those elites have billions of dollars, tons of empty rooms in their multi million mansions. Those rich elites could single handled pay for basics inco,e without those government even being involved. They don’t cause they like being rich, they like being safe, well we peasants want to be safe too. So tired of rich people telling use how to live while they themselves won’t live that way.
I can only think of one celebrity who is down to earth.
If I won the lottery I’d be out there helping people with the money not buying mansions and 500 billion dollar yachts.


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28 Apr 2019, 4:55 am

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I just don't want to see the wall cutting through the national butterfly sanctuary of the rio grande. Its an imporant habitat and the wall is not important enough to destroy that. But this place regardless of being privately owned is at risk. They are so desperate they are asking for people to stick around to fix up the place as best they can after the horrible construction I mean a vital area for wildlife is set to be destroyed and not enough people in this country even give a crap.


It is very sad the actuall effects the wall will have on people and wilderness, I just hope it can be stopped before it bites us all in the butt. I mean s**t, I thought more of my generation had watched Pink Floyds film the wall and maybe had seen why a wall solves nothing...but I guess if they did see the film or listen to the album they took nothing out of it.]

Whatever happened to 'tear down the wall'?


Bet the illegals don’t give a poop about the butterflies and trash their habitat. They just want to get to America and become rich.
Look the wall works in some places and not in others. Wall means border line be that a fence , concrete wall, or some other measure to stop illegals.
I support the wall that or we make all laws void and I get a machine gun. Either we enforce all laws or none it’s that simple.

I watched stuff about east and West Berlin. The wall was quite effective at keeping people out.


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28 Apr 2019, 4:56 am

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
There two types of people in the world...
Mindless zombies fed on groupthink...
And critical thinkers...


And Trump voters are....?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... key-traits

well I guess we can discount critical thought...


I am not sure I know where you are going with this, but to be clear: I am not for or against Trump...
I'm Australian and only have a passing interest in American politics...



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28 Apr 2019, 5:02 am

i'm a single-issue voter, and that issue is affordable health care for the working class. i initially had nothing against the GOP until they told me, via a mailing, that i literally didn't count for them unless i was at least middle class. since then, i have voted consistently for the party most opposite of them, namely the democratic party. the a century, the GOP has not only never lifted a finger to make health care truly affordable for the working class, they have actively opposed it. so i will never vote for them. the most despicable thing about today's GOP is that their opinions of what they consider "useless eaters" [IOW the working class] have not changed but they somehow have convinced a plurality of working class to vote for them anyway, under the pretense that the GOP hates the same people the working class supposedly hates.