11 Jun 2019, 9:23 pm
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Chaucer wrote a lot about "indulgences." He considered it one of the main evils of the medieval Church.
Religion in the past in general:
Corrupt and cynically manipulative.
Sounds about right.
It's kool.
The victims are dead now and definitely not in hell.
I thought Jesus put this sort of financial exploitation to bed when he threw over the tables of the Jewish Rabbis collecting fees for favour?
Personally I think every religion has its goods and evils. Religion has inspired people to do terrible things like war but it has also inspired humans to do nicer things like charity.
Churches don't just collect money for greed, they give back to the needy aswell. They operate soup kitchens and shelters for the homeless and the missionaries travel to areas destroyed by war and natural disaster to aid those that were effected. Sure their help comes with strings attached, but to be frank I don't know too many athiests who operate charities on such a large scale the way Catholics do.
Context, my friend, context.
I made it clear I was talking about religions in the past.
I have the impression you are mixing the past and the present together.
Personally, I believe there is very little corruption in religious organisation these days.
In addition, I am not saying there wasn't genuine charity in the past.
But the focus of my contribution to this discussion was elsewhere.
BTW, was being burned to death one of "the strings attached" in the Spanish Inquisition?
11 Jun 2019, 9:29 pm
Pepe wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Chaucer wrote a lot about "indulgences." He considered it one of the main evils of the medieval Church.
Religion in the past in general:
Corrupt and cynically manipulative.
Sounds about right.
It's kool.
The victims are dead now and definitely not in hell.
I thought Jesus put this sort of financial exploitation to bed when he threw over the tables of the Jewish Rabbis collecting fees for favour?
Personally I think every religion has its goods and evils. Religion has inspired people to do terrible things like war but it has also inspired humans to do nicer things like charity.
Churches don't just collect money for greed, they give back to the needy aswell. They operate soup kitchens and shelters for the homeless and the missionaries travel to areas destroyed by war and natural disaster to aid those that were effected. Sure their help comes with strings attached, but to be frank I don't know too many athiests who operate charities on such a large scale the way Catholics do.
Context, my friend, context.
I made it clear I was talking about religions in the past.
I have the impression you are mixing the past and the present together.
Personally, I believe there is very little corruption in religious organisation these days.
In addition, I am not saying there wasn't genuine charity in the past.
But the focus of my contribution to this discussion was elsewhere.
BTW, was being burned to death one of "the strings attached" in the Spanish Inquisition?
Possibly.
Maybe they were taken by the Lord of Light like in Game of Thrones?
"Lord of Light protect us! For the night is dark and full of terrors!"
12 Jun 2019, 9:22 am
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