What is wrong with Political Correctness in some cases?

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That's fine but being inclusive in schools means if there are kids who are trans/LGBTQI then sex education should also (by design) be inclusive.

My daughter has a healthy attitude toward homosexuality, I heard her talking to a friend yesterday and they were talking about a girl who was gay. My daughter just said..."well, some girls have a crush on boys and some girls have a crush on girls.

That's fine! I have no problem with homsexuality!

But, the idea that we must call men women and women men is a problem for me.

Because we are conditioned to gender labels from childhood. Children are more open to new ideas than adults. I have no problem if a properly trained person discusses these matters with my child.

It's like calling a pencil paper.

I think the issue is that you don’t know what a man or a woman is.

In this instance, the views you are decrying as “politically correct” are also factually correct. Sex, to the extent it exists, is a poor proxy for gender. Some women are “male”, some men are “female”.

If you think Buck Angel is a woman, well, you’re just wrong.

It's like getting stuck on a label

I respectfully disagree.

Buck Angel is impressive, though. That's industrial-grade stuff right there.

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Some Folks Are More Open Minded And
Not Averse to Change and Nuance in Life.

Other Folks, Not So Much As They May Be
Closed Minded And Averse to Change And Not Get Nuances in Life.

Such is 'the Condition;' Folks, Who Cannot Seem to Open Their Minds
To Change and Nuance in Life; Yes, They Deserve to Be Who They Are too...

Personally, i Feel Very (Blissed)
Blessed That i am Open Minded,
And Don't Feel the Need to Dictate

to Others How They Should Be;

Sure, I'll Quote Ya Some Rules; Some
Laws, Some Regulations; Yet, Not Gonna

Tell Ya Who/What To Be; So Stay in the Dark if That
Is What Ya Do; So, Do Not Move Out of the Cave Now if

That is Where Ya Stay; So, Complain When Ya See Something

Ya've Never Seen Before; Heck, If You Want to Make a Penis and a Vagina

The End All and Beginning All of What Makes A Human Being A Man And or A Woman;

Female or Male; or Whatever Label Comes Next Ya Get Glued on And Just Cannot Escape...

By All Means Do/
Be Just That too...

So Ironic, the Pecking Order

Of What Makes the Human
Condition Larger

or

Smaller...

It's So Damned
'Politically Correct'
to Suggest that Life
is Limited to All the
'Tradition' (Labels) That Came Before...

Yet Oh, to Make New Connections From Head to toe;
To Explore More Than to Stay Back in Old Desert Lands;

Oh, to be Soaked With Love And Just Give and Share it ALL AWaY;
Caring and Healing Wherever Ya Go Next; Yes, THere is A Greater

World than
Just Labels

Before; Some

Come, Others Do Not...
So, Stay or Go; Everyone's
Propensity, Plus Choice of Course;

As It's true, Some Folks Have More Free Will
to Change And Go, and Others Just Simply Do Not.

Anyway, Ya Ain't Gonna Force Squares in Spiraling Artistic Shapes...
And Ya Sure As Hell Ain't Gonna Force Spiraling Artistic Shapes in Squares...

Jonathan Haidt Gives

A Pretty Good Overview of

Why Some Folks Get Stuck
on One Detail of Michelangelo's
'David' And Others Have A Pure Aesthetic

Appreciation for the Gestalt of the Entire
Art of the Humanity That Sees Life As More Than A Tiny Penis.

It's True, Some Folks Do Trees;

Some Folks Do Forests;

And Others of
Us Just Do

Both And

Another
'Forrest Gump'
Record Breaking
Life Moving Out of the
Boxes Before in Effortless Ease;

Yet You See, Environment Counts;
If There is Not a First Step Out of the Box, The Next Will Not Come...

Even Tiny Baby Steps Count to Evolve More in One Life And Adapt to Change;

I'll Tell ya Who

Is Brave; one Who
Is Not Afraid to Be
All of Who They Are Without Restraint...

A Life of No Fear; A Life of Loving it All;
So 'Politically Incorrect' For 'This Condition at Hand.'

Anyway, i've Said it Before, And i'll Dance/Sing it Again; THere
Are Anchors in Life and Sails; An Integrated Boat Has Both;

To Make it

More Concise

And Clear: Balance,
A Greatest Law of Existence...

Oh Yeah, And Balance is Never Ever Binary
Or The Rest of Frigging Nature From Every 'Direction'...

'Binary' Comes From An Over Reliance on Abstract Constructed
Symbols to Approximate Reality; Sadly, Getting Lost From the Rest
Of Non-Binary
Nature on

The Way

to 'Prison'

As Such; God Yes
Housed in Symbols...
NoW WHere Idols Gain
Prominence And 'Nature'
Yes, What i Call 'God' BeComes Lost...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw

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This whole idea of not labeling anything and that we shouldn't have labels is another idea that makes no sense.

You can't discuss something if you don't give it a name and characteristics (including the definition) to said thing.

How can anything be discussed if no labels are allowed?

And, if there are no labels then how can we get an objective truth(s) or any kind of truth at all?

I have to ask to the general audience what has happened to our world in which we shouldn't label anything, categorize anything and determine any sort of truth at all?

I disagree with this philosophy of no labels and no truth. Truth, reason and logic is one of the foundations to having a rational based civilization and without these things then how can we have a rational based civilization at all?

Yes categorising people is what we are conditioned to do from a young age. We put people into stereotypes and categories for convenience.

It takes a little bit of effort to be a little flexible or fluid with how rigid the boundaries are for our cognitive shortcuts.

Recognising there is no one-size fits all approach is the first step to overcome a fear of PC as some type of bogey we are led to believe will precipitate the fall of civilisation

Its not that "were conditioned to do it from a young age". Its that its impossible to speak, and to even to think at all, without labeling things. Impossible whether you're "conditioned", or not.

We're all conditioned from early age that various words have certain meanings.
That's called "aquiring language".

The problem arises that changes in language shapes perception. Orwell illustrated this in 1984 when an entire language was designed to eliminate any means by which anyone could criticize the Party. The idea was that by changing the language the Party could change people’s thoughts, hence how Winston became guilty of thought crimes.

We already do things like this. When a superior speaks to a subordinate, or a teacher to a student, we’re supposed to say, “Did we think about how our behavior might have affected this other person? How might we change our behavior for a more positive outcome?” The language is SUPPOSED to imply that everyone shares the burden of misbehavior and avoid confrontational language—which is a positive thing. But it also devalues the individual and subjugates one’s identity to the will of the collective.

I’ve made an effort to return to “I” and “you” to remind the other person he is an individual and important.

A slight (well quite large) nuance that is missed here is that the pigs in Orwell's story had a massive power differential over the other characters.

In contrast the power differential in those who are oppressed and seeking social justice is the reverse. A oppressed minority can't (and never has in the entire history of the world) changed the language (or perceptions) of the majority.

Those funding the anti-woke propaganda are very powerful
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/10/critica ... tions.html

I believe Cyberdad is referring to "Animal Farm," rather than "1984."

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It's Worth Noting (Particularly, if You Speak Arabic) That In Arabic There Are 300 Words to Describe A Camel;

Obviously, Camels Are A Big Part of Their Culture, And Even a Metaphor For Their Religions too;

True, 'Camels' From Middle Eastern Traditions Are Used in the Christian Religion As Well; Perhaps

A Most Memorable Verse of the Rich Man Finding The Kingdom of Heaven Within As Difficult As

A Camel
Passing
Through the
Eye of a Needle;

Yes, i Have Very
Rich Relatives; i've
Watched Their Struggles

Through Their Opaque Windows
of Not Being Able to 'See'/Feel/Sense my Heaven on Earth Within...

Yes, It's True Compared to Most Folks i Am Rich in Both Ways Now;
Yet, Fortunately For me i Gained access to Heaven Within By Being Both

Very Poor in Money
From the Get Go; And
Much Later Very Poor in Spirit too;
in Other Words, i Lost my Emotions
And Found a Way to Get Them Back
And Co-Create all Feelings and Senses of

Experience Great as Heaven Within Now; In Other Words an
Autotelic Meditative Flow of Heaven Within Almost Always New Now;

Yes, Eternal

Palace of
Heaven Within Now Always
Coloring the Christmas Tree
of me Put Up Year 'Round With New
Wonderful Colors to Feel and Sense

Now; Anyway, Back to The Reference of

'Buck Angel,' A Famous Transgender Dude
For Many Decades Now as Brought to All Our
Attentions Earlier in 'this Thread'; i Had no Clue
Who He was, So i Looked Up His Wiki Biography;

Interesting Indeed; And There is Not One Single Person
Here, Who Would Likely Identify Him as Anything Yet a
Very Masculine Older Man; If They Didn't Have A View to

The Fact the

Dude Has

A Vagina too;

Yet For Anyone Who took the Effort
to Research Him, They'd Find That He
is Much Criticized Amongst Some Folks in
Modern LGBQT Circles For Some of His Views As Quoted From Wiki Below:

"Angel has been publicly critical of several areas of LGBT policy advocacy, in particular relating to sex-based spaces and institutions.[37][38] His criticisms include the participation of trans women in female sports,[39][40] demands for access for trans women to female-only spaces,[41][42] and political use of the phrase 'trans women are women'.[43]"

Yet on the other Hand, Angel, is Also Considered A Hero Memorialized in Statues of Bronze to Folks of the
Transgender Community; In American Indian Cultures, A Third Gender Was Common For 'Two Spirit Folk';
In India And Germany, A Non-Binary Gender is Allowed too in the Realm of Government Supported Rules.

What's Important is People Make Transgender Folks Feel Like They are Valid Human Beings With Valid
Needs And Wants That Are Different And Similar to Other Folks; i Suppose That's What's Important

For Us All; And to Be Clear, Obviously As It Might Be From Participating in an Autism Community

That There are Many Different ways of Thinking too as that Applies to Senses, Feelings, Other
Perceptions in Visual Thinking, Pattern Thinking, Metaphor Thinking; And Of Course Verbal

Thinking In General
As Well That Allows
Us to Communicate
Somewhat in Mutual
And Consensual Ways of Understanding too...

However, Science Shows Non-Verbal Language
Still Comprises About 65 Percent of Inherent Human
Reciprocal Social Communication; And in the Case of the
Autism Spectrum, Studies Have Shown in Some cases that About
50 Percent of Higher Functioning Folks on the Spectrum Have

A Non-Verbal

Learning Disability as Well That May Be as Severe as Not
Being Able to Voluntarily Visually Think at All; What i mean
By Voluntarily is They May Still Have Involuntary Visual Dreams...

What i Have Noticed on this Website is Some Folks Can Understand
me Easy; And Other Folks Have Great Difficulty; Yet in my case, i Did Not
Speak until Age 4; Yet That Didn't Stop me From Having Open Arms and
A Smile for Every Stranger; And Finding the Keys my Mother Was looking for
in the Living Room of Our Trailer; as i Crawled Back to the Bedroom And Found them

Under
the Bed;

Obviously,

i Was Able to
Think Without Words...

And Perhaps Now i Write With
too many Metaphors; Yet This is
What Makes me Who i am; You've

Met One Person on Any Spectrum;

And You've Met Just one; We All See
The World Differently and That Colors Our Opinions

About Existence
And We Relate
Them Much Differently;

i'm not Surprised That Some
Folks 'Literally' Can't 'See' Nuance;

As i've lived on a 'Wrong Planet' Long
Enough to See that Reality too; Excellent
Opportunity for An Anthropology Observer Participant;

As That Is How it is When You Perceive the World differently than Most...

As 'Temple
Grandin' Related:

Life as An "Anthropologist From Mars;"

In my Case, Now, Life As Anthropologist From Heaven Within;

Indeed my Kind of Asperger's Syndrome on the Spectrum is Much

Different From

Elon Musk's

Longing For a Life on Mars...

In That 'God Forsaken Place' With No Life...
That May be Hard for a Person Who Lives
in Heaven on Earth Within to Understand; Yet So

Very Easy for
One Who Has
Lived in 'The Other Place(s)' too...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Angel

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